players using my name

[eumesmo]

I know some players don't like me and I don't care about that, but some of them started playing with my name.
I don't care about that either, but now I think they started saying some shit to other players.

The #1 asshole doing that is foxy.
I really don't care about that. Is even funny, but I don't wanna get in "trouble" because of the shit he's been saying.

Here's an example of that. I'm the 155 pinger (yes, I'm using Spawn Girl's skin).



I'm being kicked, muted and humiliated  on xrazy too. Should I talk about this here?

[[BTF]Defiant!]

Any decent admin would know you from those aliasing as you.

I don't know the who/what/why for the "abuse" on the xrazy server, so no comment there.

[console]

Here's an example of that. I'm the 155 pinger (yes, I'm using Spawn Girl's skin).

According to the database, you initially spoofed SpawnGirl's name 12 days ago:

  [XZ]SpawnGirl|vanilla|189.26.221.233|189.26.221.233.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br|12 days ago

And then you spoofed SpawnGirl and foxy within the past 24 hours:
  
  |          foxy|xrazy|187.59.177.36|187.59.177.36.static.host.gvt.net.br|24 hours ago
  |[XZ]Spawn Girl|xrazy|187.59.177.36|187.59.177.36.static.host.gvt.net.br|18 hours ago

So if you are going to complain about others using your name, you probably shouldn't use theirs.


Further, although players are allowed to use whatever (legit) skin they want, my understanding is that it was you who started this latest ruckus by using spawngirl's skin, presumably for the sole purpose of being annoying.

So, while nobody (including you) should be spoofing other player's names, it seems that you are instigating as much trouble as anyone.

I'm being kicked, muted and humiliated  on xrazy too. Should I talk about this here?

I'd like to see condumps showing these kicks and mutes.  I searched the xrazy logs, and the only kick for the entire month of November that I could find was on an ISP from Spain.


Regards,

[[BTF]Sigma]

Wow what kind of reality do you live in kid?

[eumesmo]

i was going to treat these things separately, but its OK.

I didn's start it. The server was full in this first day. I think all those players can say what happened. She put my name first and started saying some shit with my name. Only then I started using her name, but everybody knew it was me and that it was a joke.

If you didnt find anyone using my name before that, try looking for "eufagsmo", as an example. Thats foxy.

When I put foxy's name, he was using mine.

As for Spawns name, there were 3 or 4 people using my name. I know she doesn't like me, but I think shes the admin of that server and that she should not allow that.
My idea was something like: when she complains about her name, Im gonna ask her why shes not doing anything when they use mine.

About the skin: some people like to chase me on game. Its funny, but sometimes I put the same skin as other player in game just to confuse them. Ive used cow, garfield, scorpion, bruce lee, athena, teletubbie...
When I first played on xrazy, spawn didnt want me there, so she told all players to team up and kill me. That was before I use her skin. So I did the same I do everytime this happens: put someone elses skin to confuse them. It was because of the way she talked to me that I continued using her skin.

I was talking about the kicking with another player and he explained it to me. Probably a coincidence. OK to me.

I hate giant posts, so the rest will come in the next one...

[eumesmo]

if you check the server right now, youll see that its in a huge map with no timelimit, cause she doesnt want me to play.

[eumesmo]

can't find the condump when I was muted 
ill take a better look tomorrow
I was playing and foxy (EE), spawn and her friends were talking about me for about 15 minutes. They were making fun of me and I was having fun too. I even answered some of their jokes about me.
But then someone came with the idea of muting me. I said something like "wtf? Youre talking about me for 15 minutes and Im not saying anything. Whats the point?"
I even said it would make no difference, cause I wasnt talking
No response and I recieved a message from WallFly telling me that I was muted.

Is there a spoiler tag or something like that in here?

