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DWxchzrles · « **Reply #1125 on:** February 28, 2007, 06:49:41 PM »

i like the idea of global warming

tired of freezing during the winter

haunted · « **Reply #1126 on:** February 28, 2007, 07:38:52 PM »

Well, it is hard to say whether the consequences will be bad or good from it(excluding the obvious damage to the atmosphere from burning hydrocarbons/fossil fuels). Judging from the past, instinctively we can say that it will most likely be bad, BUT we have never gotten to over 300 ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere with the reason that it got there now. It is definitely better to assume the worst, being that in 200 years we could be in a very dangerous predicament saying to ourselves 'WHAT THE FUCK WERE WE THINKING 2 CENTURIES AGO...'

metaL · « **Reply #1127 on:** February 28, 2007, 09:38:31 PM »

amen. fuck the people that dont believe this is an issue.. it might not be a crisis right now, but it will be. jagermonsta, you are an ignorant son of a bitch. sorry kid, you need to educate yourself.

DaHanG · « **Reply #1128 on:** February 28, 2007, 09:42:10 PM »

We can't know whether or not the increase in temperature is natural or contributed to by humans. It is incomprehensible.

metaL · « **Reply #1129 on:** February 28, 2007, 09:49:48 PM »

tim, it seems we agree on many concepts and disagree on many. I have not based my opinion on the beliefs of my parents or friends, and i respect your opinion, i just wanted you to know that.

DaHanG · « **Reply #1130 on:** February 28, 2007, 10:01:07 PM »

Ok. It's all good. (My last post was sarcastic, not my real opinion. I was poking fun at reaper. I don't know you didn't realize this and if it generated your response

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Whirlingdervish · « **Reply #1131 on:** February 28, 2007, 10:45:29 PM »

you guys must have missed God killin the dinosaurs.. I say global warming is just God's incomprehensible answer to humans fuckin up his "perfect" planet,

quadz · « **Reply #1132 on:** February 28, 2007, 10:57:53 PM »

Quote from: Whirlingdervish(Q2C) on February 28, 2007, 10:45:29 PM

you guys must have missed God killin the dinosaurs.. I say global warming is just God's incomprehensible answer to humans fuckin up his "perfect" planet,

metaL · « **Reply #1133 on:** February 28, 2007, 11:02:51 PM »

Who says God killed the dinosaurs? who says God did anything but create the spark which led to everything we see today? this is just how i see it. i believe that there was a "spark" or a "creator" in the beginning. Everyone, take that as you will.

quadz · « **Reply #1134 on:** February 28, 2007, 11:11:44 PM »

Quote from: metal on February 28, 2007, 11:02:51 PM

Who says God killed the dinosaurs? who says God did anything but create the spark which led to everything we see today? this is just how i see it. i believe that there was a "spark" or a "creator" in the beginning.

How can we know whether the initial spark wasn't the formation of God itself? It would be incomprehensible.

metal, I still don't understand:
IF it's OK that everything we see around us came from an initial spark from God,
WHY aren't we allowed to ask whether God himself might have come from a similar spark?

Regards,

quadz

DaHanG · « **Reply #1135 on:** February 28, 2007, 11:53:06 PM »

Quote from: metal on February 28, 2007, 11:02:51 PM

i believe that there was a "spark" or a "creator" in the beginning. Everyone, take that as you will.

My personal belief is that there is almost certainly no god, and deism is the only plausible alternative explanation. All the superfluous religious (supernatural) explanations are just nonsense in my opinion.

A god behind the creation of the universe poses a bigger problem than the universe itself. Questions like "How likely did this entity form on its own?" or "Why does this creative intelligence exist within nothingness?" are more than incomprehensible - they're ridiculously implausible. If we're willing to accept that there never was true nothingness (I am) then invoking god seems unhelpful since matter/energy is far less complex than some powerful spiritual intelligence.

Through my personal experiences, learning evolution, and further investigation I have yet to see any shred of evidence for the existence of such a being.

There is only one scientific reason why I have doubt about my position: The fine-tuning of the universe. This is a not a very strong argument for two reasons, however.

First, we are automatically assuming that we are the only universe that exists. This is comparable to the apparent design of Earth being so

Arm0r · « **Reply #1136 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:24:03 AM »

Skeptics will ask this question constantly:

1. Ok, what made everything? and I mean everything--what created the components for the supposed "Big Bang Theory"? Because it is a fact you cannot create something from nothing.....it's just impossible

quadz · « **Reply #1137 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:55:24 AM »

Quote from: |Armor| on March 01, 2007, 01:24:03 AM

Because it is a fact you cannot create something from nothing.....it's just impossible

Maybe so, but along the same lines isn't it also possible to load a new program into memory and press the "reset button"?

So let's say hypothetically true consciousness were to be achieved someday in a kind of software simulation running on some future hardware.

Arm0r · « **Reply #1138 on:** March 01, 2007, 01:57:33 AM »

Quote from: quadz on March 01, 2007, 01:55:24 AM

Quote from: |Armor| on March 01, 2007, 01:24:03 AM
Because it is a fact you cannot create something from nothing.....it's just impossible

Maybe so, but along the same lines isn't it also possible to load a new program into memory and press the "reset button"?

So let's say hypothetically true consciousness were to be achieved someday in a kind of software simulation running on some future hardware.

Arm0r · « **Reply #1139 on:** March 01, 2007, 02:00:20 AM »

But if you really believe the whole evolution thing, then you also believe love is not real...just a balance of chemicals in your brain that make you fond of a specific person, or even used to procreate the species...if thats true, rage is just an imbalance in your brain.

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