Author Topic: Razor = Banned (Read 47805 times)

[BTF]Sigma · « **Reply #60 on:** July 08, 2012, 07:58:01 PM »

Quote from: quadz on July 08, 2012, 07:32:18 PM

Quote from: Golgo13 on July 08, 2012, 06:47:39 PM
If your paying console for your server then i can see the frustration.

It used to be a paid server back in 2008 / 2009 (paid for by p1, not ruiner.)

My general policy is to provide free shell accounts & servers for Q2 mod developers, and since ruiner has been actively developing the weapons mod, I stopped sending invoices to p1. Thus, the server has been provided for free since November 2009.

In any case, I'm a bit confused about ruiner's ranting, since he already has FULL CONTROL over the whale server. He has direct access to the server config, and the logfiles, rcon password, etc.

No decision the TS admins make with regard to Fader, has any effect on ruiner's already-existing ability to ban players from whale.

So I'm a little perplexed about the level of histrionics on display in this thread.

P.S.

Quote from: Sgt. Dick on July 08, 2012, 07:17:37 PM
Fader - you just need to stop posting. The last thing I want to see from you is your comments followed by smiley's. If I ran this place you would be banned from this forum also.

Fader's forum posting ability was suspended earlier this afternoon (probably for the duration of his ban.)

GET BACK TO WORKING ON THAT DEADLINE!!!

peewee_RotA · « **Reply #61 on:** July 08, 2012, 08:56:05 PM »

Quote from: [BTF]Sigma on July 08, 2012, 07:58:01 PM

GET BACK TO WORKING ON THAT DEADLINE!!!

Well that line is about as dead as it can be

[BTF]Sigma · « **Reply #62 on:** July 08, 2012, 09:13:49 PM »

Pffft..... it can be brought back.

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #63 on:** July 08, 2012, 09:34:13 PM »

We can make him better, stronger, faster.

r1 · « **Reply #64 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:15:06 PM »

You think I asked for any of this?

Don't get me wrong, I also appreciate what quadz is doing! But I've once and for all had it with Fader's bullshit, and I don't want to ever see that little prick causing mischief on any server or forum in the future. If only quadz was tougher on repeat offenders we wouldn't be in this mess to being with. Fader consciously chose to do what he did, always pushing the limits of patience, nobody forced him! This is wasting everyone's time and affecting us all and he's solely responsible for getting us into this predicament once again, so why not deal with him effectively this time? I know everyone's busy and wishes to spend their time more constructively, why not do that? I'm certainly suggesting exactly this. But I also know it'll be kind of hard to do in the future when you have trolls on the prowl with only one thing on their mind. How many times was he told not to get scripts from Razor or much less associate with him? He knew the risks, he did it anyway, so shouldn't he join his pal on the other side this time? In my opinion this time there's only one solution to deal with this problem effectively, but ultimately it'll be up to quadz. A ban is surely a step in the right direction, so thanks for that!

[BTF]Sigma · « **Reply #65 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:21:37 PM »

Where's the proof on your accusation against Yahoo? Either present it or rescind the accusation.

r1 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:28:35 PM »

Quote from: [BTF]Sigma on July 08, 2012, 10:21:37 PM

Where's the proof on your accusation against Yahoo? Either present it or rescind the accusation.

I'd have to look through the logs, because it was so long ago. I clearly recall overhearing him say things about spawn girl and the Xatrix situation back in the day to make it suggest that he was directly involved in all of that mess as well. Certainly the part that helped drive spawn girl over the edge, spinning and stirring shit, just shortly before the collapse of the Xatrix community! Ever since then I can't help but see him as a no good double crosser. At one time he could be on your good side, pretending to be all nice and friendly, on the other, he'll be stabbing you in the back and talking shit behind your back. He plays both sides, and it was evident he was doing that with Spawn girl back then, and it later also because obvious he was doing that to me as well, in order to feed the trolls. Believe it or not, there was a time I trusted him, and we even had some conversations! But all of a sudden he showed his true colors, when stuff I told him mysteriously ended up in Fader's armory.

