Half of Brazil is banned/muted, might be jumping into and out of subnet bans....
I don't think I'm banned or muted. I can connect and talk anytime I want. BUT, sometimes I get a 400 ping in specific servers.
In fact, it's not specific anymore.
Sorry. I'm making some tests while posting this and I've just found out that it is still in specific TS servers. Now I even have a "good" ping in some 74.54.186.226 servers:
I can't play in servers with the IP 74.54.186.226, like DM and RA2. At least not everytime. I was playing this morning (brazilian time), but now (4:30pm) I have a 450ms ping. This happens almost everyday in random times. I don't think its my connection, cause I have my ~160ms usual ping in 74.54.186.236 servers, like Xrazy.
Is there anything wrong with this server or have you made any changes on it? Do you think this has something to do with my connection? It's same as before. No changes.
Its her server and she doesnt want me there. Fine if you ban me for that. You dont even need to do that. Ill stop going there if you say so. Im really enjoying that mod, but I can try playing on xatrix. But I just dont get it when they say Im giving you problems. OK, Im having a stupid behavior, but thats not a reason for that.
You keep saying you'll stop <whatever> if I say so.
But, again, this isn't a tastyspleen server. I consider myself involved in an advisory role, to a degree, but for the most part xrazy operates independently.
You got it wrong about the skin changing. Like I said, at first I didnt even know that was her server. When they told me that, I thought I would be banned. What I think now is: even if she cant ban me by herself, sure she can ask someone else to do it for her.
Thanks to my frustration level with this weekend's shenanigans, I've enabled spawngirl with "rcon status", and "rcon kick", and "rcon addhole" on xrazy (... 'addhole' being r1q2's IP-based ban command.)
So hopefully now, I am out of the loop.
Good luck,
quadz
I say Ill stop if you ask because you're the one having to deal with these problems and because it's you or Spawn Girl. I'm not gonna listen to her.
You're out of the loop. And what's the situation now? I'm not banned anymore. Haven't played there yet cause I wanted to see what you said before coming back there. I think she's only waiting for me to go there to ban me again She keeps going to vanilla to say the same shit she used to say on xrazy. But in vanilla she's got no friends to help her or rcon to change maps and timelimits, so ignoring is enough.
1. I have temporarily removed spawngirl's access to "timelimit" and "fraglimit" commands until I have a chance to discuss her use of them. (She doesn't have access to kick or ban, so it seems apparent she was trying to use timelimit to achieve the effect indirectly. However, I don't feel that is appropriate, because it punishes the whole server.)
2. It seems clear to me that if spawngirl had access to the ban command, she would simply have banned you in the first place, rather than trying more blunt methods with the commands she had available, like gamemap and timelimit. Since I have temporarily removed her access to timelimit and fraglimit (as stated above), I have correspondingly also entered a ban on your IP (only on xrazy!), which I presume is the intent behind her actions.
NOTE: Whether or not you deserve a ban on xrazy by tastyspleen standards, is not what I'm attempting to address here, as this isn't a tastyspleen zone server.
I dont care about the skin, but Im not gonna change it just because she wants. In the minute you say I can use any skin I want to play there ill change it.
I assume you are saying "I'm not gonna change it just because she wants" because you supposed she had no recourse to ban you.
However, in fact she doesn't have access to the ban command because it requires knowledge of IP's and netmasks, and she doesn't have access to IP's and (presumably) doesn't understand netmasks even if she did have access to IP's. So, she's supposed to contact me in order to ban someone. I don't know why she didn't in this case.
(Again, whether or not you deserve a ban from my personal point of view is not what I'm addressing here. Obviously, you're not banned on any tastyspleen servers.)
Regards,
quadz
I'm kinda lost in here. Are WallFly, Console and Quadz the same? I was "unbanned" from the server, went there to play, they started saying shit to me and WallFly banned me again and said hes about to ban me from all tastys servers if I continue to give him problems. Come on. People keep saying that I should act like an adult, but Im being banned for using a skin that a girl doesnt want me too. WTF man?
Its her server and she doesnt want me there. Fine if you ban me for that. You dont even need to do that. Ill stop going there if you say so. Im really enjoying that mod, but I can try playing on xatrix. But I just dont get it when they say Im giving you problems. OK, Im having a stupid behavior, but thats not a reason for that. I should not use someone elses skin, but thats not a reason to be banned. People say every time I go into the server some shit happens. Of course it does. She stops playing and starts annoying me. When I ignore her, she changes the map. I'm using her skin and thats it. Thats the "problem" Im giving you. I dont change maps or timelimits, I stopped talking to people, ignore those who insult me when I come in...
