2c10 is not smart

[10zx]

speaking of logs..

shouldn't the logs show that all I did was r_kick and not r_ban?

[[BTF]Gator]

the logs show a r_bodyslam.  Which i feel was out of line.

:O

[console]

shouldn't the logs show that all I did was r_kick and not r_ban?

For reaper, yes.  But I'd received complaints about bans two and three days prior to that (2006-05-14 and 2006-05-15).  For the record, here are all the recent ref ban logs:

tourney4-060501.log:167898:[2006-05-04 21:23] DaHanG now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:167901:[2006-05-04 21:23] [TC]RiDiX has been banned!
tourney4-060501.log:167912:[2006-05-04 21:24] [TC]DinSum has been banned!
(Note: after this ban, dahang contacted me and explained the reason. I removed the ban.)
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tourney2.log:8476152:[2006-05-09 22:43] DaHanG now has referee status.
tourney2.log:8476161:[2006-05-09 22:44] d1tzu has been banned!
(Note: official ban.)
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tourney-060501.log:608086:[2006-05-14 16:33] e|LmT^ now has referee status.
tourney-060501.log:608234:[2006-05-14 16:35] ar.fury has been banned!
(Note: This ban occured before the start of an NADML match. fury was being a bit pissy because he wasn't on the roster and wasn't being allowed to play... But I don't think the ban was justified.)
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tourney4-060501.log:643947:[2006-05-15 01:41] [2c.10] now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:644112:[2006-05-15 01:45] ah!(playboy) has been banned!
(Note: I couldn't find any reason for this ban from the logs.)
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tourney4-060501.log:904976:[2006-05-20 23:57] FoJ|DaHanG now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:904989:[2006-05-20 23:57] bitch(Wheels) has been banned!
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tourney4-060501.log:930964:[2006-05-21 12:35] afk(dahang) now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:930969:[2006-05-21 12:35] skyline['] has been banned!
(Note: official ban.)
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tourney4-060501.log:989573:[2006-05-22 14:24] DaHanG now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:989576:[2006-05-22 14:24] DinSum(Wheels) has been banned!
(Note: Wheels was warned repeatedly to stop aliasing as DinSum. Wheels kept coming back after being kicked, still aliasing as DinSum. I have no problem with this ban.)
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tourney4-060501.log:1136013:[2006-05-25 16:05] DaHanG now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:1136287:[2006-05-25 16:12] Meatloaf(Wheels) has been banned!
(Note: This occurred during a non-official match, looks like a 1v1 btween adrenaline and rehash. Wheels connected to the server and said in mm1, "rehash dont give away the wqall hack man", and was banned. Given that Wheels has pretty much used up all of his slack, and has a record of ignoring warnings from console and coming back after being kicked and continuing to misbehave, I don't have much problem with this ban in this context.  Especially since refs have no r_mute. But I would still prefer to see a kick first, and then a ban.)
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tourney4-060501.log:1234100:[2006-05-27 14:25] me(dahang) now has referee status.
tourney4-060501.log:1234107:[2006-05-27 14:25] <BOB>onacid has been banned!
(Note: <BOB>onacid had already played a couple games for the past hour and a half, but he didn't get into the current game. After saying, "unlock i wanna play", "man u fuckin fags", "i wanted to play", "god damn assholes", he then began spamming his "fuck you whore" bind in mm1.  He had spammed the bind 18 times in under a minute when he was banned. Since he was clearly being a jerk I don't have much problem with this, but again, I would prefer to see a kick first, and then a ban.)


That brings us up to date as of 5/27 on tourney4 and 5/30 (today) on the rest.

The most recent three bans I didn't know about.  When I have time I'll go back in the logs and look for context (who said what to whom.)


Regards,

[daelmun]

Yikes, since when did I ban anyone from the tourney4 server? Didn't think I had used the ban command even once in my time as a ref, only thing I've done recently (aside changing timelimit) is kicking paradiselost's ghost after he disconnected/reconnected yesterday. But maybe my memory is playing tricks on me 

[Ghost9]

Why are ridix, dinsum, fury, and playboy being banned?  Have any of these players been caught cheating?

[console]

Yikes, since when did I ban anyone from the tourney4 server?

My mistake, sorry.    I've fixed the attribution, above, and added some context.


Regards,

[haunted]

ridix and dinsum being banned? kinda self explanatory haha, the possibilities are endless. As for playboy.. idk, he's always been cool and doesn't cheat/

[console]

Why are ridix, dinsum, fury, and playboy being banned?  Have any of these players been caught cheating?

Note: One of those "dinsum" was actually Wheels impersonating dinsum.  I've fixed it, above.

Also, as I mentioned above, the one time ridix/dinsum were banned, I disagreed with the ban and removed it.  (Although they were pretty much being weenies and holding up games.)  But I appreciate that dahang contacted me about the ban when it happened.

The fury and playboy bans did not look appropriate to me. 


Regards,

[[TC]Granny]

here's an idea console.. give me admin and ill clean up your servers real good.  Now that a few cheaters have actually been banned, they get mad and figure that if they were caught cheating and banned, then they might aswell tell everyone who they got the cheat from and who's using it.  I have this information and could quickly and easily get rid of the trash that's messing with q2. 

sadly i dont expect admin because q2 is poisoned with hackers who are polite and i guess that's all it takes to not be banned or even accused.  basically im just hoping someone else puts up a wicked server and keeps it clean. Till then i guess im stuck being the legit shark in a pool of walling  guppies 

[[BTF]EyEsTrAiN]

 

[console]

might aswell tell everyone who they got the cheat from and who's using it.  I have this information

Well nothing's stopping you from PM'ing me this "info".

Better yet, how about some convincing demos?


Thx,

[[TC]Granny]

there's no demo i could post even if it was blaintent walling, u will never bann naym or hang so i wont bother.

[console]

there's no demo i could post even if it was blaintent walling, u will never bann naym or hang so i wont bother.

Translation: I don't have a convincing demo.

[X'tyfe]

heh why dont you just join all the little kids on vanilla granny
im sure you would fit in just fine

[10zx]

fury ban was cause he didn't stfu.. and if you knew fury like I do, you'd have known a kick would result in him just constantly returning and spamming non-sense in mm1.  The 2 clans had agreed to start without him.