focalor, if this isn't walling then idk what is

[SlobbOnMyCob]

Everybody knows you're full of it. Drop the charade and move on, mmkay?

Oh Focalor, this has been over ever since you said it wasn't a wallhack.

Just watched the 1st demo. Totally NOT wallhacking. I'd bet 100 bucks on it.
GO FISH.

Time to pay up bitch.

Hadn't figured on researching this further, but what the hell, why not.

According to WallFly logs:

  - both demos were recorded on DM server, evening of 2017-12-05
  - "justin" in the demo was same IP used by justin/deft for over 500 days (and same ISP since 2011)

In other words, there's no mysterious 'friend' involved. It's deft's exact IP.

Incidentally, just before the demos, OP says:

[2017-12-05 Tue 23:28:50] :MaD:sLob3! was cut in half by justin's chaingun
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:29:18] :MaD:sLob3! has moved to the sidelines
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:31:25] :MaD:sLob3!: justin you get one chance
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:31:31] :MaD:sLob3!: turn off the wallhacks
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:31:32] :MaD:sLob3!: now

And just after the second demo cuts off:

[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:11] :MaD:sLob3!: brb
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:28] :MaD:sLob3!: justin youve dug your grave on this one
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:30] :MaD:sLob3! disconnected


Anyway, available evidence suggests someone who really thought he saw a wallhack, and after opinions to the contrary from multiple experts, experienced cognitive dissonance of sufficient degree to prompt confabulation.


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I did a good job on this one I told you guys little pieces now you should put the rest together about the hack. Looking at what was said is a no fun, but looking at IP addresses closely is a better place to start. Happy hunting friends.
YOU need an ASS spanking as well.
Love
-SlobbOnMyCob

[VaeVictis]

  The funny thing about all this is the player in the video, was actually using a wall hack. 
This demo was a friend of mine using a modern (new) wall hack code. Nothing fancy, everything used to implement the code was free and can be googled (I even managed to do some magic with the IP used).

 

I mean if you don't understand anything about the game or how computer networking works, then that might be believable. Posting blatant lies does no one any good.

I did a good job on this one I told you guys little pieces now you should put the rest together about the hack. Looking at what was said is a no fun, but looking at IP addresses closely is a better place to start. Happy hunting friends.
YOU need an ASS spanking as well.
Love
-SlobbOnMyCob

I am going to elaborate a little on this because it is just hurting me to see this still going on. I'll try to keep it simple, no sense going too in depth.

Quake uses UDP for the network traffic. UDP does not have a handshake, and does not require confirmation that packets were received. So far so good for your statement.

Spoofing a source address with UDP traffic is a common practice by some parties around the internet who like to do rude things. This is most commonly done for having a server respond to the address spoofed rather than the actual origin. An example of this would be a DNS reflection attack, where you can send small data to a DNS server pretending to be a different IP, and the server responds with much larger data to the IP you spoofed which when amplified with a lot of requests results in a denial of service. So again, so far so good for your statement.

The problem comes when you consider we are not talking about a one way communication. The client has to talk to the server, the server has to talk to the client. You can spoof traffic and send it to the server pretending to be a client (just ignoring sequencing for simplicity), but the responses from the server would go to the IP you were pretending to be and not you. If you cannot have both, the connection will not function correctly.

Unfortunately you cannot actually steal an IP on the internet to the degree that you would receive the packets transmitted back from the server. You can potentially set up specific circumstances to do something similar on a local network only, but at the internet level it just does not work that way.

I would highly suggest reading up on basic networking such as switching, routing, peering, TCP, UDP, etc. as they are all very interesting topics and can help you have a better understanding of how the internet works. This is useful information for almost anyone with the way the world is set up around the internet these days. I am sure there are great digestible videos on youtube with animations aimed at children if these topics intimidate you.

The current thread is about whether justin/deft was cheating or not. He is not. Problem solved.

If you have future "bot drop" issues, just make another demo and post it, but be aware that you will be wrong in most cases with the level that you understand the game currently and that is fine. Quake does have a huge learning curve, and part of that curve is figuring out how better players do what they do.

This community is not that toxic, and even foc is willing to help some one who raises legitimate concerns. It becomes toxic when you stir up drama for no reason.

Side note: Most of what I am saying is based around quadz checking server information and posting the results here (mostly the name/ip check). If quadz is convinced, I am convinced. He runs all of tastyspleen, and arguing with him is a very quick way to put yourself in a bad situation if you enjoy quake2.

[haunted]

[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:11] :MaD:sLob3!: brb
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:28] :MaD:sLob3!: justin youve dug your grave on this one
[2017-12-05 Tue 23:35:30] :MaD:sLob3! disconnected


Not directly related but why do you tag up as MaD? You didn't play q2 when that clan existed. Or is it a pun and you get mad every time you get beat so you accuse them of hacking?

Happy hunting friends.

I never watched the demos you posted. You weren't worth it, and no one's hunting.

[|iR|Focalor]

Whur's muh hunnit bucks, trick?

[Sgt. Dick]

This guy kinda reminds me of Kobra 

[haunted]

This gut kinda reminds me of Kobra 

That's a moot point.

[|iR|Focalor]

This is akin to the clip of Ted Bundy in that Jane's Addiction song, "Ted, Just Admit It", where he says "There's gonna be people turning up in canyons, there are gonna be people being shot in Salt Lake City. Because the police there aren’t willing to accept, what I think they know. And they know I didn’t do these things."

[ex]

I think that's Corncob, a.k.a. Cornelius a.k.a. a million corn-themed names.  He used to be a map maker in CTF if it's the same guy (he used to go by <BEER> in those days).  That's sad if this is what he does for "fun" now, cuz he used to make cool maps.  Oh well 

[|iR|Focalor]

I doubt it. Corn was a reynolds wrap hat wearing Alex Jones fan, maybe a little moreso than Jaquio. Wallhack conspiracy theories aside, I haven't heard a peep from him about GMO's or swine flu or 9/11 coverups. 

[SlobbOnMyCob]

I think that's Corncob, a.k.a. Cornelius a.k.a. a million corn-themed names.  He used to be a map maker in CTF if it's the same guy (he used to go by <BEER> in those days).  That's sad if this is what he does for "fun" now, cuz he used to make cool maps.  Oh well 

LMAO no that's not me.

I doubt it. Corn was a reynolds wrap hat wearing Alex Jones fan, maybe a little moreso than Jaquio. Wallhack conspiracy theories aside, I haven't heard a peep from him about GMO's or swine flu or 9/11 coverups. 

What's ironic about this is not one of you can figure out who you Justin is 
Just drop it man. Take a break from the game if you need to.

There's a website for single men called "Farmers Only" I think would be right up your alley. Go make a profile and get that ass!!

[|iR|Focalor]

no one's hunting.

[SlobbOnMyCob]

Case Closed 

[|iR|Focalor]

Hey, that's great. Good for you. Good for me. Good for everybody. I'm over here now.

[deft]

plz don't ban me.

[haunted]

Haven't decided yet.