Can't see particles??

[metaL]

tried new paks and several commands. any suggestions?

[Er!c@]

what client?

i know in R1Q2
set cl_particles "0" turns rail trails off

you might have tried it. but thats all i could think of causing the issue.

[haunted]

for aprq2.

[metaL]

for aprq2 yes, but i can't see rails in any client. actually any particles at all, i have cl_particles set to 1, I've had gl_particle at both 0 and 1 but never see any.

[haunted]

you may have the size so low that they're non-existent, although present... but if you've tried it with r1q2 and it still ain't showing up then that wouldn't make sense.

set gl_particle_min_size "1"
set gl_particle_max_size "1"
set gl_particle_size "1"
set gl_particle_att_a "0.01"
set gl_particle_att_b "0.0"
set gl_particle_att_c "0.01"
set gl_particle "1"

I'm using q2starter but I have q2kicker...  I can see particles and that's what the cmds are set at, not sure if that'll help.

<+|iR|Dervish> try "cvarlist"
<+|iR|Dervish> in console
<+|iR|Dervish> condump it

could try that and have the dervinator take a peak

[metaL]

]cvarlist
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 A    adr3 "74.54.186.229:27910"
 A    adr4 "74.54.186.229:27911"
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      cl_ignoremode "1"
      cl_instantpacket "1"
      cl_lights "1"
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      cl_maptimey "0"
      cl_maxfps "90"
      cl_maxpackets "90"
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      cl_nodelta "0"
      cl_noskins "0"
      cl_particles "1"
      cl_pitchspeed "150"
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 A    cl_protocol "35"
 A    cl_run "1"
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      cl_shownet "0"
      cl_sidespeed "200"
    ? cl_smoothsteps "3"
      cl_stats "0"
      cl_stereo "0"
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      cl_testblend "0"
      cl_testentities "0"
C     cl_testlights "0"
      cl_testparticles "0"
 A    cl_textcolors "0"
      cl_timeout "120"
 A    cl_timestamps "0"
      cl_timestampsformat "[%H:%M:%S]"
      cl_upspeed "200"
 A    cl_vwep "1"
 A    cl_winamp_dir "C:/Program Files/Winamp"
 A    cl_winampmessages "1"
      cl_wsfov "1"
      cl_yawspeed "140"
 A    con_alpha "0.6"
      con_cmdcomplete "2"
      con_mwheel "1"
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 A    con_notifylines "4"
      con_notifytime "3"
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    L coop "0"
 A    crosshair "1"
    L deathmatch "0"
      debuggraph "0"
    N dedicated "0"
      developer "0"
   S  dmflags "16"
C     fixedtime "0"
 AU   fov "100"
   S  fraglimit "0"
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 A    fs_allpakloading "1"
      fs_developer "0"
    ? g_select_empty "0"
   SL game ""
   SN gamedir ""
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 A  L gl_3dlabs_broken "1"
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 A    gl_celshading_width "4"
      gl_clear "0"
 A  L gl_coloredlightmaps ".4"
      gl_cull "1"
 A    gl_decals "1"
 A    gl_decals_max "256"
 A    gl_decals_time "30"
      gl_drawbuffer "GL_BACK"
 A  L gl_driver "opengl32"
      gl_dynamic "1"
      gl_eff_world_bg_color_b "255"
      gl_eff_world_bg_color_g "255"
      gl_eff_world_bg_color_r "255"
C     gl_eff_world_bg_type "0"
      gl_eff_world_lines_color_b "0"
      gl_eff_world_lines_color_g "255"
      gl_eff_world_lines_color_r "0"
C     gl_eff_world_wireframe "0"
 A  L gl_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
 A    gl_ext_max_anisotropy "2"
 A  L gl_ext_multitexture "1"
    ? gl_ext_palettedtexture "0"
 A  L gl_ext_pointparameters "0"
 A  L gl_ext_swapinterval "1"
 A  L gl_ext_texture_compression "0"
 A  L gl_ext_texture_filter_anisotropic "1"
 A    gl_finish "0"
      gl_flashblend "0"
    ? gl_flush "0"
      gl_fog "0"
      gl_fog_density "1"
 A    gl_fontshadow "0"
 A  L gl_gammapics "1"
C     gl_lightmap "0"
C     gl_lockpvs "0"
 A    gl_mode "4"
 A    gl_modulate "3"
      gl_motionblur "0"
      gl_nobind "0"
 A    gl_particle "1"
 A    gl_particle_att_a "1"
 A    gl_particle_att_b "1"
 A    gl_particle_att_c "0"
 A    gl_particle_max_size "1"
 A    gl_particle_min_size "1"
      gl_particle_scale "1"
 A    gl_particle_size "1"
 A  L gl_picmip "5"
      gl_polyblend "0"
 A  L gl_replacemd2 "0"
 A  L gl_replacepcx "1"
 A  L gl_replacewal "1"
