the cheater ryd3l is back?

[Barton]

Last week I saw someone with the alias ryd3L play on tourney4, by chance. For those who don't know, ryd3L is the alias of some polish cheater was kicked and banned from some polish tdm league called PLQ2 for wallhacking, and cheating in general. He also shows up for wallhacks on polish and Tastyspleen servers: http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=88.156.128.94&t=c

I'm sure a few players here have heard of another polish player that goes by the name "Medic" or "fResh". Earlier today he asked me to play some QL but he linked me to an account named "ryd3L". Instantly I became suspicious and started to ask him if he was that same player, because the idea of using the alias of KNOWN cheater is just simply retarded. When I questioned this, he tried to play it off by claiming that he has a brother that also plays Q2, who also lives with him and is the person who cheated and was banned. He claimed that he was only using ryd3L's account because he wanted to get into servers that have higher skill. He claims that his brother is better than him in QL. This excuse doesn't sound good to me as I don't remember QL keeping that feature that barred players from joining difficult servers, in order to prevent newbies from getting destroyed and quitting the game. If that was the case, then I wouldn't have played against some players in the game who either NA professional Quake players or are skilled enough to challenge such players. Also, the reason why this excuse sounds weak to me is that he also claimed that he lives with his brother in Poland. If his brother is in Poland, then why did the alias "ryd3L" play on July 2th around 7PM central time? He has no reason to use that alias in Q2. 

This "I share the same ip as my brother who cheated in Q2 and got banned" is overplayed. Such claims like that require some prove or just sound like pathetic excuses. Medic even admit in my conversation that he doesn't care that his so called brother screwed him over by cheating, so he can't play the game anymore in Europe. Apparently he doesn't Q2 anymore.

I want to make it clear that the entire time that I have played with ryd3l when he was aliased as fResh or Medic, I haven't noticed him playing suspiciously and I noticed that he uses AC, so please note that is not me accusing him of cheating right now at this moment. Even though I'd rather get a ip check to confirm that Medic = ryd3L, I'm sure people would like to know whether or not they're playing with someone who used to cheat and isn't man enough to try to repair his reputation, and would rather try to hide his identity while failing at it.

Here's my log of our conversation, if anyone is interested. Note that he switches over to private chat. That doesn't make him look good either. Why PM if you don't have something potentially to hide:



The Edge
...ignoring DirectInput mouse
Read 136 map locations from 'locs/q2dm1.loc'
Barton entered the game

Welcome to OpenTDM, an open source OSP/Battle replacement. Please report any bugs at www.opentdm.net. Type 'commands' in the
console for a brief command guide.

welcome to tastyspleen.net
type 'goto' for server info
forums at: http://tastyspleen.net

