Why stay sober when you're me?

[metaL]

Also, similar to what Focalor said... If you have plans that involve children you might wish you had a few extra years left in you down the road.

[QwazyWabbit]

Point is.

Sober or not I would still succeed because I'm able to handle and use to my advantage what drags others down into the gutter. People like QwazyWabbit are certain that anyone who drinks or does drugs will never succeed. I post this to inform people like himself, that isn't true. DARE really did a number on his neglected mind.

DARE? WTF is DARE? I never participated in any DARE programs and I don't have kids. I am twice your age and I did my partying a long time ago and I don't need it now and never did. I have seen my peers do what you are doing and many are burned out shells now. So you think you can control it now, keep doing it at the rate you claim to be doing it and you will be spent and burned out in a few years. Enjoy.

[|iR|Focalor]

I began to start preaching about certain people I used to know who were some of the most strong-willed, driven, and successful people you'd ever meet who are now dead. But then I realized it would be a waste of time to try to tell those stories to someone who is obviously wiser than anyone else.

Instead, check back in with us in another 10 years if you're still alive and tell us all how great your life is. Tell us that you have no regrets. Tell us that you feel just fine. Tell us that you're one person in the world who can drink themselves silly for a prolonged period of time and still leave this world with your story having nothing but a happy ending. Because every other junkie and alcoholic on the planet has tried to do that, and all of them failed. They could use the encouragement of hearing that at least ONE player in the game has found out how to walk away as a winner.

[elppen]

I began to start preaching about certain people I used to know who were some of the most strong-willed, driven, and successful people you'd ever meet who are now dead. But then I realized it would be a waste of time to try to tell those stories to someone who is obviously wiser than anyone else.

Instead, check back in with us in another 10 years if you're still alive and tell us all how great your life is. Tell us that you have no regrets. Tell us that you feel just fine. Tell us that you're one person in the world who can drink themselves silly for a prolonged period of time and still leave this world with your story having nothing but a happy ending. Because every other junkie and alcoholic on the planet has tried to do that, and all of them failed. They could use the encouragement of hearing that at least ONE player in the game has found out how to walk away as a winner.

   

[jägermonsta]

 

I began to start preaching about certain people I used to know who were some of the most strong-willed, driven, and successful people you'd ever meet who are now dead. But then I realized it would be a waste of time to try to tell those stories to someone who is obviously wiser than anyone else.

Instead, check back in with us in another 10 years if you're still alive and tell us all how great your life is. Tell us that you have no regrets. Tell us that you feel just fine. Tell us that you're one person in the world who can drink themselves silly for a prolonged period of time and still leave this world with your story having nothing but a happy ending. Because every other junkie and alcoholic on the planet has tried to do that, and all of them failed. They could use the encouragement of hearing that at least ONE player in the game has found out how to walk away as a winner.

Thanks for the speech bud.

Multiple times I mentioned I understand the health repercussions of my actions. This thread was in regards of being able to mentally hold together through it all and still come out on top. Disproving the theory that people who drink and smoke weed will amount to nothing. I've disproved this theory so far and will continue to do so through the rest of my alleged short life. I can handle it, others can't.

I love this 'check back with us in 10 years', Christ I've already been living the way I do for the last 10 years. 

DARE? WTF is DARE? I never participated in any DARE programs and I don't have kids. I am twice your age and I did my partying a long time ago and I don't need it now and never did. I have seen my peers do what you are doing and many are burned out shells now. So you think you can control it now, keep doing it at the rate you claim to be doing it and you will be spent and burned out in a few years. Enjoy.

I'm better than your weak peers. I understand how not to get burned out. I understand moderation. I understand how to act right. Continue on with your mundane life, thanks.

[jägermonsta]

Perhaps we should get a handle on exactly what I do. As you people seem to think I'm shooting up heroin hourly throughout the day.