You got it wrong about the skin changing. Like I said, at first I didnt even know that was her server. When they told me that, I thought I would be banned. What I think now is: even if she cant ban me by herself, sure she can ask someone else to do it for her.
console: Eumesmo left = map change console: Eumesmois not welcome here, sorry guys console: btw, you can make you complaints to him about my bad behavior as an administrator. console: Hopefully quadz will ban me, and finaly i will left this shit console: lol
Well, that is disappointing.
If she wanted you banned, she could have asked me.
But I don't accept degrading the playability of the whole server over an issue with one player.
will I be able to play there now? I dont care about the skin, but Im not gonna change it just because she wants. In the minute you say I can use any skin I want to play there ill change it. I hate keeping the same name or skin for a long time. I always use crakhor, but rarely stay with it for the whole game. Im using hers now as I kind of stupid protest. Like I said, Ill change it. What I really want is to be able to use it or any other skin if I want without being bothered by any other player.
eumesmo entered the game WallFly[BZZZ] entered the game anticheat WallFly[BZZZ] is not using anticheat. eumesmo was kicked You were kicked from the game Disconnected by server!
the general rule of thumb with servers is "admin = god". So, nothing you can do here to really alleviate the problem. IE people have complained my server doesn't use AC, doesn't do this & that, but it's my server, not quadz, so there's nothing HE can do.
I'd say your best bet is to e-mail spawny.
As for the xrazy server, i'd say it's one of the top 10 with wallfly. dm & vanilla being the top two (and I constantly get slaughtered on). So if it's popular then it's popular. Like I tell ETQW complainers: don't play on servers where you don't like the way it's run. Enough people who do that will force a change somewhere.
sure I thought I was going to be banned in the first day she can do whatever she wants with her server, but thats not why Im here
I'm the 150~160 pinger. Her ping is about 300. I think I never used her name in a moment she wasnt there. So, if you see eumesmo starts making fun of her while shes not there, its not me.
Right, you actually don't chat much on vanilla. You're kind of like gazza, a thorn in the side of jman and I trying to find hidey holes
I understand what you're saying about using it maliciously. I misunderstood the circumstances. I know that Spawny and co. like to pick a person of the week/month to pick on. Looks like this behavior hasn't changed. I try to keep my exchanges with spawngirl as quick and "professional" as possible so that I can avoid these shenanigans. Unfortunately I'm passive aggressive, avoid confrontations, and try to get a long with everyone. So I have trouble simply writing people off.
Well except for people with no sense of humor... and the dutch!
I use to be a "cow" hunter in vanilla whenever I see players using different skins to team up, I put one of them to kill the fags
eumesmo entered the game cowie: no speak portuguese usage: connect <server> couldn't exec cfg/spirit2dm2.cfg [XZ]MAYARA: Yo no me voy ahora jejej [XZ]Spawn Girl: me too [XZ]Spawn Girl: bye [XZ]Spawn Girl disconnected cowie: lol cowie: eumesmo eumesmo: ? hitme ate SixX's rocket cowie: idk cowie: im confused eumesmo Out of item: rocket launcher eumesmo almost dodged SixX's rocket [XZ]MAYARA ate SixX's rocket eumesmo: lol eumesmo: why? hitme ate SixX's rocket SixX blew himself up. cowie: spawny said i was a retard nowshe said im stupid cowie: which is it? [XZ]MAYARA was railed by SixX eumesmo: lol hitme was railed by SixX [XZ]MAYARA: ow.... hhehehehe cowie: i think i sould learn spawnglish [XZ]MAYARA was railed by SixX hitme was railed by eumesmo eumesmo: im ignoring eumesmo: its easier cowie: lol cowie: yeah much better eumesmo almost dodged SixX's rocket [XZ]MAYARA was evaporated by hitme hitme was cut in half by SixX's chaingun Kruegger entered the game anticheat Kruegger is not using anticheat. eumesmo almost dodged SixX's rocket
Changing map... reconnecting (soft)...