usage: connect <server>
oOoOoo: Caught VaeVict1s cheating the other day (wallhack)
fResh: barton ql?
couldn't exec cfg/q2dm1.cfg
oOoOoo: good day!
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
(Barton): I did but you never went on
fResh: sory i had to leave befor
(Barton): oh okay
oOoOoo disconnected
(Barton): it's pretty late for me now...just came here to watch
(Barton): gonna sleep soon
(fResh): i send u invite
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): k
VaeVict1s almost dodged |iR|bLiTz's rocket
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
VaeVict1s was blown away by |iR|bLiTz's super shotgun
(fResh): tell me when u accept it
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): lol ryd3l...
(Barton): you serious?
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
(fResh): come on
fResh:
(Barton): polish hacker...
(Barton): man thats you...:<
(fResh): no this is my brother account
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
|iR|bLiTz: dum choice
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
(Barton): b0at says the same but i don't believe his ass
(Barton): why should i believe you?
(fResh): and he didnt heat, he just beat one of the admin on the street what why he got banned there was any profs
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): he's got wallhack flags from 2010 on tasty servers *correction: 2009
|iR|bLiTz: juked
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
(fResh): really?>
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
(fResh): lol i didnt know that
|iR|bLiTz: noone wants to spec me :[
VaeVict1s:
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(fResh): he just gave nme his ql account
(Barton): yes he does
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
(fResh): accept?
(Barton): sry no. use a diff name
|iR|bLiTz was blown away by VaeVict1s's super shotgun
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz was blown away by VaeVict1s's super shotgun
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: ns
|iR|bLiTz: ns
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
anticheat |iR|bLiTz lost connection to anticheat server, client is no longer valid.
VaeVict1s:
|iR|bLiTz entered the game
|iR|bLiTz: boooo
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: i lagged out
VaeVict1s:
VaeVict1s called a time out. Match will resume automatically in 5:00.
|iR|bLiTz: i was gunna win too!
VaeVict1s: wont it drop the first one so you can rejoin?
|iR|bLiTz: nope
Barton: vote kick
VaeVict1s: grrrr
Barton: first
Game resuming in 10 seconds. Match time remaining: 2:53
5
4
3
2
1
Fight!
VaeVict1s left team 'VaeVict1s'
Match ended.
|iR|bLiTz wins by forfeit!
Please report any bugs at www.opentdm.net.
|iR|bLiTz: i win
VaeVict1s:
|iR|bLiTz: by forgeit
|iR|bLiTz timed out
|iR|bLiTz disconnected
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz joined team 'Hometeam'
|iR|bLiTz became captain of 'Hometeam'
VaeVict1s: there it goes
VaeVict1s joined team 'Visitors'
VaeVict1s became captain of 'Visitors'
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
]condump huh112
Dumped console text to ./opentdm/condumps/huh112.txt.
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
Br0nco entered the game
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: wat fov u use
VaeVict1s: 110
VaeVict1s: im widescreen though so its really like 100
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz cratered.
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: teams?
Br0nco disconnected
|iR|bLiTz was blown away by VaeVict1s's super shotgun
|iR|bLiTz: invite!
(WallFly[BZZZ]): SENT: |iR|bLiTz INVITES YOU TO GOTO TOURNEY2 - 1v1 and team matches !
VaeVict1s: goto
VaeVict1s almost dodged |iR|bLiTz's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: off the domee
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
rigid_sausage disconnected
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
VaeVict1s was railed by |iR|bLiTz
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
{fResh}: i just send u invite
|iR|bLiTz was blown away by VaeVict1s's super shotgun
|iR|bLiTz: :]
{fResh}: i wast remember my account pass so i made new one
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
VaeVict1s:
VaeVict1s was railed by |iR|bLiTz
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
(Barton): sry but i need proof you're you
(Barton): and not some hacker
(Barton): i don't want to play with a known hacker
|iR|bLiTz: strafe
{fResh}: hmmmm how can i prof it?
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): not to be a jerk...but that's your problem
(Barton): sry if i'm wrong
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
{fResh}: damn man ok
{fResh}: u can just see my skill in ql is not so good like a my brother
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
(Barton): doesn't matter about skill level
(Barton): just about identities
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: ns
|iR|bLiTz: ns
VaeVict1s:
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: how the fuck do u hit that
|iR|bLiTz: seriously
VaeVict1s: luck honestly lol
{fResh}: bro come on lest play ql 1 game...
|iR|bLiTz: u a flick railer?
VaeVict1s: one of the hardest shots on this map lol
|iR|bLiTz: or and aimer
VaeVict1s: i do both
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
(Barton): i just don't want to play people who might hack
|iR|bLiTz: ..
|iR|bLiTz: lol
|iR|bLiTz: like
|iR|bLiTz: i cant even see u
|iR|bLiTz: n u rail me
(Barton): maybe you really have a brother but I can't believe it without proof
|iR|bLiTz was melted by VaeVict1s's hyperblaster
|iR|bLiTz: goto
{fResh}: so u can play with me cuz im not a cheater
|iR|bLiTz started a vote: map ztn2dm3
VaeVict1s: usually its my hyper people complain about on dm1
VaeVict1s voted YES.
Vote passed!
New map: ztn2dm3

Changing map...
reconnecting (soft)...