I'll drink a few beers or have a few mixed drinks throughout the weekdays. Sometimes I have 3 or 4 beers in a night, the next day I won't have anything. When I drink I'll have a couple Marlboro full flavors. I only smoke when I drink, I never smoke at work, I don't smoke at home or when I'm out, when I'm not drinking. On the weekends if I go out with friends or they stop by I'll put down a lot of booze. If drinking beer I'll certainly have 12-16+, with liquor I tend to drink more, perhaps a half handle or so throughout the night. Bar tabs for myself tend to be around $80 if we go out some where. I'll also smoke about a pack of 72's throughout the night.

As for pot, I don't smoke as much as one thinks. I understand tolerance and I keep my tolerance to that stuff real low. There is no point in having a tolerance to pot... I can pick up a 8th and keep it in the freezer. That 8th will last me over 2 months. I normally pack a 1 hitter and have 3 or so hits and I'm good for the night. I do that when I feel like it, which isn't as often as you would think. In a week I'll smoke it maybe 3 times.

As for other shit, like shrooms (my choice) I'll do when I think it's time. I treat each time as an event. You can't fully understand these things unless you try them so I won't even try to explain it. I'd say once maybe twice a year I'll dabble in them. Stimulants, I rarely touch ever. If it's around me, and offered, I'll go for it. But that's hardly ever, so maybe twice a year.

I wouldn't say I'm a junkie, most everything is moderate use, besides my choice to drink as much as I do and can. But you know what, I get by and not only get by, I succeed. I stop when I want. I do them when I want, there is no addiction. I'm in decent health according to my doctors, and I'm a happy person. Not many happy people out there is there... I feel bad for those people sometimes, but in the end I've learned, It's all about me.

[metaL]

Jager I can relate.  However lol, I made the mistake of developing a tolerance to green.  At one point I was going through a quarter of dank every 5-7 days (I happened to have some extra cash at the time - it went quick).  I think I smoked once this month (August lol) but I'm going to see if I can stay off it for a while (breaking a 2 year streak).  I'm trying to get back into good physical shape again anyway, and I'm sure by the end of the month I'll feel a lot better and have a much clearer mind.  I drink throughout the week, on and off.  I just had a beer about an hour ago after working out in the yard all day lol, I love beer.  On weekends I'll have 6-12 (used to be much more like yourself) if I have company, but nowadays I try to drink on an empty stomach so I'll be feeling fine after a 6 pack or less.  I tried shrooms for the first time about a month ago, and loved it.  However I don't really have the urge to do it again.  I was just too curious after seeing a few of my peers enjoy it several times.  I've tried almost every pill under the sun pharmaceutical-wise (opiates/benzodiazepines), but haven't in years (never prolonged use).  I've also never tried any hardcore non-pharmaceutical drugs (cocaine, heroine, acid, meth, X, etc) and do not ever plan to start.

It's usually unlike me to spill such info but whatever lol, I honestly feel that I have no true addictions.  For the most part, I have no regrets.  Nothing seriously bad has ever happened from my occasional drug/alcohol use.  I feel just as intelligent after all the smoking, despite having a slightly slower reaction time (and I'm almost back to normal after cutting back big time the past 3 weeks).  Even when I'm wasted drunk I usually just turn into a big goof ball, never a violent drunk.  Anyway I'll keep you guys updated on my goal to stay clean this month (minus some beer).

I don't have it in me to talk about my accomplishments but I'll just say I've done well.

[reaper]

So you are using things in "moderation".  And at the moment it's working for you, at least with your stated goals.  Substance use certainly has negative effects, but if you're happy,  good for you.

You're walking a very fine line though, and you only have one liver, which you probably won't find a replacement for.   Anyone could certainly see your current use taking its toll.  That's not exactly the most moderate use of substances.  There's plenty of functional alcoholics.  Your current use makes you an alcoholic, even though it might not get in the way of work, or you may not be using alcohol as a coping mechanism.  The amount of alcohol you are consuming is a risk to your well being.

Anyways, I hope everything works out for you.  But your initial post doesn't make a lot of sense.

