Dealing with the youth of today in public places

[[BTF]adam]

What up, today I encountered something that I have encountered before but not quite to this degree of irritation, I actually ended up leaving this place because I was legit so powerless to really do anything.

What i'm talking about of course, is the incredulously disrespectful, borderline scummy kids that populate places like skateparks, parks, street corners and whatnot. I don't know if this is a fundamentally British thing, but there are a certain subclass of kids that are notoriously bad for antisocial behaviour, we refer to them as "chavs" but really, the term is used loosely since you can bet your last penny if you visit any public place there will be plenty.

The type of things i'm talking about is that these kids, know full well that in this day and age they can practically get away with murder. They hold no respect for people older than them, the things around them and know that whatever they do, the repercussions will be minimal at best, and usually trivial. I firmly believe that they are this way because their parents are either pushovers, or are similar themselves! (gg teen pregnancy).

So onto the story of what just happened to my homie and I, and why indeed i'm making this thread to see how you guys react to situations like this and if its any different over there.

Nice day, went skating. Little skate park called Shirebrook, it's in a fairly rough area to be fair, but not so much so that you would hesistate to go there - you just know its a bit of a shitty area. A lot of polish immigrants, a lot of dole claimers. Anyway, took the bus down as you do and arrived, I had forgotten it was the school holidays and thus was rammed. I usually get around this problem by simply going when school is in session, it's deserted and wonderful!

I decided that since we were here anyway, might as well make the most of what was probably going to be a shitty session and we started sessioning, as you do. Laced a few sweety tricks, irrelevant to the story but you should know this anyway, I was killing the box with tremendous style. And then a carrot flies past me, a fucking carrot. The only carrot that did, but a carrot nonetheless, was pretty pissed and went to chill with a bottle of water on the top of the ramp. The little 'gang' that threw it were looking my way to see what i'd do and I simply bertstared:

the one who threw it and they looked away, resuming throwing of carrots at other people. At this point, I knew it was pretty much time to call the session, what I had feared would happen, has. Now you should know, these types of kids treat the place like complete shit at the best of times, littering and spilling shit and throwing food around even if they're not actively engaging in being massive cunts. Annnnnnnnyway, they start throwing these carrots all over the place breaking them up and a little carrot war breaks out, it's retarded as fuck and im sitting there saying to my buddy there is no way we were this dumb at their age. So, we gave it 10 minutes and decided to call it because it wasn't stopping any time soon, they wouldn't listen to anybody and we werent the only ones leaving. A few of the older people (like us) left, and even some of the okay kids that weren't being assholes decided to leave.

What can you do? You can't ask them to stop, they'll laugh at you and probably lob a carrot at your head. You can't threaten them, they know you won't/can't do anything and will dare you to. You can't actually do anything TO them either, one of two things will happen, either:

a) They'll get a whole bunch more people and a mini war will break out (lol!), besides, hitting a kid? Pretty low.
b) If you DO anything, the police will be involved quicker than you can say 'carrot' and you'll end up with a record or a lot worse.

They're not scared of you, they don't respect you, they don't like you, they know their parents can't control them, they know really that even police can't do much to them just for being bastards, ultimately you're stuck with a decision to put up with it or just leave, either way I hate how completely powerless I felt. They're not even intimidated like we were back in the day, if you saw a big cunt you were a little terrified when I was a kid! There's no way you'd have the audacity to THROW A GOD DAMN CARROT at him, and I am not a small fella, I can make my pecs bounce baby.

Cliffs: Fuck the shitty part of the youth of today, unlucky for those who aren't complete shitters getting dragged down by those that are! What do you do against cheeky kunts that you can't really do anything against.



 

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bertstared

Haha

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So onto the story of what just happened to my homie and I, and why indeed i'm making this thread to see how you guys react to situations like this and if its any different over there.

Well, here in USA#1 ^{(* world incarceration champion)} we recently expanded the locations in which citizens may openly carry firearms.

This solves the problem... right?




P.S. I don't visit many public places these days, aside from music / comedy clubs, movie theatres, restaraunts and such.  So I'm not very tuned in to how kids are behaving, hereabouts.