Quote from: TPB

Birds of a shitfeather flock together

[BTF]Sigma · « **Reply #67 on:** July 08, 2012, 10:56:07 PM »

Quote from: your conscience on July 08, 2012, 10:28:35 PM

Quote from: [BTF]Sigma on July 08, 2012, 10:21:37 PM
Where's the proof on your accusation against Yahoo? Either present it or rescind the accusation.

I'd have to look through the logs, because it was so long ago. I clearly recall overhearing him say things about spawn girl and the Xatrix situation back in the day to make it suggest that he was directly involved in all of that mess as well. Certainly the part that helped drive spawn girl over the edge, spinning and stirring shit, just shortly before the collapse of the Xatrix community! Ever since then I can't help but see him as a no good double crosser. At one time he could be on your good side, pretending to be all nice and friendly, on the other, he'll be stabbing you in the back and talking shit behind your back. He plays both sides, and it was evident he was doing that with Spawn girl back then, and it later also because obvious he was doing that to me as well, in order to feed the trolls. Believe it or not, there was a time I trusted him, and we even had some conversations! But all of a sudden he showed his true colors, when stuff I told him mysteriously ended up in Fader's armory.

Well IIRC the whole Spawngirl thing spiraled out of control on her end. She got teased for her overreactions and shit talking. She was arbitrarily banning people from her server simply because they were contradicting her, only to turn around and play the victim card. She was abusive and got dealt with. Another thing was the language barrier. Oh and the FBI threats, and posting people's info on a site created solely for attacking them where they could not defend themselves.

The actions people have taken, you call trolling, have actually been quite an effective way of rooting out the people who cause more noise than good (these threads end up in entropy). Usually it's self-righteous "good" guys shining up their badges and trying to effect some change that they see as being the correct way to resolving the issue. Instead of taking a mature stance against it by rationalizing their POVs, these people "get offended" that nobody gives a shit about them and after a heavy night of crying under their bed while listening to Adele they begin to attack the very community they've set out to do right by.

Keep a level head with all your chatter and you'll be okay. You've been teetering on the edge of being labelled another self-righteous fanatic. Fuck, even looking at how you changed your profile name to "your conscience" is awfully pretentious and quite presumptuous of you, don't you think? Especially after your ranting and incoherent arguments over your faith.

Sit the next few rounds out and recover your composure.

r1 · « **Reply #68 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:11:03 PM »

Quote from: [BTF]Sigma on July 08, 2012, 10:56:07 PM

The actions people have taken, you call trolling, have actually been quite an effective way of rooting out the people who cause more noise than good (these threads end up in entropy). Usually it's self-righteous "good" guys shining up their badges and trying to effect some change that they see as being the correct way to resolving the issue. Instead of taking a mature stance against it by rationalizing their POVs, these people "get offended" that nobody gives a shit about them and after a heavy night of crying under their bed while listening to Adele they begin to attack the very community they've set out to do right by.

I for one believe spawn girl started out with the right intentions, and at one point was contributing more than anyone on the Xatrix community, until a certain unnamed group of trolls just drove her over the edge. That's my honest opinion and take from various sources I've sampled including yahoo. I'm not questioning or doubting that she was fragile and impulsive, given the circumstances. And since, you asked me, I gave you a response. And as far as yahoo is concerned, once a shady double crosser always a double crosser, I know first hand cause he did it to me as well! Everyone's free to have their opinions and beliefs, and have different abilities to judge character. As far as my nickname is concerned, I just didn't bother to change it yet since then. So don't bring faith into it once again cause I doubt you have any. Also I thought this thread was about Razor and Fader, and was about wrapped up until you started asking more questions?

r1 · « **Reply #69 on:** July 08, 2012, 11:25:01 PM »

OK whatever! People can decide what they want, and take it with a grain of salt. I know what I've experienced!
Anyway, I'm done arguing about this, since it was not the original intent of this thread!

ex · « **Reply #70 on:** July 09, 2012, 12:42:25 AM »

It seems you didn't learn anything from that giant thread we had, ruiner. I learned plenty from you and about you, as I'm sure others did, but with comments like "So don't bring faith into it once again cause I doubt you have any" shows that nothing was learned on your part. Why would you be this pretentious, just assuming that you're higher than someone else because you assume they don't have faith? This is disappointing.

