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what do you guys think?
« on: June 25, 2012, 05:46:23 PM »
...just posting these out of curiosity and for community opinion

...I think this Jack Schitter person plays quite a bit under many different aliases...valid ac...

...movement looks a bit jerky, but I'm definitely no expert on reviewing demos...the one thing that is ususual is the sometimes very high fph with high rail and ssg usage and with such a high ping...anyways, just wanted some opinions...
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Re: what do you guys think?
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2012, 06:09:45 PM »
his movements are kinda stiff but seems legit. hes got a lot of luck shots though
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2012, 06:58:11 PM »
2nd demo looked a little weird, but if anything the first demo kinda backed up the fact that there's nothing solid in the demo. the only way he could be using a bot, is if it was configured horribly. so, yeah, I doubt he's using one. did you aclist him?
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Re: what do you guys think?
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2012, 07:47:53 PM »
...thanks for looking guys...he showed ac valid...

...I've just been curious about him because I think he plays a lot, constantly changes aliases and gets consistently high fph with high ping...and there are not too many that do that on dm...
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 10:53:47 AM »
well, he could very well be.. I wouldn't put it past someone to have a bot that's configured badly like I suggested. here's an example: http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=9382.0 (160ms v. bot not configured well + wh from 4 years ago..shout-outs to Cheeta)

..but, if he's getting past AC then he's going to know how to set the fov of a bot.
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Re: what do you guys think?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 02:02:36 PM »
...just posting these out of curiosity and for community opinion

...I think this Jack Schitter person plays quite a bit under many different aliases...valid ac...

...movement looks a bit jerky, but I'm definitely no expert on reviewing demos...the one thing that is ususual is the sometimes very high fph with high rail and ssg usage and with such a high ping...anyways, just wanted some opinions...

No cheat. His aiming is fairly consistent for someone with a high ping, mostly when he misses.

here is a short demo i had laying around he was aliasing as "fishies" at the time. what caught my eye was the crosshair snapping/jerking. you can see this when he is on the stairs leading up to YA then the most noticeable one is the last rail shot near the corner stairs just before heading towards the SSG

No cheat.
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Re: what do you guys think?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 03:58:13 PM »
perkynana doesnt cheat.
i allways know when its him, and he uses ac all the time.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2012, 04:12:51 PM »
It has been proven that AC is hackable to show AC valid with a cheat enabled.  I believe shithead Razor caused that little problem.

Usually if someone's hacking though, it's going to be pretty obvious rather than a maybe scenario.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 04:14:43 PM »
perkynana doesnt cheat.
i allways know when its him, and he uses ac all the time.

He may not be cheating currently, but he's tried repeatedly over the years.

http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=122.57.24.24
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=222.152.7.110
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=222.152.29.181
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=222.152.24.205

Considering what AC has caught him with, and certain recently discovered workaround methods, I'd be more inclined to think that if anything he's walling. These demos don't really seem to show it though.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2012, 04:19:38 PM »
It has been proven that AC is hackable to show AC valid with a cheat enabled. 

those screenies and demos of someone botting with ac are very old.
i dont believe it still works
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 04:24:11 PM »
The original demos haunted posted are quite old I believe, but there are newer workarounds.  Plus if you think a new update to AC can't be worked around, you are highly mistaken.  I remember a guy who would make a workaround for his wallhack client the day of the latest anticheat update (NoCheat at the time I believe).
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 04:28:14 PM »
the demos from a while back of an aimbot working were real, but the method used to achieve them was incredibly limitted and looks worse than a high fov ratbot because the person who borrowed that method from another game is a fucktard who can't write his own code.

getting a wallhack past has always been a lot less difficult than an aimbot, for various reasons, yet all of them get caught eventually.

ps: watched the demos a couple times now, and he has funky mousing movements where he consistently swings the xhair back and forth horizontally like an insta player to cover the target. I would bet on a different sensitivity bound to his hitscan wep switching binds to achieve that.
nothing in these demos screams aimbot to me, although the high damage ssg flicks on dm1 were from a pretty long distance. if he was doing that all the time, and missing less rails I might wonder.

the cg hits on match1 were prolly a fluke, and the guys he hosed down with it were moving in 1 direction steadily. it's not impossible to do at that ping, just tougher.
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