Templewalk by preacher
WARNING: A cl_maxfps value of over 100 is strongly discouraged R1Q2 separates network and rendering so a cl_maxfps value > 30 is rarely needed. Use r_maxfps to control maximum rendered FPS
eumesmo entered the game usage: connect <server> SixX: ? Kruegger entered the game anticheat Kruegger is not using anticheat. eumesmo: ... couldn't exec cfg/predm1.cfg SixX: that was a fun map wtf [XZ]MAYARA: noo big map Kruegger disconnected eumesmo: you know why, dont you? ]condump map
I think you can imagine who Kruegger is...
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the rest
Dumped console text to ./xatrix/condumps/map.txt. hitme was railed by eumesmo [XZ]MAYARA: ta falando comigo? cowie entered the game anticheat cowie is not using anticheat. eumesmo was cut in half by SixX's chaingun eumesmo: voce conhece todos os mapas, nao conhece? [XZ]MAYARA: sim eumesmo: faz mymap pra um bom ai cowie: u speak portuguese mesmo? [XZ]MAYARA: pequeno? cowie: ahh ur brazillian i forgot eumesmo: thats our leguage here in brazil cowie: cool cowie: can u understand spawnglish too? eumesmo: language eumesmo: or something like that [XZ]MAYARA: mymap SixX: why did we change maps? eumesmo: not we eumesmo: she cowie: yeah [XZ]MAYARA: mymap xspasmo6 console: nextmap => xspasmo6 xtsh2dm1 xcarena xmarics74 xztn2dm4 xbath xnine2 xborder xauh2dm2 xorchard ... cowie: she was krueger cowie: or something like that [XZ]MAYARA: ahh mais que horas vai mudar o mapa, nao tem mais tempo =( eumesmo: lol eumesmo: lol Kon entered the game anticheat Kon is not using anticheat. eumesmo: no timelimit anymore (private message) (AUTO-RESPONSE) from console: --- Frag Limit: 0 --- Time Limit: 5000 cowie: yeah Kon is spawny [XZ]MAYARA almost dodged SixX's rocket cowie: hi spawny cowie: err i mean Kon ]brb eumesmo: brb cowie: k [XZ]MAYARA: estou falando com ela, acho que ela vai mudar o mapa [XZ]MAYARA: peraii hitme was cut in half by SixX's chaingun cowie: limit cowie: lol Kon was dropped: connection reset by peer Kon disconnected [XZ]Jasiu entered the game anticheat [XZ]Jasiu is not using anticheat. [XZ]Jasiu: NoCheat V2.34 Code\7692\ Server[74.54.186.236] Video[ref_gl.dll FAILED] cowie: hi jasui [XZ]Jasiu: hello [XZ]MAYARA: hi [XZ]Jasiu: hi hitme: what the hell is going on cowie: why hitme? korn entered the game anticheat korn is not using anticheat. cowie: hi spawny again errr i mean korn cowie: goto hitme: map to big no time limit cowie: hmm idk maybe [XZ]Jasiu was cut in half by SixX's chaingun [XZ]MAYARA: it will change the map =) cowie: mymap? cowie: nextmap console: nextmap => xspasmo6 xtsh2dm1 xcarena xmarics74 xztn2dm4 xbath xnine2 xborder xauh2dm2 xorchard ... cowie: limit [XZ]Jasiu: what is time limit? cowie: time limit is 5000 [XZ]Jasiu: damn console: Eumesmo left = map change hitme was cut in half by SixX's chaingun cowie: cool [XZ]Jasiu: wanna be play on bang ???? cowie: all nades? [XZ]Jasiu: is fun cowie: ok [XZ]Jasiu: goto [XZ]Jasiu: let play on bang cowie: i think eumesmo is sleeping WallFly[BZZZ]: YO! ev!lra!ler INVITES YOU TO GOTO COOP2 - alien if your on join [XZ]Jasiu ate SixX's rocket [XZ]Jasiu: mayara go to bang [XZ]Jasiu: gto bang cowie: goto bang console: teleporting cowie >> ::BANG:: << big bada-boom ! cowie disconnected [XZ]Jasiu: goto bang console: teleporting [XZ]Jasiu >> ::BANG:: << big bada-boom ! [XZ]Jasiu disconnected SixX: this sux console: Eumesmo left = map change console: Eumesmois not welcome here, sorry guys SixX: make server paswword protected SixX: then send password out to friends console: i cant console: only quadz can do it SixX disconnected hitme disconnected [XZ]MAYARA: =((( console: btw, you can make you complaints to him about my bad behavior as an administrator. [XZ]MAYARA: puede cambiar el mapa console? ]condump map1 Dumped console text to ./xatrix/condumps/map1.txt. eusemo entered the game anticheat eusemo is not using anticheat. console: Hopefully quadz will ban me, and finaly i will left this shit console: lol eusemo changed name to eusesmo eusesmo disconnected korn disconnected [XZ]Zeppelin entered the game ]condump map2
she was already fighting with other players when I got there she left 5 seconds after I came in I think she didnt even see me there before coming back with other names this log shows the whole episode
On a related note, I did see esumo (speling?) wearing the spawny skin yesterday and assumed it was spawn girl pretending to be him . Im pretty sure that the real eumesmo has a lower ping and I figured out from that that it was the real guy. I'm not sure why he wore that skin, but I've been seeing quite a few XZ members lately so I didn't start any stupid jokes like usual. Interesting to see the thread after having seen the skin.
