Author Topic: why are Skyline and Detector still not banned? (Read 16210 times)

console · « **Reply #30 on:** May 21, 2006, 07:34:44 PM »

Quote from: va.Ghost9 on May 21, 2006, 06:30:18 PM

vga_slugs cheats? I didn't know that.

This was the incriminating demo:
http://tastyspleen.net/quake/downloads/demos/cheaters/050922_vga-slugs_wallhack.dm2

Regards,

console · « **Reply #31 on:** May 21, 2006, 08:03:19 PM »

Quote from: titties on May 21, 2006, 07:25:33 PM

console, just wondering if you have checked the logs to see if there was anything suspicious about the way skyline logged on.....ill go ahead and assume he has something that is currently undetected......

Hi,

I didn't see anything unusual in the logs. The thing is, without forcing people to use a specific client (meaning: a hypothetical anti-cheat client that is regularly updated), detecting any but the most obvious hacks is not feasible programmatically.

Since q2 is open source, people don't have to use proxys anymore. It takes literally one line of code in the GL renderer in q2 to make a wallhack. I'm not giving anything away by saying that, because it would be obvious to any programmer.

(However, that simple kind of wallhack is not enough to get around the server's anti-wallhack features. The full story there is when I updated the configs and rebooted tourney4 a few nights ago, I accidentally loaded an old config with the anti-wallhack protection turned off. So that skyline demo was recorded on tourney4 with no wallhack protection on the server--so any old wallhack would have worked. Once I watched the demo I realized something was wrong, and turned the anti-wallhack protection back on.)

So, yes, that's why we ask for demos. Because automatic detection of hacks is generally not possible, except for catching a few newbies using poorly-written hacks. Ultimately, eyeballing it is our only real defense.

Regards,

[BTF]DeathStalker · « **Reply #32 on:** May 21, 2006, 08:55:06 PM »

Quote from: titties on May 21, 2006, 07:25:33 PM

i seriously doubt he and detector are the only ones with this "new proxy

I think a player calling himself "Obvious" has a new Proxy. 200+ ping, perfect rails, 0 lag in his movements, Always on top of you no matter where you respawn.
But I don't have a Demo, so i'll defintly keep eye out for this one and try to get a demo.

titties · « **Reply #33 on:** May 21, 2006, 09:25:51 PM »

its probably haunted......makes sense given the fact that in one of haunted's previous posts he actually uploaded a SS that was given to him by guess who? yep, plextor.....i wonder why haunted didnt just come out and say that plextor was ditzu in his post....and why is he doing ditzu this favor? connect the dots you fucking idiots.

http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=2528.0

console · « **Reply #34 on:** May 21, 2006, 10:02:27 PM »

Quote from: titties on May 21, 2006, 09:25:51 PM

its probably haunted......

There doesn't seem to be anyone using the name "obvious" on the tourney servers. Just vanilla and dm:

203.214.xxx.xxx (22 hours ago) The Obvious, PINNED

P.S.... it's not haunted. Apparently The Obvious hails from Australia.

Quote from: titties on May 21, 2006, 09:25:51 PM

connect the dots you fucking idiots.

You really might want to cut down on the ganja, dude.

Om3ga · « **Reply #35 on:** May 22, 2006, 01:04:25 AM »

0h n0es!

chalupa!

[BTF] Reflex · « **Reply #36 on:** May 22, 2006, 01:36:42 AM »

Pool on Omegas 3000th post?

I got 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours 32 minutes and 5 seconds from now

Aussies have alwyas been some hardcore quakers,
remember em from back in the day in q1

Bleach · « **Reply #37 on:** May 22, 2006, 10:15:58 AM »

Quote from: {SX}Reflex on May 22, 2006, 01:36:42 AM
Quote from: {SX}Reflex on May 22, 2006, 01:36:42 AM

Pool on Omegas 3000th post?

I got 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours 32 minutes and 5 seconds from now

Aussies have alwyas been some hardcore quakers,

[BTF]adam · « **Reply #38 on:** May 22, 2006, 10:20:23 AM »

Aussies wrestle crocodiles and shit! they are a bit tough.

haunted · « **Reply #39 on:** May 22, 2006, 06:24:10 PM »

Yeah I made a deal with ditzu.. If I post the screenshots, then he sends me his hacks.. It was an oppurtunity that I just could not resist!

naymlis · « **Reply #40 on:** May 22, 2006, 06:37:34 PM »

[TC]Granny · « **Reply #41 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:40:57 AM »

u know the funny thing is that it took xpoze ADMITTING he was cheating for him to actually get banned. so basically hang and naym wont be banned until they ADMIT it... wow such control over the cheaters it's amazing

magical pig · « **Reply #42 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:07:15 AM »

Quote from: [TC]Granny on May 28, 2006, 10:40:57 AM

u know the funny thing is that it took xpoze ADMITTING he was cheating for him to actually get banned. so basically hang and naym wont be banned until they ADMIT it... wow such control over the cheaters it's amazing

stop whining and move on... you're boring

Spawn.Ds · « **Reply #43 on:** May 28, 2006, 10:52:43 PM »

I know I cought skyline plenty of times

adrenal1ne · « **Reply #44 on:** May 29, 2006, 06:57:22 AM »

..yea spawn the only one who caught xpoze cheating..

Author Topic: why are Skyline and Detector still not banned? (Read 16210 times)

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