Thats today:

[XZ]Spawn Girl: ileave because eumesmo is connected day and night for 5 days now
[XZ]Spawn Girl: using my  skin
EXTERMINADER ate Grifter's rocket
[XZ]Spawn Girl: just for bother me
Grifter ate eumesmo's rocket
[XZ]Spawn Girl: is a brazilian shemale
Key Uu Hakk was machinegunned by [XZ]Jasiu
[XZ]Spawn Girl: sick
[XZ]Jasiu ate eumesmo's rocket
[XZ]Spawn Girl: asshole
EXTERMINADER: You're an admin...kick him
eumesmo ate Grifter's rocket
EXTERMINADER caught in trap by hitme
Key Uu Hakk was railed by Grifter
eumesmo: im playing for about 30 minutes
Grifter was evaporated by hitme
eumesmo: and youre bothering me
[XZ]Spawn Girl: i have all the logs lier
[XZ]Spawn Girl: fag
Grifter was railed by Key Uu Hakk
Key Uu Hakk almost dodged Grifter's rocket
[XZ]Spawn Girl: connected day and night
[XZ]Jasiu almost dodged Grifter's rocket
[XZ]Spawn Girl: asshole lier
eumesmo: i havent said a word to you
eumesmo was railed by Grifter
[XZ]Spawn Girl: fuck you
[XZ]Spawn Girl: son of bitch
eumesmo: and im goig to ignore you now
Grifter was evaporated by [XZ]Jasiu
eumesmo: bye
EXTERMINADER: I think it's your choice of skin that bugs her...
[XZ]Spawn Girl: lol
[XZ]Spawn Girl: fag
[XZ]Jasiu almost dodged Grifter's rocket
]ignore [XZ]Spawn Girl
[XZ]Spawn Girl added to ignore list.


You can check the logs. Youll see I was just playing and ignoring her insults.
I know I'm kinda wrong about the skin, but thats no reason for an admin to act like that. No one can play on xrazy now because she keeps changing the maps everytime I take the lead.
You can say anything you want, ban me.. do whatever you like. But I pretty sure I'm not the only one making mistakes in this case.


Don't take it too serious. I dont wanna close that server (someone told me it could happen), fight with other players or anything like that. Its just that she talks like if she owns everything and I hate that.
This post is probably confusing and missing some information, but I have to go now. Ill fix it tomorrow...

[console]

can't find the condump when I was muted 
ill take a better look tomorrow
I was playing and foxy (EE), spawn and her friends were talking about me for about 15 minutes. They were making fun of me and I was having fun too. I even answered some of their jokes about me.
But then someone came with the idea of muting me. I said something like "wtf? Youre talking about me for 15 minutes and Im not saying anything. Whats the point?"
I even said it would make no difference, cause I wasnt talking
No response and I recieved a message from WallFly telling me that I was muted.

Uh.  I can't  find evidence of a single mute on xrazy in the month of November.

Further, spawngirl doesn't have the means to mute someone.

The last mute on xrazy was a 60-second auto-mute in October:

  [2009-10-13 Tue 14:50:35] wallfly: rcon sv !mute CL 2 60
  [2009-10-13 Tue 14:50:35] Psyco has been muted for 60 seconds.

Further, the only mutes on xrazy in the past 9 months were all similar 60-second auto-mutes by wallfly.

So, it's pretty strange.  I don't find any evidence in the logs that indicates you were muted.  (And, as stated above, spawngirl doesn't have the ability to mute players anyway.)


I do find a situation a few days ago where you were named "queersmo" and people were trying to figure out how to ignore you, so an admin (via wallfly) offered to help everyone "ignore queersmo".

[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:28] 3=queersmo: spawn
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:36] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: soo sad
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:44] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: a man without proud
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:46] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: pathetic
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:47] 3=queersmo: i added you as my buddy in ASE
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:50] 3=Mr.Ping[DUT]: lol
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:50] 3=sheep!: its easy
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:55] 3=sheep!: type ignore queersmo
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:57] 3=sheep!: and ur done
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:11] 3=WallFly[BZZZ]: should i do it for you?
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:13] 3=queersmo: now it tells me everytime youre online
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:26] 3=sheep!: that wud be great
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:27] 3=sheep!: wallfly
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:31] 3=X7[Q2C]:
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:33] 3=WallFly[BZZZ]: YO! naughty d0g INVITES YOU TO GOTO KILLERPINGS - WOD-X !
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:38] 3=sheep!: set that shit up wallfly
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:38] 3=sheep!: xD
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:47] 3=sheep!: i so hope thats quadz
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] 3=queersmo: so easy to ignore
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] admin: !all ignore queersmo
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] 3=Mr.Ping[DUT]: ignore queersmo
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] 3=bosco: ignore queersmo
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:52] 3=WallFly[BZZZ]: ignore queersmo
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:09] 3=bosco: is queersmo gay? should we ignore him
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:43] 3=sheep!: its so nice and quiet
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:44] 3=Mr.Ping[DUT]: aw
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:46] 3=sheep!: hows that possible?
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:47] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: ignored
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:49] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: lol
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:53] 3=sheep!: mwuhahahahhaa
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:56] 3=bosco: really no more queersmo?
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:51:06] 3=eumesmo: ...
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:51:09] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: lol