I guess this has drifted into a conversation about Xrazy? I'm a good candidate for Focolar's description of liking the overrides but rarely playing on the server. But don't forget that we got the most players when we use XRAZY as a splatterfest event. I honestly hope we get the same turn out for BANG. Anyway, in my opinion based on the high user turnouts for splatterfest then it is enough to support liking the overrides.
I'm sad to see a split in the xatrix community. XATRIX used to be a pretty active server and it seems to have changed. XRAZY is a completely different experience from XATRIX and I honestly preferred the XATRIX experience for the casual game. XRAZY is fun with a big group of players, but XATRIX was like Vanilla for the xatrix expansion. Casual games with players of varying skills... and cows!
I'm the 150~160 pinger. Her ping is about 300. I think I never used her name in a moment she wasnt there. So, if you see eumesmo starts making fun of her while shes not there, its not me.
Uh. I can't find evidence of a single mute on xrazy in the month of November.
Doesn't quake 2 come with built in flood protection? Does that show up in the wallfly logs? I could understand if this was just a confusion of the built in flood protection as opposed to the custom wallfly "mute-by-user via the q2admin add-on" dealio.
As for changing names to screw around, I don't see the big deal. As long as it is in FFA and there are no scores at stake it is usually in good fun. Yes, people could take it too far, but you play a game about killing people with violent weapons. School-yard style pranks shouldn't be an issue. It's not much different than when I change my name to "Vlad the Impala" to tease the player named suzuki or "Maternity Ward" when I'm competing with triage for a top spot in vanilla. Just stupid pranks.
no, peewee as I said, I have no problem with people using my name the problem is that theyre using it to turn people I dont know against me
I dont care about the name. Ive never used one for more than an year anyway...
can't find the condump when I was muted ill take a better look tomorrow I was playing and foxy (EE), spawn and her friends were talking about me for about 15 minutes. They were making fun of me and I was having fun too. I even answered some of their jokes about me. But then someone came with the idea of muting me. I said something like "wtf? Youre talking about me for 15 minutes and Im not saying anything. Whats the point?" I even said it would make no difference, cause I wasnt talking No response and I recieved a message from WallFly telling me that I was muted.
Uh. I can't find evidence of a single mute on xrazy in the month of November.
Further, spawngirl doesn't have the means to mute someone.
The last mute on xrazy was a 60-second auto-mute in October:
[2009-10-13 Tue 14:50:35] wallfly: rcon sv !mute CL 2 60 [2009-10-13 Tue 14:50:35] Psyco has been muted for 60 seconds.
Further, the only mutes on xrazy in the past 9 months were all similar 60-second auto-mutes by wallfly.
So, it's pretty strange. I don't find any evidence in the logs that indicates you were muted. (And, as stated above, spawngirl doesn't have the ability to mute players anyway.)
I do find a situation a few days ago where you were named "queersmo" and people were trying to figure out how to ignore you, so an admin (via wallfly) offered to help everyone "ignore queersmo".
