some help with rails?

[Remedy]

I played my first team rails game yesterday on q2dm1a vs some of those .dc guys and we won but I noticed that my biggest problem was that I was playing 90% offensively and 10% def (my deaths were almost as high as my frags in fact :/), I was wondering if any of you guys that play this stuff all the time could give me some pointers on how things are done in the team setting, and even more than that how to keep your deaths down better

I wouldve just watched/studied some demos but I have no idea where to find any on something like this

[[BTF]adam]

I played there too, and with the exception of a few, alot were assholes, I tried using team binds with him, they initiated a kick vote and kicked me, i came back, then I was called a fag several times, and several people left, calling me names, now thats the type of edge that I can feel over at tastyrailgun.com, and its not good, I went there expecting a cool bunch of people, like tastyspleen, and with the exception of those who know who they are, I didnt get that, I got stuck up "rail leetists" who spammed stinky binds like "RATBOT V 3.12" just because. but when I did get to play, I just noticed that the other team stayed down in the arena, waiting for us to pop out and then they just railed from there, but it was fun, heres 1 tip :p, do all the standard jumps that TDMers know, none of those railers there yesterday could do them! that's a decent advantage, even though theres no armour or anything to get.

[Remedy]

that's weird they shit talked you, all the guys I met yesterday and the day before when I joined [RL] were cool ppl, after the rails game I played wod with crazymofo for like an hour on his own server

wods actually a fun mod but for only like 30-40 mins at a time ;P

[inhuman]

yo adam

certainly it wasnt from a dc player was it? please let me know and ill see what i can do. our clan tries to stay above the pettiness and idiocy that has been plagueing the server and the forums at trg... not only has it affected you and many other players, but me as well... im not immune to it 

i apologize in advance if any member of our clan insulted you in any way

[Spawn.Ds]

Some the coolest railers I ever meet was clan Doa , plus they played wod . Fookers r still around too 

http://www.grungir.com/cgi-bin/doayabb/YaBB.pl

Now this rails you been playing sean that hook enabled ? I find rails quite boring otherwise . I @ one time was a decent hooker , hehe 

Some good tdmers come from insta railz too like element and nebulous .I imagin rob could tell ya a bit , Me personaly I dont tink there is much for tactics other then staying alive , no items or armor to work etc... Back in the day I hit a few 700 and 800 frag per hour matches

[Remedy]

nah this is with no hooks

lol element didnt come from rails only, he was an ffa newbie like me back when we were both 16-17

go =LoMD=!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BadBrent]

BS...AGBT owned all back in the day.

[Spawn.Ds]

I'm pretty sure in past discussions with ROb he told me he was a railer back then . I could be thinking of colin though not sure , I have spent alot of time with cubbi neb and ten online though a few years back . I'm sure all q2 players got their start in ffa and not going to debate that with ya

I kinda miss them days back then , me and rob would go to like african , austrailian servers etc.. .and play with ultra high pings for shits n giggles , Until they kick us claiming we was bots etc.. LoL . We use to alais n team on like kansas and q2dm server too on dm3 , taking turns with the quad damage was a freakin blast .

Back on topic :

I'm pretty sure the only thing with rails is out gunning (boting) haha j/k ,

[milhouse]

I played there too, and with the exception of a few, alot were assholes, I tried using team binds with him, they initiated a kick vote and kicked me, i came back, then I was called a fag several times, and several people left, calling me names, now thats the type of edge that I can feel over at tastyrailgun.com

LMAO dude, your story is exaggerated beyond belief. The problem you had a TRG was just with one person and that was Legend. Yeah he initiated a vote to kick you but nobody voted and so Legend left by himself and you stayed. How do I know? Because I played you the next game 

I went there expecting a cool bunch of people, like tastyspleen, and with the exception of those who know who they are, I didnt get that, I got stuck up "rail leetists" who spammed stinky binds like "RATBOT V 3.12"

Again dude it was just one person doing all the spamming.

heres 1 tip :p, do all the standard jumps that TDMers know, none of those railers there yesterday could do them! that's a decent advantage

Again man, another quick generalization about rail players. When I played you 1v1,  I told you I couldnt do all of those jumps, but I guarantee you that most of the railers you play at TRG can do them quite easily.

Well my point is that you shouldnt try to give us TRG players a bad name just because you had one bad experience with another person there. Play there more often and you'll see that its a pretty ccol place 

[Remedy]

lol is anybody gonna give me some rail advice or should I just go ahead and request this be moved to the entropy pool ?

 

[Mr._X]

yo adam

certainly it wasnt from a dc player was it? please let me know and ill see what i can do. our clan tries to stay above the pettiness and idiocy that has been plagueing the server and the forums at trg... not only has it affected you and many other players, but me as well... im not immune to it 

i apologize in advance if any member of our clan insulted you in any way

Unfortunately for me, I don't get an apology for your mistake at calling me 'what are we going to do with this kid' because he bots? And what about your newbness, you still need to admit to being a newb.

[[BTF]adam]

Ill work from the top down, before when I came on, there was an asshole, I dont remember who, otherwise id have told inhuman like he asked, I know you know the one/s when I was on with you there, indeed he left by himself, but only when he realised he wasnt getting nowhere, and SHIT I just realised what I wrote - scrap the part where I put "they kicked me and I came back", that didnt happen, man im a dumbass, replace with what I wrote above..

If I recall correctly, there were around three spamming stuff like that (im not bothered, it was just stupid)

And finally - You told me you couldent do the jumps, and i saw NOONE do those jumps for the hour and a half or so I played there, im not trying to give you a bad name at all, im explaining the unpleasent experience I had when I went to the server, and ive discussed this with inhumaN already.

[inhuman]

sean with regard to strategy:

i try to take a dm approach: know the map, the sounds. play the player and learn his/her tendencies.

also, try not to jump too much bc there are a LOT of talented railers that can snipe u in the air.

and also, minimize open court battles and try to find strength in numbers - fewer the deaths, the greater number of wins 

a lot of players who  have played me know that i play a strictly defensive game... and its worked for me extremely well. however, there are players like sinner and crazymofo who have found success with the aggressive offensive game...

i guess, the best way to learn is to play FFA at tastyspleen railz concomitantly with tdm at trg to find the best balance in ur rails game.

perhaps more ppl can chime in...

[Remedy]

sean with regard to strategy:

i try to take a dm approach: know the map, the sounds. play the player and learn his/her tendencies.

also, try not to jump too much bc there are a LOT of talented railers that can snipe u in the air.

and also, minimize open court battles- fewer the deaths, the greater number of wins

[Spawn.Ds]

RgR with the jump part , I always found jumping kinda pointless in insta rails for a few reasons , 1 . jumping in tdm is to get items power ups etc... 2 . Jumping makes you a ez target against a railer because once u leave the ground you have no control over your movment or very little . Best bet is to keep your feet planted and dodge weave n duck .