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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2011, 02:56:41 PM »
I will do that. My personal opinion is, server could be anticheat client only, so no one would need to talk this long. If everybody is so sensitive about cheater list, why don't you prevent it at first hand?
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2011, 03:04:08 PM »
My personal opinion is, server could be anticheat client only, so no one would need to talk this long. If everybody is so sensitive about cheater list, why don't you prevent it at first hand?

anticheat.dll only works on Windows NT-based operating systems.  We don't wish to exclude Mac / Linux players by default.


Note, one thing that can make testing difficult, is AC only triggers when files are *loaded*.

So let's say an obscure model was hacked, you could connect to the server and AC wouldn't detect the problem until some other player joins who is using that model, then it gets loaded, and gets detected at that point.


When I have time, I'll look at the server logs to see if it has information about what specific files it's detecting in your pak.


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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2011, 03:09:35 PM »
Thank you, until that time I will stop using the pak... (possibly I will download a pak from this website, I assume they are "spiked" free.)
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2011, 03:40:44 PM »
When I have time, I'll look at the server logs to see if it has information about what specific files it's detecting in your pak.

Hmm. Unfortunately, the only information provided is:

[2011-07-26 12:50] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue[69.111.xxx.xxx:25053] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-26 12:51] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue[69.111.xxx.xxx:25053] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-26 12:51] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue[69.111.xxx.xxx:25053] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-26 12:52] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue[69.111.xxx.xxx:21684] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-26 12:53] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue[69.111.xxx.xxx:21684] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-26 12:53] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue]DoH[[69.111.xxx.xxx:5231] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-28 12:44] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue[69.111.xxx.xxx:13482] was kicked: 'spiked-model'
[2011-07-28 12:47] ANTICHEAT VIOLATION: Residue]DoH[[69.111.xxx.xxx:41545] was kicked: 'spiked-model'


Note, except for that three-day period, I don't see any other AC violations on your IP in the past couple months.

Is it possible you already removed whatever pak you were using at that time?

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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2011, 04:22:52 PM »
Possibly. I tried many paks because I am just back to Q2, after 3-4 years. I was looking at the old websites and possibly this "spiked" problem occurred when I wanted to see the difference in the servers. I thought I still had this "spiked model" because some lovely detective-wanna-be friends keep saying that I am cheating, in the game and the forum. Yes, I couldn't connect and couldn't find the problem until I reinstalled q2 second day after I was kicked few more times. First I thought a sore loser banned my name and I tried to change it but it didn't help of course. I guess the pak I am using accidentally solved my kicking problem.

Not everyone is quake2 genius and can't tell what pak includes what by just unzipping the downloaded file. Please note that getting kicked while trying to connect and using cheat is different. I find this kind of attitude very irritating especially for a very old and limited community game. Feels like not different than CS forums filled with children.

Thank you console for your time btw.
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2011, 04:23:41 PM »
Did you download a pak called "magus" from reals TS site?
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2011, 04:32:33 PM »
I've downloaded more than 20 paks recently. I don't know what it is called. Paks are not easy to find, 5-10 years ago they were everywhere.
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2011, 04:33:51 PM »
http://realistic.tastyspleen.net/PAKS/maguspak.rar

This one has a spiked nade model in it, possibly causing the violation.
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2011, 04:38:21 PM »
Why is it in the land of spike haters? Everybody hates spikes right?  :rocketright:
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2011, 05:11:36 PM »
http://realistic.tastyspleen.net/PAKS/maguspak.rar

This one has a spiked nade model in it, possibly causing the violation.

If this is known for sure, this ought not to be hosted on our web space.


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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2011, 05:25:01 PM »


This one has a spiked nade model in it, possibly causing the violation.

If this is known for sure, this ought not to be hosted on our web space.


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Well, it's been there for years untouched.

Here; http://www.2shared.com/file/F2aZxYNL/mpak.html

That's the pak without the spiked model in it.

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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2011, 07:19:12 PM »
Before anyone else jumps this dudes shit about this,... back off and pull your panties out of your butt cracks, please. It's pretty obvious this guy didn't cheat intentionally.

I'm 99.9% sure that what's triggering that is the grenade launcher grenade projectile model in that pak. A few years back when I was testing out paks before pulling them apart to include individual items from them in my pak item archive, I was connecting to the old EoM server and got kicked by AC a couple of times for "spiked models". After testing the pak out offline, I finally saw that the grenade launcher projectiles had ugly spikes sticking out of them. Unfortunately for me, the ac site logged it so that brainless idiots like Razor could find it to try to tell everyone that I was hacking. ::)

I'm not really sure why people would consider that much of a cheat, but whatever, rules are rules. If a person were to skin the models with a bright enough color, you'd be able to see them just as easy and avoid stepping on them. I've never really understood the advantage of using them as opposed to non-spiked ones.
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2011, 09:51:01 AM »
Wells said Focalor.
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2011, 11:55:59 AM »
spiked grenades would allow you to see blast radius and avoid it by the least amount of QU

this would also almost always prevent nades not being seen off to your side or something doing a large amount of damage

i use bright skin nades, and they still arent always seen as they can just be laying around, maybe on the corner of a stair, whatever... i can see how spiked nades would be easily advantageous

its not as advantageous as a spiked player model, but still a cheat when you think about it :)
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Re: R1Q2 Video mode - Rail , rocket and other explosions video lag
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2011, 07:03:45 PM »
This one has a spiked nade model in it, possibly causing the violation.
If this is known for sure, this ought not to be hosted on our web space.
Well, it's been there for years untouched.

OK, it's removed.

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