[[BTF]adam]

haha, I didn't mean to imply firearms would have anything to do with it, but the stereotype I (probably wrongly) have about places like for example, Texas or the place where Focalor lives (uh, I don't remember just seems like a hardass about life so surely the environment fits ) people wouldn't behave like this because perhaps the ideals are ground into them from an earlier age there or in general parents are better with their children?

I don't know

[[BTF]Sigma]

Call the cops. Not the emergency type stuff but the reporting line.

I do it all the time around here with the punks disrespecting my neighborhood. It's cleaned shit up around here.

Video tape them being the little shits they are, load it on youtube and post QR codes all around the block. People will see the code and scan it. When it pops up have the description in the video as to where you saw it and when. Hell even buzz by the little fucks with a decent cam, they'll pose like jackasses and BOOM you've got their face all over the neighborhood being ID'd as little shits.

Incite people in your comments to harass them and tell them off so they know that them and their attitudes aren't welcome.

(if it doesn't work or you don't feel like going full asshole about it just walk up to the "Alpha" of the group and make him clean up for everyone else. You're bigger than him, make him be responsible for his mess and let him know he's responsible for everyone's as well if that's the way he's going to behave.)

FUCK IT!!!! JUST THREATEN THE LITTLE PUNKS WITH PINK SPRAY PAINT THE NEXT TIME THEY FUCK AROUND. IF THEY DO IT AGAIN......PSSSHHHHHHHHT INSTANT BITCH IDENTIFICATION.

[haunted]

there's a fine line, adam. You don't want to hit(punch) a kid, you're right... but jeez, if some snot-nosed kid "dares" me to do something about it, I will likely give him the biggest bitch slap of his life or grab him by the hair and drag him to his parents. I'd regret it, a LITTLE, but reacting before thinking is something that I owe to a slight temperament of mine.

if you call the cops, i would lie and say that one of them hit your girlfriend in the eye with the carrot and she had to get medical help.

just a few thoughts.

[|iR|Focalor]

haha, I didn't mean to imply firearms would have anything to do with it, but the stereotype I (probably wrongly) have about places like for example, Texas or the place where Focalor lives (uh, I don't remember just seems like a hardass about life so surely the environment fits ) people wouldn't behave like this because perhaps the ideals are ground into them from an earlier age there or in general parents are better with their children?

I don't know

Hehe, well honestly right directly where my house is located is actually a pretty nice place. I live in the state of Georgia by the way. I live in a pretty expensive neighborhood with borderline Nazi neighborhood covenants that all the homeowners in the subdivision agree to when buying a house. It helps keep the undesirables out, helps keep the neighborhood looking as nice as possible, and helps keep property values up. And as redneck as I am, I do have a bit of class and pride in what my domicile looks like, I try to keep it looking as good as I can at least from the front where people will see it. It's pretty much out in the "country", so we really don't get a whole lot of crime. In Atlanta it's a VERY different story. You think a few little british kids throwing carrots around at a skate park is bad? In Atlanta, you'll have 5 black guys coked out of their minds riding the subway train and harassing people. They got cops on the trains, but they still don't fucking care, they go messing with people anyway. They'll start fights, they'll be drunk as shit and whip their dicks out and piss on people for no reason, they'll steal your baggage and shit and run off the train, sometimes they'll rape bitches if they get them alone in a train car, you name it. And I'd still say that Atlanta is much safer than places like Chicago or Detroit.

I don't make it no secret at all what MC I'm a member of, and unfortunately sometimes just wearing a 3 piece patch makes you a target for assholes who wanna see just how tough you really are. They wanna be able to go tell their friends they whooped a 1%ers ass. And what people don't understand about the lifestyle is that we aren't the type of people like a bunch of head-rag wearing gang member urban monkeys who go fucking with people for no reason. We're some of the most respectful people you'll ever meet as long as you treat us with the respect we deserve. Live and let live. But if you kick dirt on my boot, I'm gonna have nothing but your shit and blood on the end of it after I stomp it up your ass. I ain't gonna pretend like I'm some kinda Chuck Norris or Steven Segal tough guy badass because I'm not, but I'm certainly not someone to back down from anyone threatening me or trying to fuck with me in any way. That's just the law of the land and the code of the road. You let someone piss on your shoe once, and he's gonna think he can piss on it forever. And I got ZERO qualms about low-blows, fighting dirty, or fighting unfair. Whatever it takes. Maybe in high school someones just out to merely kick your ass, but in the real world you have to assume anyone with balls enough to fuck with you is out to END you and you must treat them accordingly.