Anyway . . .

[XZ]Spawn Girl: ileave because eumesmo is connected day and night for 5 days now
[XZ]Spawn Girl: using my  skin
EXTERMINADER ate Grifter's rocket
[XZ]Spawn Girl: just for bother me

An obvious point here would be that she should not allow herself to be "bothered" by such trivia.

You can check the logs. Youll see I was just playing and ignoring her insults.

And why in that earlier situation above did an admin have to step in to help several people on the server ignore you?  The eumesmo doth protest too much, methinks.

I know I'm kinda wrong about the skin, but thats no reason for an admin to act like that. No one can play on xrazy now because she keeps changing the maps everytime I take the lead.

It's true that any tastyspleen admin who behaved that way would lose their admin access pronto.

Note, however, xrazy is an INDEPENDENT ZONE server.  Anyone can get an INDEPENDENT ZONE server by renting a port from us, and they can admin it according to their own rules.  In the case of xrazy, I set up the server port for spawngirl, waiving the rental fees based on the sheer amount of effort she has put into creating content for the xatrix mod.  She has scoured the web for interesting Q2 maps and has made some 90 or so map conversions for xatrix.  Anyone who puts that kind of effort into expanding the Q2 universe, gets their own server as far as I'm concerned.

That aside, I think it's quite childish of her to degrade the playability of the server because she is "bothered" by your antics.


Regards,

[peewee_RotA]

Uh.  I can't  find evidence of a single mute on xrazy in the month of November.

Doesn't quake 2 come with built in flood protection? Does that show up in the wallfly logs? I could understand if this was just a confusion of the built in flood protection as opposed to the custom wallfly "mute-by-user via the q2admin add-on" dealio.


As for changing names to screw around, I don't see the big deal. As long as it is in FFA and there are no scores at stake it is usually in good fun. Yes, people could take it too far, but you play a game about killing people with violent weapons. School-yard style pranks shouldn't be an issue. It's not much different than when I change my name to "Vlad the Impala" to tease the player named suzuki or "Maternity Ward" when I'm competing with triage for a top spot in vanilla. Just stupid pranks.

[|iR|Focalor]

Most of the regulars on xrazy are total twats. They team by skin to be shitheads. Then when you change skins to throw a wrench in their cogs, they get all butthurt. I was on there a few weeks back using the name Tom Araya. They were trying like hell to annoy the shit out of me by constantly saying, "Hi Tom!". At one point I just did the handy dandy /ignore r1q2 feature. Then another time I just decided to be a little shit too and started spamming the server with "Hi Andy!" every 1.5 seconds until they finally got sick and tired of being douchebags and they shut the hell up. Maybe if enough of us shovel it back and act like total douchebags then either we can successfully run everyone out of the server or all get banned and then there won't be anyone playing there at all. It's become worse there than fucking vanilla. I don't have to do anything but start playing there and inevitably some stupid dicksucking shit pusher has something to say to me. So fuck you all. I'm glad I annoy you. It makes me fucking smile to know it, whores.

In other news...

What is this foxy motherfuckers problem recently? In the past, he responded to shit talking slung his way by just being sarcastic and jocular. Now apparently he's instigating shit with people all over the place and spreading lies that Analgasses was kicked out of KEA for cheating. I checked the KEA forums and someone named foxy had apparently joined them a few months ago. Now that particular thread is the ONLY ONE locked, which leads me to believe that maybe they were handed a pink slip and told not to let the door hit them in the asshole on the way out.

