Wallhacker?

[CodeBlack]

Unfortunately i was the only one playing him :/ so i couldnt spec him to get a demo from his pov...

But there was this guy on railz by the name Tomek who was pinging about 300, said he was a top player from australia...

The funny thing about his shots... every time id come around a corner, or try to lay an ambush and he would come around a corner, i would instantly die, no delay for high ping, no delay for reaction time... which is a little understandable for a top player but still pretty fucked up and suspicious if it happens EVERY SINGLE TIME... So i figured if hes just good, hes listening to sounds pretty well... Then i decided to play some sound tricks, going completely silent, giving false sounds, doing double backs, trying to really out smart him... There was even a couple times i took HUGE round about paths completely silent so i could really throw off where he thought i was, didnt work at all...

I continued to be nailed at every point in time a wall hacker would have the advantage... There was one point where i was in the middle of a big room, and he flew in and nailed me dead on, i could have been standing 50 different places but he managed to hit me dead on AS SOON AS HE ENTERED, on 30 ping alright that sounds reasonable, 60 ping, sure, 300 ping? no...

After that i decided to do aclist, of course he wasnt running anticheat... his aim out in the open was nothing like the prediction shots he was landing... It really looks to me like this guy named Tomek was walling, and if anyone sees him around owning on railz or something, get a demo...

And before anyone bitches about me just being pissed that i was getting owned >_> i wasnt getting owned i still won, but the way he was playing is nearly impossible on 300 ping, and some of the stuff he did was far to suspicious given that i was being careful about what sound cues i gave him for his prediction

If he isnt walling... ill admit, the kids good, but i highly doubt it

Come, admit 
Was just spectating in vanilla, nothing out of the ordinary..
Seriously, you dont see the delay this guy has?
Lmfao
 

[Whirlingdervish]

As I was reading IR'Devs description on the lack of knowledge I have about the sounds in quake2 and how its "impossible" to pull off shots that I did with my ping makes it even more amusing. It just shows how ignorant you are. All the demo's posted on the forums don't prove anything at all, just a bunch of scrubs complaining about a HPB owning them.

I wouldn't call it owning when it's an HPB who can't tell there is a ticking nade on his foot (watch the demos jman made) but who can hear your footsteps through a wall good enough to make prediction shots with a 300 ping, EVERY TIME. You didn't hear elementary sound cues, and you were moving pretty horribly, and yet you were making a lot of blind shots with rg, and unable to hit dick with a BFG.

I've played with high ping many times and it's not some magical excuse for weird looking shots.
For anyone on that ping, those corner shots were blind. You'd never see the opponents before you shot, and that doesn't take into account the delay between when you clicked and when the shot was fired from the server ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD.

If you think that doesn't look suspicious, well darn. I don't care. I do think so.


As for your excuses about EGL w/ AC:

1. Complaining about high latency with a 200+ ping is like bitching about stepping in a puddle in a downpour.

2. EGL doesn't use R1GL. It wouldn't tell you to use R1GL. It comes with its own custom renderer (thus the gore and smoke and nifty FX) and the vid_ref cvar is protected in EGL to make sure you don't change it to something stupid.

3. EGL is also one of the least smooth clients to use, it's the least supported and it has fucked up mouse accel unless you jump through hoops to fix it.

[VaeVictis]

on the subject of anticheat not working with egl, it should, without any problems even

if it is telling you to run a renderer such as r1gl, that means it does not like the renderer you are currently using and anticheat is programmed to work with egl's default renderer

that leaves the possibility that you are not using the default egl renderer through replacing a dll or something of that sort... more than likely a wall hack the way i see it

[Arm0r]

  give the guy a break, noone has any evidence he hacks so why assume it?

[VaeVictis]

give the guy a break, noone has any evidence he hacks so why assume it?

because its looking more and more like he uses a wall hack

[Arm0r]

give the guy a break, noone has any evidence he hacks so why assume it?

because its looking more and more like he uses a wall hack

opinions mean little in this area when it comes to juding hacks, giving someone the stigma of being a hacker is basically putting a target on their forehead for everyone to fuck with em...I need solid proof or as far as im concerned he didn't cheat..no matter how much someone claims there to be one they can't prove it on speculation alone...if a trained eye was all that was needed to spot these things R1ch would be alot less busy.

[Barton]

we were just playing at vanilla and tomek suddenly got dropped. I wanna tell him that he had been forced to use anticheat but i was kinda busy camping.

I attached a condump coz devious also noticed something..

http://yahoo.tastyspleen.net/tomek2.txt

He seems to be playing on vanilla with no problems getting kicked now.

[DEMOn]

I completely agree with Armor. 
Perhaps there is proof of suspicious anything on the admin boards, but there's nothing been posted publicly that even hints at a bot/wallhack.
Plenty of players who can do well with his ping.

[[BTF] Reflex]

I didn't watch him, but played a few games on vanilla since he has had AC forced.
Forgot to do aclist,  but just assumed.

He's still a crack shot with rail     

You know that feeling in a fight where you get pegged with a rail, 
and just know if you don't get out of sight in the next second the next one is gonna hit you.

I get that with him.  Just can't dance him like you would someone with a 260 ping.


Fun games,  I had a ton of good awareness/wallhacky shots myself


Verdict is still out I guess.

[The Happy Friar]

in my experience, getting pwned by a railer most likely means you suck.    If I claimed "hax!" every time a single person slaughtered me with a rail I'd be labeling everybody!

[Barton]

I completely agree with Armor. 
Perhaps there is proof of suspicious anything on the admin boards, but there's nothing been posted publicly that even hints at a bot/wallhack.
Plenty of players who can do well with his ping.

in my experience, getting pwned by a railer most likely means you suck.    If I claimed "hax!" every time a single person slaughtered me with a rail I'd be labeling everybody!

There are. The difference between them and his guy is that they don't land tough or prediction shots frequently. You just can't do it with his ping, where in corridors you get shot by players who aren't there anymore.

I know the skill level on vanilla is low, and players there are easy to hit due to their movement skills being basic, but still it's kind of insane how accurate this guy's grenades are. Most of the time he doesn't even cook the grenade so it explodes in someone's face. He just goes for the direct hit and gets it.

Well he seems to playing fine with forced AC, so maybe I'm just dead wrong.

[Arm0r]

If he is still the same calibur of player with AC then I believe it's pretty safe to say he's clean.

[Barton]

If he is still the same calibur of player with AC then I believe it's pretty safe to say he's clean.

He is playing the same way.

[VaeVictis]

i heard hes playing a lot worse might still be doing decent because hes playing ffa which anyone can make a decent prediction on and be right... but ill see when i play him on an insta server

[Whirlingdervish]

pretty sure I saw him on the scoreboard for vanilla earlier today with a FPH in the 100s instead of the 300s he was getting before...

could just be the giant sp maps making it harder to find things to kill, but the average players on vanilla are definitely not better than the ones on dm.