koldduel1 jumps

[Muerte]

Yes, I did. The title is misleading. My original aim was to show jumps that might be less known to others. Good to know about the other jump though.

yeh this nice presentation for USA scene but,
koldduel1 was most popular in Russia (i guess u don't visit Russian scene often)

unfortunate no koldduel1 tricks on q2scene.net but Russian player detina
made this koldduel1 demo back in 2008
he using mostly strafe witch is opposite your circle-strafe combination (both ways r works for me)

[haunted]

"a nice presentation for the usa scene".......Lol?

Some newbie shit for all us dumb americans to understand, right?

Barton was asking for help/opinions you half-wit.

[Muerte]

"a nice presentation for the usa scene".......Lol?

im only dumb here (because my engrish sux) :p

this Barton demos r nice reminder because if u check most of EDL demos except Russian's noone using fast jumps to YA
everyone using that platform on right and become railable from  YA lift
on DS scene forum was thread about koldduel1 map during beta testing (before mega changed RA i before spawn spot moved in "safe position"
standing near YA lift PURRI changed koldduel1 2 aero with spawn raping
dunno if i have all beta revision to play that 'scary' demos
there is plenty of koldduel1 demos on DS http://q2scene.net/ds/index.php?op=sd&p1=&p2=T&c1=and&p3=koldduel1&p4=M&idc=0

PS dont talk about smth i didn't want to say
 because i don't care about nations just about skill and fair play

[haunted]

Alright fine, I'm sorry.. it's hard to tell sometimes. It seemed a little like that other comment you made in mm2 a week ago, saying adrenaline is "very good for not having any good people to play against". I guess that wasn't in regard to nations either though, and maybe I took a little extra offense to that comment because he likely duels me more than anyone else.

[Muerte]

(Muerte): nah adren : your only disadventage is : u dont have strong oponents in usa to pracc

my point was same as for DaHang meaning:

on USA servers u play without timers and without official leagues for years for fun and for frag

Damiah, Provi, Syanid TOP EDL players played each other for years using also as sparing partners:
thaigo
gerppa (3rd EDL 3rd EDGE league)
Dimmo (4th EDL)
Turricane (4th EDL his monitor died during lb game for 3rd place or better)
Slippi
Offi
Jakkari
raskal
hibry
Digital
FutaR

PURRI in other hand used his team mates and other much lower skilled players for practicing
that's why he didn't won EDL since EDL1 until Damiah stop playing seriously

to practice  seriously u need strong opponent not just good

comparing to this EDL
slippi play Syanid (2nd / 3rd EDL several times)
Welkin play IsBjorn
Numavezi play IsBjorn

Purri played few warmup games with Hibry/Pogo before last match because he didn't play several weeks...

i was 100% convinced Adrenaline could won welkin even if he have one map disadvantage  before start (q2dm2)
but welkin out timed Adrenaline on aero got w/o on dm2 and got lucky on z3
was to hard for Adrenaline to play with 80-100ms disadvantage 
i based my opinion watching Adrenaline movement in previous games live or on demos and how he won Michaq even with that weird admin Norman decision about 3rd map/server choice = Michaq even if he lost 2 maps in row got to chose server and map...

about skill : when i 1st played vs Damiah official game i couldn't get weapon/mh/armor for 13min he outtimed me completely
for me that was sign i must use timers to improve my game
because there is 2 ways to win
1. out-skill opponent with aim and win controlling player
2. timer control items and rule on map and win will come easy

ofc there is 3rd way
make fast 1st frag and then hide for 15min like my dear friend BlaizzZZZZZ
witch "tactic" i always using when i play with ping disadvantage and way number 2 don't work :p

i just hope my engrish didn't confuse more then before
 

[Muerte]

almost forgot

PURRI had nice jump on kold in his last game

[Barton]

I appreciate mrt's input. I was actually hoping for people to give input to add.

Yeah, I never intended to post all the jumps because I suck at jumping and movement, so chances are I'd miss all possible jumps.

Plus I only posted the demos here because I figured most of the people who read this message board are North Americans, and this map is almost never played on our NA servers. For sure, I'd never post these on q2scene.net. ; )

[Muerte]

why u wouldn't post jumps on q2scene?
koldduel1 jumps missing in trick/jump section on q2scene
only reason i know about detina jumps is because i visiting quake2.pro (former quake2.com.ru) Russian q2 site on Cyrillic

its nothing wrong with your jumps, they work !

i would like to see The_$king$ jumps on koldduel1