If Quake was made TODAY...

[FirebirdTN]

Okay, so I know its Quake 1 and not Quake 2, but I still found it funny as hell...

Am I the only one who thinks old games (Especially Quake 2)>ANY new game out there???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZtBCpo0eU

-Alan

[ImperiusDamian]

Quake II owns all later games IMO. *Including* Q3.

[fdrjk]

Old(ish?) video, but I don't exactly see your point. Most people I know who think like that just trash "new" games because they haven't played them. I don't know about you, but I've had a blast playing Halo 3 with a bunch of my friends. It's just a different kind of game than Quake.

[FirebirdTN]

Old(ish?) video, but I don't exactly see your point. Most people I know who think like that just trash "new" games because they haven't played them. I don't know about you, but I've had a blast playing Halo 3 with a bunch of my friends. It's just a different kind of game than Quake.

What the hell....I'll bite...

First off, sorry if its been reposted.  I lurk ALOT, rarely post, but I have not seen it here b4.

Anyway, I'm not saying there aren't any GOOD newish games...One of my favorite Xbox games was indeed Halo.  I have also enjoyed Farcry, and some of the newer UT series.  Truth be told, to stay on the bleeding edge of PC gaming is an expensive hobby-so I haven't tried the *latest* and greatest, because I quit trying to "keep up with the Jones'" in the PC department long ago.  I'm showing my age here, but I have watched my oldest step son play the latest games on Xbox360.  I've even tried a game or two.  He's even bought me a few, but I just can't get into it.  In the console department, I just can't deal with a controller.  If I could have hooked up a mouse and keyboard, I *might* have at least been somewhat competitive, instead of just an extra easy target Heh.

In the PC realm of things, yeah some of the new games look cool, but I can't really pin it down, but they just don't "feel" right.  I don't know what it is....poor gameplay?  rehashed storylines, or uninteresting ones.  I dunno.  They just don't have that "something special" about them.  Quake2 to ME anyway, is something special.  Maybe its all just because Q2 was just released after I completed my very first PC (grew up on commodore).

In any case, that utube video has a LOT of truth to it...All the damn splash screens, limited tweaking ability, the stupid interruptions for hints...true story!

-Alan

[fdrjk]

I'm showing my age here, but I have watched my oldest step son play the latest games on Xbox360.  I've even tried a game or two.  He's even bought me a few, but I just can't get into it. 

That's fine; everybody has their opinion on games. There's no correct answer to what games you like. I can't stand people who go out of their way to act like other peoples' taste in games are just flat out wrong.

Personally, I couldn't get into COD that much because I found it kinda boring. Kinda weird how people classify Halo and COD together since I think Halo is a lot more interesting than COD.

In the console department, I just can't deal with a controller.

Arthritis? ?

I don't know what it is....poor gameplay?  rehashed storylines, or uninteresting ones.  I dunno.

I never really had a problem with gameplay, but c'mon. Quake II just had a space marine going to defeat a bunch of aliens. I don't think it gets as rehashed as that, especially since they repeated the same story for each of the expansions.

[[BTF] Reflex]

I remember this..   Might have been shout-boxed instead of a post.

Was actually just thinking about this when I saw a comaprison between a paid copy of a movie and a pirate copy.

[Barton]

FirebirdTN: That's probably because you're too use to and enjoy death match shooters. Here's a few reasons why

Console shooters are hella slow. Most of them don't even run at 60fps. Even control-wise, the game feels slow, as you rotate 360 degrees like a battle tank, and also these games lack technical movement mechanics (e.g. rocket jumping, strafe and/or double jumping). Dual analog joysticks even with the slight auto aim present in most console shooters, still are a bad replacement for a keyboard and mouse. And in most of those games, they don't really have traditional items or powerups, so you lose the more interesting aspects of map control. In COD, you unlock the "powerups" by getting long killstreaks. So you see players in that game either camp in one region or they have specific routes where they can get easier frags or spawn kills. It's really boring to watch someone do that in COD.

[The Happy Friar]

Modern games focus to much on story.  Serious Sam 3 is one of my favorite recent games, but I loved Portal too (hated the load times.. come on!)  Yeah, portal had a good story but it was fun to play.    I remember playing CoD 1 and love it, CoD 2 felt like a complete rehash except for the USA missions.  I didn't play again until MW2 and that was pretty fun.  I don't play them MP though.  Last game (besides Q2) that I played a decent MP game was DNF, and that has some sweet mp. 

Everything's to balanced for my tastes, to generic. 


BTW, I've only played Halo 1 and LOVED it.  It reminded me of Doom.  Basically, I'd say it was doom, but with aliens instead of demons & nicer graphics.     I played it on PC and, unlike Unreal based games (not sure why) I didn't feel "light" and "floppy".  Quake based games (I know halo wasn't) seem to "feel" more solid to me.

