Purri demo (gets beaten by avi)

[Slikkster]

After hearing so much about Purri (ok, ok, I'm sooo out of the whole competitive scene), I went looking for a demo to see what the fuss was all about.  Now, a disclaimer:

He's obviously extremely talented
No way could I ever beat the guy
One demo probably doesn't mean much

But, all of that said, I guess I was a bit let down by what I saw.  I was expecting near perfection, and I just didn't quite get what all the fuss was about.  But hear me out...it's not so much as a slap against him, but more of a compliment to some of the people I've played at TastySpleen who have wiped the floor with me.  And there are quite a few of those.  It just looked to me that some of the people I've played against (and lost handily to) could be quite competitive with him (again, if this demo is indicative of his regular match skills). 

I guess I was looking for unbelievable rail shots, and a total domination of his opponent.  I dunno, maybe I just misunderstood some of the comments about the guy.  But honestly, some of the TS all-stars certainly seem like they could give the guy a run for his money, in my opinion, if this demo is indicative of his regular play.  Take a look:

http://q2scene.net/ds/index.php?op=dd1&id=1142360785

Then I went looking for a Thresh demo, just to see him in action lo those many years ago.  I found one where he went up against a guy who had won a UK tournament prior to their match.  Thresh beat the guy like 56 to -1 or something.  And I have to say, his rails were pretty damn accurate.  Was it a slow demo?  Well, given the map it was on, I don't know how much faster it could have gone.  Here it is:

http://challenge-tv.com/index.php?mode=demodetail&demo=1553&dl=1

It's a little annoying because you see body limbs in the chase perspective, and the chaser frequently switches between chasing Thresh and chasing Billox.  But you can still see the skill level in action.  One funny dated part on the demo refers to an observer yearing for a Diamond 12-Meg Voodoo II card.  I can remember those days...

Anyway, Thresh's aim was dead on, particularly with railz.  Purri's in his demo wasn't quite as accurate, although they were moving about quite a bit.  So, maybe it's apples to oranges, but I wouldn't be so quick to say Purri would beat Thresh in a slam dunk. 

[naymlis]

ive seen the purri vs avi demo, and throughout the demo i was yelling at purri cause he was playing dumb.. it doesnt' seem like he was playing seriously at all and avi's rockets weren't helping either. gg by avi, bg by purri but this is probably one of the VERY FEW games purri has done bad on.. go watch any of the other demos on q2scene if u wanna see what all the fuss is about purri.

and im not even gonna bother with the thresh demo :\

[Ghost9]

throughout the demo i was yelling at purri cause he was playing dumb..

lol

[Ghost9]

Did you watch the other two maps they played?

Purri wins 39-3 on dm3
Purri wins 40- -1 on dm1

[ReCycled]

Here's an oldie by him, Slikkster. Some nice rails and general domination of the map. The opponents name was Gren...nuther Swede I guess...

 

[naymlis]

if thats the same one im thinkin of recycled.. thats actually pretty new..

and ya slikk, did u watch the other 2 games he played against avi? rapppe

[reaper]

you can't win everything single game, and you can't play perfect everygame - avi had some really nice rockets too : )
and in my opinion no one could beat purri from NA , especially 2 out of 3
like ghost said, did you watch the others demos from that tournament, he played other games vs avi
if you weren't impressed, but you were by tastyspleen players, i would watch the game where he gets the invuln rail at dm3, pretty impressive game if you ask me
http://q2.rulez.pl/ds
stop vs somebody from the euroq2league i think

[inhuman]

i justed watched the purri vs gren demo and i have to say that is some unbelievable gameplay...

Gren had no chance. I dont know if it was the constant pressure applied by purri or if it was the predictability of gren... but to these newbie eyes, gren made way too many mistakes.

as i dont play DM, i was wondering if that demo was edited in any way in terms of speed? Purri was bunnyhopping so fast it seemed like everything was in fast forward.

or maybe i just have to start to learn how to bunnyhop lol 

[daelmun]

the latter 

[Slikkster]

To those who've asked, no, I haven't gotten around to watching the other demos from that match.  (embarrassed to say) I thought the demo that followed the first game was just a "loop", so I just stopped it.  Will try to watch them later.

When I mentioned TS players being able to be competitive with Purri (based on that avi match), I was thinking of guys like Elysium, Ax2Grind, etc.  I can imagine Naymlis and Daelmun, easily, too, although I haven't seen you guys play.  Your reputation precedes you, however, as mentioned quite frequently here. 

[haunted]

comparing tastyspleen ffa'ers with purri is like comparing dingleberries with diamonds 

[Punk_FAS]

One thing I notice about Purri, is he always seems to have LAN-like ping, like 15 or so.  Surely that helps him with the flick shots, rail especially, etc.  Not that he's not totally amazing anyway, but ping that low (specially when your opponent doesn't have a similar ping) helps noticeably.  Lucky bastard, wish I could ping that low on a public server (and no, I don't think I'd be anywhere near as good as him even if I did have that kinda ping).

[soso]

Were you around when he came to the us servers and gave our best players a nice anal probe?

[Punk_FAS]

I have a demo of him vs. Flarez.  Flarez was actually ahead for a little bit, then at the last moment or so, Purri tied it up at 6 all, then Purri dominated in overtime.  I think the final score was 11 to 5 (flarez cratered once I think).  Flarez held his own quite well though.

Though Purri was pinging 140's, and Flarez 90's.

[Slikkster]

comparing tastyspleen ffa'ers with purri is like comparing dingleberries with diamonds

All I know is this:  the more you immortalize/deify someone, the less you ever have a chance to be competitive with them.  Look, it just happened again in college hoops.  George Mason University (who?????) beats number 1 seed UCONN.  Their secret? Play fearlessly.  Believe they can win, particularly when no one expects them to.  Who was the so-called "better" team?  Who had the most innate skill?  Kind of hard to suggest it was George Mason.  They lost in the regular season to teams like Hofstra (twice). 

Anyone...I say again...ANYONE can be beaten/supplanted.  It always happens.  Someone sets the bar, and someone else comes along and tops it.  All you Purri fans have to agree with me on that point, as you're so quick to say that Purri would kick Thresh's butt in a match.  Thresh was the first that I know of to be considered to the unbeatable one.  But now, lots of people seem to think his skills would pale in comparison to Purri's.  Bar set, bar (seemingly) topped.  Human nature.

You could be the one to do it.  If you believe, that is.  Or, you could continue to just lionize someone and impart how untouchable they are. 

It won't be me playing the role of dragon slayer.  I'm not in to competitive Q2 like that.  Never have been.   I've never even watched a tournament event.  I'm just a run, point, and shoot Q2 fool who  plays a little until the little lady gets home.   

But obviously some of you that play here ARE into Q2  that way.  Stop selling yourselves short.  I see plenty of skillz here from a select group of players at TS.  Who the hell was "avi", anyway?  Get it?

The power of belief.  Either use it, or make excuses why you can't.  Your call.