But not as disappointing as Fader. I know you can still read this Fader, and I told you you were close to getting banned from all the ts servers. I didn't realize it was going to be the merely 3 hours later, however.

Once again, Fader, STOP ASSOCIATING WITH RAZOR!!! It's going to seriously fuck you over soon! And this will have nothing to do with ruiner's wishes, it will have to do with you continuing your attacks/hacking. Stop now.

adz1La · « **Reply #71 on:** July 09, 2012, 01:06:52 AM »

inhuman would have loved fader

r1 · « **Reply #72 on:** July 09, 2012, 01:51:53 AM »

I can't believe I'm wasting my time with this bullshit! Proving this and proving that, why bother?

Quote from: ex on July 09, 2012, 12:42:25 AM

It seems you didn't learn anything from that giant thread we had, ruiner. I learned plenty from you and about you, as I'm sure others did, but with comments like "So don't bring faith into it once again cause I doubt you have any" shows that nothing was learned on your part. Why would you be this pretentious, just assuming that you're higher than someone else because you assume they don't have faith? This is disappointing.

Good! I'm glad to disappoint you! I'd be a mistake to learn much about Faith and God but only of it's non-existence in the hearts and minds of a bunch of atheists and feeble god impostering satanist(s). I already knew what to expect going into that discussion, just not of its wide extent! Once I have ascertained all that, the lesson was over. Some people will just not believe until they see or feel something first hand, so lets just drop that thread.

Quote from: ex on July 09, 2012, 12:42:25 AM

But not as disappointing as Fader. I know you can still read this Fader, and I told you you were close to getting banned from all the ts servers. I didn't realize it was going to be the merely 3 hours later, however.

Once again, Fader, STOP ASSOCIATING WITH RAZOR!!! It's going to seriously fuck you over soon! And this will have nothing to do with ruiner's wishes, it will have to do with you continuing your attacks/hacking. Stop now.

As far as there being proof of the Razor directly implicating Axal/Fader on account of basically telling him what to say and do, it does indeed exist for you to see, since you wouldn't have it any other way. Show must go on? I'll be sending a longer version to quadz, with more bullshit in it. This is just a small excerpt, but this went on for hours, so you can only guess what other trademark bs Fader talked Razor into regurgitating on the server for him. Anyway here it is since you must see to believe, unlike other things I'll no longer care to prove to you:

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[2012-07-07 18:34] z: heheh heheh heheh heheh
[2012-07-07 18:34] z: heheh heheh heheh heheh
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:34] z: heheh heheh heheh heheh
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).

[2012-07-07 18:34] Fatal Error
*****************************
Server fatal crashed: Couldn't allocate dedicated server IP port on. Another application is probably using it.
*****************************
Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:34] z: axal says, how's it going, foxbutthacker? heheh <=== Razor/Axal playing Simon says? ...he didn't put him up to it, really?
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh). <=== Axal/Fader using kiddy Script with 1337 port to flood the rcon.
[2012-07-07 18:34] z: axal says, how's it going, foxbutthacker? heheh
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd). <=== Razor using same kiddy Script with 1337 port as Axal in an endless spam of the rcon.
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:34] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:35] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:35] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:35] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).

...

[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:37] NET_GetPacket: Connection refused from 65.98.84.18:27930 <=== Fader's other NJ IP?
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:37] NET_GetPacket: Connection refused from 65.98.84.18:27930

...
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:37] z: i found a good dll
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:37] z: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/xxxwallhack.zip <=== Few minutes later on the same map
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:37] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).

...