[2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:28] 3=queersmo: spawn [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:36] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: soo sad [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:44] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: a man without proud [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:46] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: pathetic [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:47] 3=queersmo: i added you as my buddy in ASE [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:50] 3=Mr.Ping[DUT]: lol [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:50] 3=sheep!: its easy [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:55] 3=sheep!: type ignore queersmo [2009-11-25 Wed 12:48:57] 3=sheep!: and ur done [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:11] 3=WallFly[BZZZ]: should i do it for you? [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:13] 3=queersmo: now it tells me everytime youre online [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:26] 3=sheep!: that wud be great [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:27] 3=sheep!: wallfly [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:31] 3=X7[Q2C]: [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:33] 3=WallFly[BZZZ]: YO! naughty d0g INVITES YOU TO GOTO KILLERPINGS - WOD-X ! [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:38] 3=sheep!: set that shit up wallfly [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:38] 3=sheep!: xD [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:47] 3=sheep!: i so hope thats quadz [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] 3=queersmo: so easy to ignore [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] admin: !all ignore queersmo [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] 3=Mr.Ping[DUT]: ignore queersmo [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:51] 3=bosco: ignore queersmo [2009-11-25 Wed 12:49:52] 3=WallFly[BZZZ]: ignore queersmo [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:09] 3=bosco: is queersmo gay? should we ignore him [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:43] 3=sheep!: its so nice and quiet [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:44] 3=Mr.Ping[DUT]: aw [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:46] 3=sheep!: hows that possible? [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:47] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: ignored [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:49] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: lol [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:53] 3=sheep!: mwuhahahahhaa [2009-11-25 Wed 12:50:56] 3=bosco: really no more queersmo? [2009-11-25 Wed 12:51:06] 3=eumesmo: ... [2009-11-25 Wed 12:51:09] 3=[XZ]Spawn Girl: lol
[XZ]Spawn Girl: ileave because eumesmo is connected day and night for 5 days now [XZ]Spawn Girl: using my skin EXTERMINADER ate Grifter's rocket [XZ]Spawn Girl: just for bother me
An obvious point here would be that she should not allow herself to be "bothered" by such trivia.
You can check the logs. Youll see I was just playing and ignoring her insults.
And why in that earlier situation above did an admin have to step in to help several people on the server ignore you? The eumesmo doth protest too much, methinks.
I know I'm kinda wrong about the skin, but thats no reason for an admin to act like that. No one can play on xrazy now because she keeps changing the maps everytime I take the lead.
It's true that any tastyspleen admin who behaved that way would lose their admin access pronto.
Note, however, xrazy is an INDEPENDENT ZONE server. Anyone can get an INDEPENDENT ZONE server by renting a port from us, and they can admin it according to their own rules. In the case of xrazy, I set up the server port for spawngirl, waiving the rental fees based on the sheer amount of effort she has put into creating content for the xatrix mod. She has scoured the web for interesting Q2 maps and has made some 90 or so map conversions for xatrix. Anyone who puts that kind of effort into expanding the Q2 universe, gets their own server as far as I'm concerned.
That aside, I think it's quite childish of her to degrade the playability of the server because she is "bothered" by your antics.
Regards,
come on, man please don't put specific pieces of a whole conversation it completely changes the facts youre using the exact moment I gave up playing and stoped to talk to them to make me the wrong one in the situation. go back a little more and youll see there was no reason to mute me and why I was using the name "queersmo" they were calling me that way. As I said, I was having fun with it. They call me fag, I change my name to fag. They call me queersmo, change my name to queersmo. You can find this kind of thing on vanilla logs too. and if you see the whole log, youll see they were all bothering me and I was only playing and having fun with what they were saying. they say im a brazilian scum, I say all brazilians are scum. Its like "you can say whatever you want. I dont care. Im playing and having fun. Youre not" by the way, bosco is foxy, or the one who pretends to be him.
you have different names for things that are the same for me making everyone to ignore me has the same efect of muting me thats why I was saying I was muted
"The eumesmo doth protest too much, methinks." Sorry. My english is not good enough to understand this sentence
I know about the independence. Thats why I asked if I should talk about this in here. I dont want to ruin the server. Im really enjoying xrazy, but Spawngril has to understand shes not the center of the world. She says Im only there to bother her, but I didnt even know that was her server when I first came there. You will find no talk between me and her before the day she used my name (in the same day, she was using D.Camperone name and killing herself to fuck his stats). People were always making fun of her and I never said a word before that. Its not the first time I try different mods. Ive been playing this game for about 10 years now. Do you really think Id go through that playing "vanilla" only?
My point with this topic was only to make you aware that some people were using my name and saying shit to other player and destroying their game. You go to xrazy and youll see people who have never spent a second with me in the same server saying they hate me, cause theyre trying to play and 5 eumesmos wont let them. You can do whatever you want with me about the skin thing. I came here only to tell you Im not doing those other things.
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