 A  L gl_round_down "1"
C     gl_saturatelighting "0"
 A    gl_scale "1"
 A    gl_screenshot_quality "85"
    L gl_sgis_mipmap "0"
 A    gl_shadows "2"
 A    gl_shelleffect "1"
      gl_showtris "0"
 A  L gl_skymip "0"
 A  L gl_stainmaps "0"
 A    gl_swapinterval "0"
    ? gl_texturealphamode "default"
 A  L gl_texturebits "0"
 A    gl_texturemode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
    ? gl_texturesolidmode "default"
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      gl_watercaustics "0"
 A    gl_waterwaves "1"
      gl_ztrick "0"
      graphheight "32"
      graphscale "1"
      graphshift "0"
 AU   hand "2"
      host_speeds "0"
 A S  hostname "wd"
    ? in_joystick "0"
      in_mouse "1"
      intensity "2"
      loc_dir "locs"
      logfile "0"
 A    lookspring "1"
 A    lookstrafe "0"
      m_accel "0"
      m_autosens "0"
      m_directinput "1"
      m_filter "0"
      m_forward "1"
 A    m_pitch ".022"
      m_side "0.8"
 A    m_xpfix "0"
      m_yaw "0.022"
   SL maxclients "1"
    ? menu_serversort "1"
 AU   msg "0"
 AU   name "sh1t"
      net_ignore_icmp "0"
      net_maxmsglen "1390"
      net_port "27901"
      netgraph "0"
  U   password ""
C     paused "0"
   SN protocol "34"
      public "0"
    N qport "54780"
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 A    r_customwidth "1680"
      r_drawentities "1"
C     r_drawworld "1"
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      r_lerpmodels "1"
      r_lightlevel "0"
      r_maxfps "250"
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      r_norefresh "0"
      r_novis "0"
      r_speeds "0"
 AU   rate "15000"
      rcon_address ""
      rcon_password ""
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    ? run_roll "0"
      s_ambient "1"
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    L s_initsound "1"
 A  L s_khz "44"
 A  L s_loadas8bit "0"
 A    s_mixahead "0.2"
    L s_oldresample "0"
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 A    s_openal_maxdistance "8192"
 A    s_openal_rollofffactor "5"
 A  L s_primary "0"
      s_show "0"
 A    s_swapstereo "0"
      s_testsound "0"
 A    s_volume "0.1"
    L s_wavonly "0"
      scr_centertime "2.5"
 A    scr_conheight "0.5"
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      scr_printspeed "8"
      scr_showpause "1"
      scr_showturtle "0"
 A    sensitivity "3.4"
      showclamp "0"
      showdrop "0"
      showpackets "0"
      showtrace "0"
      skill "1"
 AU   skin "male/grunt"
 A    skydistance "4096"
  U   spectator "0"
    L sv_airaccelerate "0"
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      sv_noreload "0"
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    ? sw_stipplealpha "0"
C     timedemo "0"
      timegraph "0"
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      timeout "125"
C     timescale "1"
      v_centermove "0.15"
      v_centerspeed "500"
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      win_consolelogging "0"
 A    win_noalttab "0"
      zombietime "2"
    ? zoomfov "30"
    ? zoomsens ".5"
329 cvars
]condump yeah

[fdrjk]

Didn't know about that command. Cool.

[metaL]

still no particles.  anyone see any obvious bs lines in my settings that would cause this?  its been a while for me so i can't remember what they all do.

[Sgt. Dick]

I had hot wings lastnight - I saw particles today. 

[adz1La]

gl_replacemd2 "0"


the fuck does that do?

[fdrjk]

It allows you to replace your .md2 models in AprQ2 with .md3 models. Since servers don't check for .md3's, it can be used for hiding spiked models; which is why IRTDM forces "gl_replacemd2 0".

It's set to 1 on my config by default. I'm going to change it.

[[BTF] Reflex]

Tried installing the kicker or starter, see if you can see particles in a new install?

[yahoo]

have you tried deleting your config and just use the default config?

[VaeVictis]

maybe its something as messed up as the pallet for the particles missing XD the actual file...

think that would screw up a bunch more things though

[haunted]

It's a brand new laptop and they're fresh copies of r1q2 starter and q2kicker guys......

i would lean towards something being weird in his gfx settings almost, because particles work just fine in ANYONE else's fresh copy, plus we've eliminated the most probable causes of this...

he has an AMD w/ radeon board, maybe someone who is familiar with these could drop him a line.