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should grenades be removed from railz server?

Yes. they are fucking annoying and should be rails only as the server name suggests
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No. I love tossing my balls annoying the fuck out of people
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I would stop using nades on railz if there was a server with nades only
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Re: Naders
« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2010, 10:08:01 AM »
http://nintendo8.com/game/486/mega_man/

experience the revolution focalor. you have no idea what you're missing out on
lol, someones mad that elecman is super gay

Electric bolt and the pause glitch are the only way that I can beat megaman 1
mm2 is great. Just go straight for metalman, if you can beat him you're OP with metalblade and can easily beat the game
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« Reply #166 on: July 26, 2010, 10:58:12 AM »
http://nintendo8.com/game/486/mega_man/

experience the revolution focalor. you have no idea what you're missing out on
lol, someones mad that elecman is super gay

Electric bolt and the pause glitch are the only way that I can beat megaman 1
mm2 is great. Just go straight for metalman, if you can beat him you're OP with metalblade and can easily beat the game

Am I the ONLY ONE who thought the quick boomerang was better?  :uhoh: :erhmmm: :uhoh: :erhmmm:
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« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2010, 11:03:48 AM »
Yes. Crash bomb was pretty dope, But metal blade > all
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« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2010, 11:28:20 AM »
Hand-grenades are what make Q2 special. No other game implements grenades as nicely as Q2!

Seriously, hand-grenades are my favorite weapon in the game!  Not the most powerful, but the one that yields the most comedy! (I just wish they did more damage!!)

Q2 without 'nades, is like a dog without balls.

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« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2010, 11:56:17 AM »
Hand-grenades are what make Q2 special. No other game implements grenades as nicely as Q2!

Seriously, hand-grenades are my favorite weapon in the game!  Not the most powerful, but the one that yields the most comedy! (I just wish they did more damage!!)

Q2 without 'nades, is like a dog without balls.

 :rocketleft:

agreed, except the damage part, the explosion gives a nice splash giving you the opportunity to damage/kill more then one player at the same time.
Also i'd HATE to be killed by a grenade while i have 100 health and just picked up a yellow armor  :WTF:
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Re: Naders
« Reply #170 on: July 26, 2010, 01:45:47 PM »
Hand-grenades are what make Q2 special. No other game implements grenades as nicely as Q2!

Seriously, hand-grenades are my favorite weapon in the game!  Not the most powerful, but the one that yields the most comedy! (I just wish they did more damage!!)

Q2 without 'nades, is like a dog without balls.

 :rocketleft:

actually, excluding bfg because its retarded ways of dealing damage... the hand grenade IS the strongest weapon :) 125 damage on a direct hit i believe, grenades from the launcher do 120, rockets do 100+ 0-20 random damage, and rail does 100

could be wrong, but i think thats all right
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« Reply #171 on: July 26, 2010, 03:52:30 PM »
Nades can take away 120. a rocket can take away 120. SSG can take away 120, if all 20 pellets to the shell connect (-6 HP each).

BFG can take away 200 HP technically but you're never in the practical scenario to absorb the entire blast radius.
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« Reply #172 on: July 26, 2010, 04:19:53 PM »
Nades take away 120. Rocket take away 120. SSG can take away 120, if all 20 pellets to the shell connect (-6 HP each).

BFG can take away 200 HP technically but you're never in the practical scenario to absorb the entire blast radius.

thought hand nades were 125 and nades from the GL were 120... also was pretty sure the rockets were 100 + (0-20 random damage) because quakeworld rockets work taht way and q2 rockets dont seem to deal a set amount either :/ guess i should look it up and see now lol

EDIT: http://www.quake2.com/q2wfaq/q2wfaq.html <--- thats where i read it
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« Reply #173 on: July 26, 2010, 04:23:51 PM »
rockets ARE 100-120. all i was saying is that 120 is the most damage you can deal, tied with 3 weapons, bfg is an exception. No site has it right, just open q2 twice and try it on yourself.
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« Reply #174 on: July 26, 2010, 04:31:30 PM »
rockets ARE 100-120. all i was saying is that 120 is the most damage you can deal, tied with 3 weapons, bfg is an exception. No site has it right, just open q2 twice and try it on yourself.

think hand nades deal some random damage too :/

just tried it twice on a local client, went from 100/200 on both players to 78/108 and 78/110 with a direct nade on both 114 and 112

second round of tests i just got 79/111 and 78/109 so with 110 and 113... i think nades are dealing random damage and it would take a ton of tests to find out what the max is...

ill just take your word for it that it maxes out at 120 seeing as that seems to be the theme with q2, and i can now say that site is wrong because it doesnt say anything about random damage :)
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« Reply #175 on: July 26, 2010, 08:52:33 PM »
Not to much is harder than Mike Tyson in punch out

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« Reply #176 on: July 27, 2010, 12:39:56 PM »
All right, I just looked at the source code, and this is the damage for all weapons:

Blaster  (30 dmg/sec)
Does 15 (10 in single player) energy damage. Fires 2 times every second.

