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Ping woes.
« on: March 31, 2006, 12:24:39 PM »
Now im not one to whine about ping, but 400+ is a bit too much lol, can you see whats wrong? i'm stumped, for some reason at some point in the week, or more often, my ping shoots upto around 400 +, browsing speed slows like hell and IRC tends to disconnect / reconnect / disconnect etc, its happened the last 30 minutes although IRC hasnt disconnected yet.  :(
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2006, 03:33:55 PM »
where did u say u got my pak again? i want my old hud back! :D

do you have a wireless router? maybe someones stealin ur bandwidth?
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2006, 03:36:30 PM »
Wired lol, routers given me no trouble since i've had it, though it is connected by USB, which some frown upon :P I think I got it from seans filesource site, but this hud is one he picked out for me and gave me with some sounds I needed, probably from your pak though anyways.
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2006, 04:12:53 PM »
the hud he's using is in that kubus pak if it's not in your old pak on fs

I use the same hud on my q2 ;D
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2006, 04:15:06 PM »
adam no wonder u suck...look at that ugly crosshair
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2006, 04:25:41 PM »
where can i get kubus' pak? didn't see it on fs
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2006, 04:31:58 PM »
http://filesource.quakeclans.org/files/paks/kkubasspak.rar

i misspelled it, although I'm not entirely sure if thats the real spelling anyways
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2006, 04:39:02 AM »
Here's the traceroute to tastyspleen.. im not good at analysing these but it looks like there is a problem with UK and US hops.. but ive connected to other servers, and euro servers fine.


racing route to tastyspleen.net [67.19.248.74]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.2
  2    15 ms    14 ms    14 ms  esr1.sheffield3.broadband.bt.net [217.47.73.140]

  3    14 ms    13 ms    14 ms  217.47.73.13
  4    14 ms    14 ms    13 ms  217.41.176.17
  5    15 ms    16 ms    17 ms  217.41.176.66
  6    15 ms    16 ms    16 ms  217.41.176.78
  7    15 ms    13 ms    14 ms  217.41.176.54
  8    14 ms    13 ms    14 ms  217.47.73.106
  9    16 ms    13 ms    14 ms  core1-pos1-0.sheffield.ukcore.bt.net [217.32.171
.193]
 10    19 ms    19 ms    20 ms  62.6.204.189
 11    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1-pos14-1.reading.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.15
0]
 12    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1-pos13-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.238
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 13    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1-pos4-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.
113]
 14   190 ms   187 ms   189 ms  ge3-0.pr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [195.66.224.76]
 15   187 ms   187 ms   183 ms  pos3-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [208.184.231.69]
 16   194 ms   195 ms   195 ms  so-4-1-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [208.184.231.174]

 17   267 ms   268 ms   270 ms  so-4-0-0.cr1.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.27.57]
 18   274 ms   263 ms   266 ms  so-0-0-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.29.122]
 19   300 ms   302 ms     *     so-6-0-0.cr2.dfw2.us.above.net [64.125.28.70]
 20   312 ms     *      300 ms  216.200.6.237.theplanet.com [216.200.6.237]
 21   305 ms   306 ms   299 ms  vl32.dsr01.dllstx3.theplanet.com [70.85.127.61]

 22   302 ms   305 ms   303 ms  vl41.dsr01.dllstx4.theplanet.com [70.85.127.83]

 23   295 ms   294 ms   294 ms  gi1-0-1.car13.dllstx4.theplanet.com [67.19.255.5
8]
 24   312 ms   306 ms     *     74.67-19-248.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.248.74
]
 25   303 ms   312 ms   312 ms  74.67-19-248.reverse.theplanet.com [67.19.248.74
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Trace complete.

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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2006, 07:44:18 AM »
The ping jump from uk to us looks good (195-270). Considering you go through 9 hops after entering the us, I'd say the 40ms ping increase to the server is also normal. That's just an approximate 115ms increase from the UK to the server, right ? On the other hand, you are already at 195ms before leaving your own country.

Do you have any past tracerts to compare with ? Wonder if your route has changed.
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2006, 08:03:48 AM »
Dont have any saved, but beforehand, i've tracerouted to tastyspleen.net, and outcome was my normal ping, I usually ping around 110 - 130.. I connect to the east servers with normal ping (tourney4, jumpmod) and all gators servers(euro 1, 2, 3, WOD) with normal ping, its just those others like mutant and such. It always was around 25 hops when I trcrted though
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2006, 08:12:35 AM »
tracert server that you ping normal to and one that is high. See where the difference is.
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Re: Ping woes.
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2006, 08:20:55 AM »
Tracert to east server.