[|iR|Focalor]

Perhaps we should get a handle on exactly what I do. As you people seem to think I'm shooting up heroin hourly throughout the day.

I'll drink a few beers or have a few mixed drinks throughout the weekdays. Sometimes I have 3 or 4 beers in a night, the next day I won't have anything. When I drink I'll have a couple Marlboro full flavors. I only smoke when I drink, I never smoke at work, I don't smoke at home or when I'm out, when I'm not drinking. On the weekends if I go out with friends or they stop by I'll put down a lot of booze. If drinking beer I'll certainly have 12-16+, with liquor I tend to drink more, perhaps a half handle or so throughout the night. Bar tabs for myself tend to be around $80 if we go out some where. I'll also smoke about a pack of 72's throughout the night.

As for pot, I don't smoke as much as one thinks. I understand tolerance and I keep my tolerance to that stuff real low. There is no point in having a tolerance to pot... I can pick up a 8th and keep it in the freezer. That 8th will last me over 2 months. I normally pack a 1 hitter and have 3 or so hits and I'm good for the night. I do that when I feel like it, which isn't as often as you would think. In a week I'll smoke it maybe 3 times.

As for other shit, like shrooms (my choice) I'll do when I think it's time. I treat each time as an event. You can't fully understand these things unless you try them so I won't even try to explain it. I'd say once maybe twice a year I'll dabble in them. Stimulants, I rarely touch ever. If it's around me, and offered, I'll go for it. But that's hardly ever, so maybe twice a year.

I wouldn't say I'm a junkie, most everything is moderate use, besides my choice to drink as much as I do and can. But you know what, I get by and not only get by, I succeed. I stop when I want. I do them when I want, there is no addiction. I'm in decent health according to my doctors, and I'm a happy person. Not many happy people out there is there... I feel bad for those people sometimes, but in the end I've learned, It's all about me.

In other words, you ARE sober most of the time and do the same shit that everyone else does. For someone who proclaimed to be a little extraordinary in the beginning, you sure seem pretty damn ordinary now. You have earned my approval. Hail the ego!

[jägermonsta]

In other words, you ARE sober most of the time and do the same shit that everyone else does. For someone who proclaimed to be a little extraordinary in the beginning, you sure seem pretty damn ordinary now. You have earned my approval. Hail the ego!

No, no, no.

I'd say I've calmed down, given my description. But even still, my current consumption, I wouldn't say is normal for the average person.

So for 8 years plus, it was 2-3 handles of 7 a week. Blunt after blunt, line after line, trip after trip. I've obviously slowed down, but I'm not out of the game. Point is, I worked through all that abuse with flying colors while I still stick to my life style and keep climbing.

I have my nights still these days of complete abuse. We hang out, maybe you'll stay awake.

[jägermonsta]

But your initial post doesn't make a lot of sense.

I was making a point that people can drink and use drugs and still suceed while everyone seems to think anyone who does that, wades through life or completely fails.

[reaper]

In other words, you ARE sober most of the time and do the same shit that everyone else does. For someone who proclaimed to be a little extraordinary in the beginning, you sure seem pretty damn ordinary now. You have earned my approval. Hail the ego!

Shit , i've thrown in the towel.  I can't imagine drinking like that heavily anymore.  It could be because i'm insane.  But I also am not sure what would of been better, if I would of been sober i'd probably be rich now and I'd be able to buy lots of drugs, and do larger quantities.

 

j/k, but a nice helicopter, help Jerry's kids or something, I don't know, maybe I could of done that if I didn't drink so much when I was younger.



doesn't sound like you're doing anything different than a whole shitload of people to me either.  I thought you were on a permanent bender or something.  but what you do isn't for everybody, it's certainly not for me.  Although I do drink and smoke weed, and I like shrooms, I might do them again in ten years.



 

[playboy]

drugs are baaaaaaaaaaad

[|iR|Focalor]

Rock and roll is the gateway drug.

[UUD-40]

Remember boys and girls,
IF IT AIN'T WHITE, IT AIN'T RIGHT!![/size]