Now I'm not stupid enough to go pulling out my gun on some group of kids that are merely throwing food at me, especially if I'm wearing my patch at the time. I represent my club and my club wouldn't appreciate me acting like a psychotic fucking terrorist. But I sure as hell wouldn't hesitate to get right up in their face and scream about how much I don't appreciate what they are doing. You do it well enough and they'll throw the first punch. Just be sure you have 2 credible witnesses, otherwise forget it and walk away. If there aren't any witnesses and they still wanna throw shit at you as you're walking away... well you got two choices. Either you can keep walking let them think you're just a bitch, or you can turn around and give them the beating obviously their parents never had the balls to give them (not too badly, don't want anyone calling attempted murder on you) and then run like hell, hope you avoid the cops, and never show your face in that part of town again.

I guess shit is a lot different over there in Britain though. From what I've heard, most of the police over there don't even carry sidearms. So I gotta assume that the reason they don't is because most of the people they deal with from day to day don't have guns either. But in America,... quite a different story. We love our guns. Ever since the founding of our country when we told the King of England to stick it up his ass, we've been positively OBSESSED with the damn things. Keeping that in mind, and also keeping in mind how much violent crime in general we have over here... usually kids of that age aren't quite as carefree with fucking with random people. If they do, someone usually fucks right back with them. That's just the way we do shit over here. I won't say that EVERYONE over here is completely insane, but there are a whoooooole lotta fuckin crazy people living up in this place. Keep that in mind if you ever wanna plan a nice 2 week holiday over here.

[haunted]

don't let foc fool you, he's a sweetie pie. he cried while watching titanic, then had to watch the lion king twice just to fall asleep.

[|iR|Focalor]

Nah, I usually don't have problems with people. Mostly because I'm sick to damned death of people so I stay locked in my house as much as possible. They wanna piss me off, they gotta break down the door to do it.

[Whirlingdervish]

step 1: pick up carrot
step 2: remove fruitboots
step 3: proceed into the offenders personal space
step 4: drop the carrot in their lap while looking directly into their eyes.

if they say a single word that is not "thanks" proceed to step 5.

step 5: pop them in the eye with a palm strike so their little head flaps back and smacks them between the shoulders, then calmly walk away.


In all seriousness, if nobody has yet managed to instill a sense of self preservation into the dumb little shits, you will be doing them a favor. They won't do that shit again.
 

[The Happy Friar]

Well, here in USA#1 ^{(* world incarceration champion)} we recently expanded the locations in which citizens may openly carry firearms.
This solves the problem... right?

Normally you can openly carry firearms anywhere (except private/govt property), it's the concealed ones that are debated.  Either way, normally someone's shot because of illegal activity (around here anyway).

Cliffs: Fuck the shitty part of the youth of today, unlucky for those who aren't complete shitters getting dragged down by those that are!

All you've got is proof jerks are everywhere, and, you were just like that to your elders when you were younger too.  You might not of thrown carrots but you did something equally disrespectful because you found it funny too at that age.   

[Sgt. Dick]

P.S. I don't visit many public places these days, aside from music / comedy clubs, movie theatres, restaraunts and such.  So I'm not very tuned in to how kids are behaving, hereabouts.

Have you ever had any problems at the shuffle-board courts 

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Have you ever had any problems at the shuffle-board courts 

Get off my lawn, whippersnapper!!

[ex]

What can you do?

Get on cellphone.  Call police, tell them they hit you with said carrot.  Watch them try to deny two adults vs. a gang of unruly prepubescents (more than likely some of them have active criminal records...why else would they act that way?).  Send them for a ride through the juvenile justice system.  

And if you're wondering how it fares out in the U.S., just replace the carrot with a knife being thrown around for fun.  The only good idea is to get the cops over there pronto, because that's the ONLY power adults have against those little thug wannabees.

Unless of course, you're one of those idiots who doesn't believe in calling the cops.  If you are, then you really do have no power.  

[haunted]

Get off my lawn, whippersnapper!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0