aprq2 help

[VaeVictis]

the kicker also comes with high res textures last i checked

[ztev0]

well i got it all working and to be honest i am dissapointed. i do like the celshading effect, but aprq2 quality is no where near as good as r1q2. here is a demo recording done in aprq2. as you can see the background of the map is very blured compared to my videos done in r1q2. idk why the reason for that

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIFGyUqjaHo - aprq2 quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrzsfC6470Y - r1q2 quality

[|iR|Focalor]

Looks like that "blur" you're talking about is probably related to the weird trailing effect you seem to have going on when using that cell shading. I'm not 100% sure that's what is going on, but when I had the video paused a few times, I could clearly see what looked like a several different outlines of the same player in motion being rendered, but perhaps thats a symptom of the uploaded video itself and not the game.

edit: I was reading through the readme for aprq2 v1.211 and saw this:

gl_motionblur         0 | 1      Enables motion blur effect if your hardware support it.

Maybe that's what's going on. Looks like there are bunch of effects you can turn on and off. Read under "GL MODE" settings. Looks like there's even a setting to define the width of the black outlines with celshading on.

[ztev0]

tried that. default is 0 i tried 1 and it was like i had been smokin weed lol. but i was talking about the overall quality of the end video. the textures in the background and the video in general just looks blurredand real poor quality compared to the ones i record in r1q2

[Whirlingdervish]

try adjusting the anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering to higher values.

not sure what the cvars for these are in apr tho

[|iR|Focalor]

try adjusting the anti aliasing and anisotropic filtering to higher values.

not sure what the cvars for these are in apr tho

Could be something like that. I was thinking that aprq2 came with it's own video dll (something like apr_gl.dll maybe), but I don't see it in the zip file I downloaded. So maybe it's using r1gl for video, and if thats the case, I can't understand why you'd have a difference in texture quality like that.

But to clarify what those do:

Anti-aliasing takes the edges of lines and rather than coloring a definite pixel definition around an object, it blends the colors of neighboring pixels to make the lines look smoother. Maybe that sounds like gibberish, so here's a picture to demonstrate the concept I'm probably failing to explain worth a damn.



Now those pictures are magnified to see the pixels, but if they were shrunk back to normal size, you'd notice that the anti-aliased image looks like a smoother line and the aliased one would appear jagged and shitty like an old Atari or Nintendo game.

Anisotropic filtering makes angled textures appear more defined. It's a little harder to explain so here's another picture to demonstrate it.



If you notice the floor tiles from the middle part of the bridge up to the top of the image, they appear kinda blurred with anisotropic filtering off. With it turned up to 16x, the textures are pretty much completely defined just as any vertical surface would appear.

[ztev0]

i tried it with the settings turned up and its still the same. blurred as hell in the background. i think aprq2 is just a poor quality client
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cc2OQuG68g

might give quake2max a try see how it turns out. interesting thing to note with aprq2 there is no r1gl option in the video settings, it uses opengl

[fdrjk]

i think aprq2 is just a poor quality client

 

[ztev0]

lol well im just calling it as i see. it. i have been mucking with q2 egl and its pretty good so far. only problems i have with it, is when recording with fraps speed lags it for some reason, and it doesn't have gl_coloredlightmaps   hope it renders in good quality though cause it looks awesome with all the gore turned up

[ztev0]

now this is a good client EGL, it looks awesome. only thing it is missing is a coloredlightmaps command
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxrKd9AiTx8