Tracing route to east.tastyspleen.net [69.9.168.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.2
  2    14 ms    14 ms    15 ms  esr1.sheffield3.broadband.bt.net [217.47.73.140]

  3    14 ms    14 ms    14 ms  217.47.73.13
  4    17 ms    15 ms    14 ms  217.41.176.17
  5    16 ms    15 ms    15 ms  217.41.176.122
  6    14 ms    13 ms    14 ms  217.41.176.58
  7    13 ms    14 ms    13 ms  217.47.110.178
  8    15 ms    14 ms    13 ms  217.32.171.213
  9    17 ms    17 ms    17 ms  core1-pos5-0.manchester.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.16
.197]
 10    21 ms    19 ms    20 ms  core1-pos3-1.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.204.1
10]
 11    23 ms    21 ms    23 ms  core1-pos13-0.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.245
]
 12    25 ms    24 ms    23 ms  core1-pos5-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.
129]
 13   106 ms   104 ms   105 ms  linx.peer.nac.net [195.66.224.94]
 14     *      108 ms   107 ms  0.so-5-0-0.gbr1.mmu.nac.net [209.123.11.53]
 15   108 ms   107 ms   108 ms  0.ge-6-0-0.gbr2.mmu.nac.net [209.123.11.10]
 16   158 ms   108 ms   108 ms  0.so-3-3-0.gbr2.nwr.nac.net [209.123.11.61]
 17   107 ms   108 ms     *     0.ge-6-2-0.gbr2.nyc.nac.net [209.123.11.181]
 18   100 ms   103 ms   102 ms  voxel-3.customer.nyc.nac.net [209.123.118.27]
 19   105 ms   103 ms   102 ms  0.so-0-1-0.cr1.lga1.us.voxel.net [69.9.185.130]

 20    99 ms    99 ms    99 ms  5.ge0-2.esw7.lga1.us.voxel.net [69.9.164.40]
 21   101 ms   102 ms    98 ms  vicious.voxel.net [69.9.166.38]
 22   104 ms   101 ms   103 ms  69.9.168.4

Trace complete.

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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2006, 08:39:36 AM »
Ugh, 400+.

Sorry I can't help you with your ping issues, I can barely understand how to config my own IP  :/
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2006, 08:41:52 AM »
In the first tracert (the bad one), uk.above.net in the UK is the start of the problem and only gets worse at us.above.net on the USA side. The second tracert (good one) does not go though above.net. I think it's safe to say that this is where your problem lies. Anyone disagree ?

http://www.above.net/support/index.html
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2006, 09:13:32 AM »
I concur with Art:

 12    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1-pos13-1.ealing.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.238]
 13    24 ms    23 ms    22 ms  core1-pos4-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [194.74.65.113]
 14   190 ms   187 ms   189 ms  ge3-0.pr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [195.66.224.76]
 15   187 ms   187 ms   183 ms  pos3-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [208.184.231.69]


There is a problem with the border routers between bt.net and above.net. 

I'm not sure we can say for sure whether the congestion is on the bt.net end or the above.net end, meaning I think it might be possible the bt.net link to above.net is saturated and so the bt.net router (#13) is responding to pings fast itself, but is experiencing delays trying to stuff packets into a full pipe toward above.net.  Or, it could be the above.net router (#14) receiving the packets from bt.net is somehow fux0red.

But i think we can be pretty certain it's either router #13 or #14 . . .

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Ayer me mato 5 veces para robarme en la vida real hará lo mismo? [img]<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid0wXU2VgS7atesBcSoMz5BWMJCJajeZFVT6GzSU6TtpJGddN9kLTvWNgcZaskkbKFQl&amp;show_text=true&amp;width=500
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Yotematoi

July 24, 2024, 01:25:59 PM
hi ya está la basura de Martin, se cambió el nombre es un ladron estupido, asi llegó a 10000[img]<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid03hZrkDUBJPZKCuFgy5hRUy831ekKJYVRzC7ajXaKQbJ6xcPgKftLukUDfovFyEq3l&amp;show_text
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Yotematoi

July 24, 2024, 01:25:59 PM
hi ya está la basura de Martin, se cambió el nombre es un ladron estupido, asi llegó a 10000[img]<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fzoloyoze.torito%2Fposts%2Fpfbid03hZrkDUBJPZKCuFgy5hRUy831ekKJYVRzC7ajXaKQbJ6xcPgKftLukUDfovFyEq3l&amp;show_text
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