[{TNP}Dukie]

I'm not gonna read all of this.  Ive only seen Eumesmo on vanilla, he wins alot, but he is not the best ive seen, but he does win alot. Never seen him on any xatrix server. Seems to be a average to good server cleaner.

The whole XRAZY server phemomenon has killed xatrix for me.  I hate maps that are not made in the whole Q2 vein.  I hate maps that are like current modern cities or giant kitchens or subways.

We used to have a pretty good little Xatrix community here, but not no more.  I don't blame Spawngirl's intent, because I think it ws genuine, but i dont and I wont play xrazy because it aint xatrix and its killed the community for me.

[|iR|Focalor]

Yeah, and that should make something *wink wink* perfectly obvious to people. It's pretty retarded when so many folks are willing to praise her like hell for all her "work", yet none of those dumb bastards are willing to show up and play and appreciate that "work",... so they either have no clue how fucking retarded it really is, or they DO have a clue and that's why they never connect.

I'm mainly a fan of regular old FFA vanilla deathmatch. That's because the vanilla maps are usually pretty crowded, mostly linear in layout, and usually don't allow one person or a few people to camp in a position with lots of health, armor, and ammo to prolong their douchebaggery. Even in xatrix, a lot of the regulars had an annoying habit of camping rather than roaming around and seeking fights. But at least there was a sensible placement and inclusion of ammo and items. In the xrazy overrides, in my opinion, all of the maps always included power armor, quad/dual-fire, 2 or 3 red armors (or too much armor in general), way too many traps, one or multiple adrenalines, an invulnerability, one or several megahealths... it's just ridiculous. You don't have to have EVERY item from the game on a map. Sometimes it's best to exclude certain weapons and items in order to... aw fuck it, that dumb bitch knows what she does and does it on purpose.

[[BTF]Sigma]

Yeah the overrides turned me away too. There was no more balance to the game. I miss the old style where when you were killed you stopped moving. Not tipping over slowly or being tripped up by ripper blades.

[quadz]

The whole XRAZY server phemomenon has killed xatrix for me.  I hate maps that are not made in the whole Q2 vein.  I hate maps that are like current modern cities or giant kitchens or subways.

While I'm not overly fond of the giant kitchen maps, myself, I've really had a blast on some of the city maps like bwcity2, etc.

But anyway...

We used to have a pretty good little Xatrix community here, but not no more.  I don't blame Spawngirl's intent, because I think it ws genuine, but i dont and I wont play xrazy because it aint xatrix and its killed the community for me.

Early on, there was only the one xatrix server, so spawngirl's overrides found a home there along with everyone else's overrides.  But for something like six months now, all of spawngirl's overrides exist only on xrazy, not on the xatrix server.

So if there are overrides that still exist on xatrix that you don't like (large kitchen map, for example) they are presumably EXTERMINADER's overrides.

To reiterate - if you are seeing overrides on the xatrix server that you don't like, they are not spawngirl overrides.  (Unless I overlooked a few, in which case, let me know.)


Regards,

quadz

[peewee_RotA]

On a related note, I did see esumo (speling?) wearing the spawny skin yesterday and assumed it was spawn girl pretending to be him  . Im pretty sure that the real eumesmo has a lower ping and I figured out from that that it was the real guy. I'm not sure why he wore that skin, but I've been seeing quite a few XZ members lately so I didn't start any stupid jokes like usual. Interesting to see the thread after having seen the skin.


I guess this has drifted into a conversation about Xrazy? I'm a good candidate for Focolar's description of liking the overrides but rarely playing on the server. But don't forget that we got the most players when we use XRAZY as a splatterfest event. I honestly hope we get the same turn out for BANG. Anyway, in my opinion based on the high user turnouts for splatterfest then it is enough to support liking the overrides.

I'm sad to see a split in the xatrix community. XATRIX used to be a pretty active server and it seems to have changed. XRAZY is a completely different experience from XATRIX and I honestly preferred the XATRIX experience for the casual game. XRAZY is fun with a big group of players, but XATRIX was like Vanilla for the xatrix expansion. Casual games with players of varying skills... and cows!