[2012-07-07 18:38] z: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/xxxwallhack.zip
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] NET_GetPacket: Connection refused from 65.98.84.18:27930
[2012-07-07 18:38] NET_GetPacket: Connection refused from 65.98.84.18:27930
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] NET_GetPacket: Connection refused from 65.98.84.18:27930
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
z: good dll

...
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] NET_GetPacket: Connection refused from 65.98.84.18:27930
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] mother goose: kick him
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] z connected
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] z entered the game
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] ENDtheFED: man this server is fcked up <=== Players loosing patience
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] z: http://xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/xxxwallhack.zip
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] z: good link
[2012-07-07 18:38] mother goose: now!ya
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 69.251.11.222:1337[] (yousuck heheh).
[2012-07-07 18:38] Bad rcon from 212.116.74.214:1337[z] (yousuck xd).

Quote from: yahoo on July 08, 2012, 11:30:00 PM

Quote from: r1 on July 08, 2012, 11:11:03 PM
once a shady double crosser always a double crosser, I know first hand cause he did it to me as well!

My spidey sense detected that Razor had doubled crossed you.

I never had any beef with Razor, since basically I didn't even know who he was. I was never warned about his reputation until long after Axal brought him around, probably in the attempt to entrap me last year. Had I known, I doubt I'd even waste my time with him. Well... Fader knew all along, and all about it, and he still chose to do what he did. In Fader's twisted logic my run in with Razor only served to solidify his relationship with Razor in order to yet again use him against me, as the logs prove.

Anyway, as you can clearly see, they're both sharing the same LEET kiddy script to flood rcon, and also the references to "Axal says this or that" on multiple occasions. If that's not saying Fader put him up to it, while being directly responsible, I don't know what is? Am I missing something, isn't Axal... Fader? It came straight from horses mouth, and since Fader has since basically admitted it, faced with overwhelming evidence of both their IP's being intertwatted all over the logs for many hours. How stupid can they be? They thought this wasn't going to get out? Maybe Fader saw this as a priceless opportunity to get back at me for banning him, one that was too irresistible to miss, knowing he'd only get another temp ban? There were also attempts of Fader trying to connect using multiple IP's from NJ which were blocked. Plus he admitted to closely tracking all of this finger licking juicy action on IRC. Don't kid yourself his fingers were all over it, wearing Razor like a sock puppet!

Here you have Razor using "axal says" and Fader's trademark "heheh". I'm not going to post the other shit said, to give these trolls the satisfaction. Quadz can read it if he likes to. One thing's for sure, I have no doubt that Fader put Razor up to it, and masterminded this attack, not Razor who I didn't do anything to piss off. Axal was behind this, and if this short to the point excerpt doesn't prove that, I don't know what will? Perhaps quadz's longer version? I've never even seen Razor on my server before this, all of a sudden here you have him shit talking and acting like Fader addressing people he doesn't even know, while at the same time both of them are using the same kiddy Script with 1337 port to flood the rcon for hours.

peewee_RotA · « **Reply #73 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:14:10 AM »

Quote from: r1 on July 09, 2012, 01:51:53 AM

until long after Axal brought him around

So you're saying that you had no problem until Axal rose the issue?

r1 · « **Reply #74 on:** July 09, 2012, 03:25:35 AM »

OK, Lets not get things confused here. So let me clarify that statement...
I had two run-ins with Razor, this rude one yesterday, and the one last year. Both ended with nothing but trouble. At the time I didn't know who he was, nor about his notorious reputation on TS. But both times I sort of suspected Fader being involved, initially I just had no proof. I figured I check out what this kid knew and where he got it, that's about the extent of my involvement with him. I'm an admin after all, and I must know where some of these new hacks originate. I think I might have also submitted my findings to quadz. Once I heard what I wanted to hear, I cut all ties, and washed my hands. To me razor confirmed that he was a simple minded middle man, getting hacks from 3rd party eastern European TDM script kiddies. He's not smart enough to write one though. It's nothing new, and I've seen his kind before on various servers, trying to impress the wrong people. He's the short attention span emo type that will keep running into the same wall, and not learn unless banned. My biggest concern was Fader at the time, and after those two pms I just stopped replying to Razor, never doing anything to piss him off though. I certainly didn't expect this, unless of course Fader was pulling the strings, and sure enough...

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