I like that video, I find it pretty funny.    I know it's an exaggeration and it's not being cruel (seem on Youtube every "gamer" who makes a video about a game does nothing but point out flaws, swear like a pimple faced teen & have a stupid accent).

[VaeVictis]

i can agree, halo single player is fun... and the multiplayer is just lawl fun to have with friends, idk how people can compete in that shit... its such a joke to take it seriously since you move like you are on the moon

cod and stuff play better on the console because no one can fuckin aim but overall, are just the same thing redone every few years with a little more shiny... they lack depth, and overall are much easier to get good at than any arena style shooter

gamers these days just like to bitch if something is hard... playing a beta game right now, and every other thread on their forums is "this is op'd" "this needs to be buffed" "why is this mechanic so broken!?" its ridiculous.... you get in the SAME PAGE, 2 threads saying something is OP and 2 threads saying the exact same thing is too under powered to be useful...

Good ol' quake2, we just kick those people in the nuts who gives a shit if something is OP, learn to play... we still play with 100 damage rail, and 100 health on spawn lol

not to mention that noobs these days can't handle leading shots... I know even I bitched when I started q2 cause I was used to cpma's tweaked all to hell netcode, but learning to lead my shots has made me a better player in just about any first person shooter and its not really THAT hard... most people now would rather just quit a game saying its broken then learn to fucking aim

even carmack has looked at games in the past and said they are quite difficult and people used to be masochists


You will never again see shooters as good as quake or doom... You can still get good arena shooters, and a few have come out in the past couple years, but no where near the quality they used to be

[fdrjk]

Your definition of "good" is probably a little bit different than the majority of the population.

[quadz]

Someone (mir^mortal ?) posted a similar vid to IRC recently:

"If DOOM were done today: Call of DOOty II: Green Ops"

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Modern games focus to much on story.

Ja; personally I'm fine with backstory, but once in-game I prefer not to be interrupted with vignettes or cutscenes or even having it take control of my character to witness some scripted event.

Admittedly I lean toward sandbox games anyway.

I really liked the initial island map of the first Crysis game.  There were a few mission objectives, but it was mosly you and the terrain.  You could explore in any direction; most every tree, shrub, building, and vehicle could be destroyed.  No freaking corridors.  One of my favorite moments was while I was scoping out a potentially difficult frontal assault on a compound: at one point I ventured near the water and some enemies in a speedboat started firing on me.  I managed to take cover and snipe them, then swam out and commandeered their boat, and used it to navigate to the back side of the aforementioned compound, allowing me stealthy access to my objective.  After which I went back to the boat and had fun spraying the place with the boat's machine gun, listening to the alarams sound and watching them try to scramble their defenses.

Good ol' quake2, we just kick those people in the nuts who gives a shit if something is OP, learn to play... 

Or DayZ.  Minimal backstory, zero plot: Spawn in a brutal world with a box of painkillers, a bandage and a flashlight. Enjoy.

[The Happy Friar]

"If DOOM were done today: Call of DOOty II: Green Ops"

That's actually a very cool feature rich doom engine. 

Ja; personally I'm fine with backstory, but once in-game I prefer not to be interrupted with vignettes or cutscenes or even having it take control of my character to witness some scripted event.

By "story" I mean they focus to much on telling us a story vs letting us play a game.   I like to compare HL1 & HL2: HL1 let you learn the story while you played: from what AI would tell you while you're walking by them, game chapter names, etc.  HL2 stopped the game and made you listen to speeches to continue.  Very boring.

[quadz]

Ja; personally I'm fine with backstory, but once in-game I prefer not to be interrupted with vignettes or cutscenes or even having it take control of my character to witness some scripted event.

By "story" I mean they focus to much on telling us a story vs letting us play a game.   I like to compare HL1 & HL2: HL1 let you learn the story while you played: from what AI would tell you while you're walking by them, game chapter names, etc.  HL2 stopped the game and made you listen to speeches to continue.  Very boring.

Yep, I was agreeing with you (and indeed had been thinking about HL1 vs. HL2 as well while composing my earlier post.)

[haunted]

this concept is feasible to thrive through projects like q2world... I wish I played more q2w and gave jayd more feedback like I used to.. maybe when the dm3/dm8/ztn3 remakes are ready to be in the mix i'll be more inclined to do so.

[quadz]

That's actually a very cool feature rich doom engine. 

Here's a fun one:

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VpdzGkSH96Y/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VpdzGkSH96Y"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/VpdzGkSH96Y" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/VpdzGkSH96Y</a>

Installed it last night and played a few levels. Actually brought a grin to my face a few times.


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