Shotgun  (40 dmg/sec)
Shotgun shoots 12 pellets of 4 damage each for a maximum of 48 damage. Fires once every 1.2 seconds.

Super Shotgun  (100 dmg/sec)
Super shotgun shoots two shotgun blasts 5 quake units to either side of the center of your gun. (This is about equivalent to the height of one of those shallow stairs in the arena of q2rdm2.) Each blast contains 10 pellets which do 6 damage each for a grand total of 120 damage. Fires once every 1.2 seconds.

Machinegun  (80 dmg/sec)
Shoots 8 damage bullets at the rate of about 10 every second.

Chaingun  (80->160->240 dmg/sec)
Fires 6 (8 in single player) damage bullets in bursts. Each burst fires from 1 to 3 bullets, depending upon the amount the chaingun has been wound up. From frames 1 to 9, it fires 1 bullet/burst. From frames 10 to 14 it fires 2 bullets/burst. From frame 15 onward, it fires 3 bullets/burst. These bursts are fired at the rate of 10 every second.

Grenades  (variable dmg/sec)
Fires 125 damage grenades. These grenades have a 165 unit splash radius. Rate of fire is variable.

Grenade Launcher  (120 dmg/sec)
Fires 120 damage grenades. These grenades have a 160 unit splash radius. Fires at a rate of 1 every second.

Rocket Launcher  (~137 dmg/sec)
Fires 100 to 120 (random) damage rockets. These rockets have a 120 unit splash radius. Rockets are fired at the rate of around 1.25 per second

Hyperblaster  (150 dmg/sec)
Does 15 (20 in single player) energy damage per bolt. Bolts are fired at the rate of 10 per second.

Railgun  (67 dmg/sec)
Does 100 (150 in single player) damage. Fires once every 1.5 seconds.



So the order in terms of damage/second is:

Chaingun (fully wound up)
Chaingun (2/3 wound up)
Hyperblaster
Rocket Launcher
Grenade Launcher
Super Shotgun
Chaingun (1/3 wound up) & Machinegun
Railgun
Shotgun
Blaster
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« Reply #177 on: July 27, 2010, 12:46:10 PM »
All right, I just looked at the source code, and this is the damage for all weapons:

Blaster  (30 dmg/sec)
Does 15 (10 in single player) energy damage. Fires 2 times every second.

Shotgun  (40 dmg/sec)
Shotgun shoots 12 pellets of 4 damage each for a maximum of 48 damage. Fires once every 1.2 seconds.

Super Shotgun  (100 dmg/sec)
Super shotgun shoots two shotgun blasts 5 quake units to either side of the center of your gun. (This is about equivalent to the height of one of those shallow stairs in the arena of q2rdm2.) Each blast contains 10 pellets which do 6 damage each for a grand total of 120 damage. Fires once every 1.2 seconds.

Machinegun  (80 dmg/sec)
Shoots 8 damage bullets at the rate of about 10 every second.

Chaingun  (80->160->240 dmg/sec)
Fires 6 (8 in single player) damage bullets in bursts. Each burst fires from 1 to 3 bullets, depending upon the amount the chaingun has been wound up. From frames 1 to 9, it fires 1 bullet/burst. From frames 10 to 14 it fires 2 bullets/burst. From frame 15 onward, it fires 3 bullets/burst. These bursts are fired at the rate of 10 every second.

Grenades  (variable dmg/sec)
Fires 125 damage grenades. These grenades have a 165 unit splash radius. Rate of fire is variable.

Grenade Launcher  (120 dmg/sec)
Fires 120 damage grenades. These grenades have a 160 unit splash radius. Fires at a rate of 1 every second.

Rocket Launcher  (~137 dmg/sec)
Fires 100 to 120 (random) damage rockets. These rockets have a 120 unit splash radius. Rockets are fired at the rate of around 1.25 per second

Hyperblaster  (150 dmg/sec)
Does 15 (20 in single player) energy damage per bolt. Bolts are fired at the rate of 10 per second.

Railgun  (67 dmg/sec)
Does 100 (150 in single player) damage. Fires once every 1.5 seconds.



So the order in terms of damage/second is:

Chaingun (fully wound up)
Chaingun (2/3 wound up)
Hyperblaster
Rocket Launcher
Grenade Launcher
Super Shotgun
Chaingun (1/3 wound up) & Machinegun
Railgun
Shotgun
Blaster

You forgot the BFG  :ohreally:
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« Reply #178 on: July 27, 2010, 01:05:43 PM »
I left it out on purpose--it is a n00b gun.
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« Reply #179 on: July 27, 2010, 01:09:06 PM »
I dont think BFG is only for noobs. If you use BFG SOMETIMES its completely OK  :rocketright:

However, if its the ONLY weapon you use, and its your ONLY strategy second to camping, then we're going to have some problems  >:(
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