The Rage
Read 45 map locations from 'locs/ztn2dm3.loc'
anticheat WallFly[BZZZ] is not using anticheat.
(Barton): there's quite a few people who play this game and have relatives that do
usage: connect <server>
|iR|bLiTz is ready!
|iR|bLiTz: GoodLuck/Have Fun!
VaeVict1s is ready!
Match Settings:
Game mode: Team Deathmatch
Timelimit: 10 minutes
Overtime: 1 minute

Removed weapons:
Removed powerups: quad invul

'Hometeam' skin: male/grunt
'Visitors' skin: female/athena

Weapon switch: normal
Teleporter mode: normal
Gameplay bugs: all gameplay bugs fixed
1v1 Respawn mode: avoid closest (bugged)
All players ready! Starting countdown (15 secs)...
VaeVict1s: hf man
couldn't exec cfg/ztn2dm3.cfg
5
4
3
2
VaeVict1s:
1
Fight!
(Barton): it's just like b0at. the times he's come back and played here he didn't do anything suspcious
|iR|bLiTz: fu
|iR|bLiTz blew himself up.
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): but I don't wanna play with someone who's a known hacker. i can't trust someone like that
|iR|bLiTz: wtf
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: call timeout
|iR|bLiTz called a time out. Match will resume automatically in 5:00.
VaeVict1s: its just time to timeout
VaeVict1s: having problems making the jump to rail?
(Barton): not saying your a hacker
|iR|bLiTz: its my settings
VaeVict1s: cl_maxfps 66 or something like that should make it easier
(Barton): but I don't know you so I can't trust your word
Game resuming in 10 seconds. Match time remaining: 8:58
VaeVict1s: versions!
VaeVict1s: !versions
Barton: R1Q2 b7904 Sun Oct 19 00:39:57 2008 x86 Win32 RELEASE [http://r1ch.net/r1q2]
|iR|bLiTz: R1Q2 b7904 Sun Oct 19 00:39:57 2008 x86 Win32 RELEASE [http://r1ch.net/r1q2]
fResh: R1Q2 b7904 Sun Oct 19 00:39:57 2008 x86 Win32 RELEASE [http://r1ch.net/r1q2]
VaeVict1s: R1Q2 b7904 Sun Oct 19 00:39:57 2008 x86 Win32 RELEASE [http://r1ch.net/r1q2]
5
4
3
2
1
Fight!
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
Barton: bad angle
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
Barton: should be more parallel
]straight
Barton: straight
]side dj
Barton: side dj
|iR|bLiTz: using dbl jump script :p
]doesn't look helpful
Barton: doesn't look helpful
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
|iR|bLiTz: feels so wierd at 66
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
{fResh}: i twough that u are a good guy but u talking like kid now
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: rate?
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
(Barton): if you know your brother hacks...then why would you use his name
(Barton): it's tarnished
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): it's not smart thinking on your part anyway
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
{fResh}: look when i made my account and trying to enter some servers there was communicat like server for higher skill
players...
{fResh}: thats all
(Barton): i don't understand
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
{fResh}: but like i said i didnt know that he cheated,,,
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): yes that's true
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz: :]
|iR|bLiTz: :]
(Barton): http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=88.156.128.94&t=c
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
{fResh}: i dont believe that he was cheating in q2 cuz i saw how he played
(Barton): i know some cheaters will alias, but I also read something about him i think
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
(Barton): a lot of cheaters are good
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: .give all
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
(Barton): you know blanka that Q3 player
{fResh}: they said that he had wh in league match cuz he jumped to lava for rg
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: :]
{fResh}: can u imagine that?
{fResh}: i saw this match...
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: ....
(Barton): that sounds familiar
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
{fResh}: he was on teamspeak probobly some of ther guy from his team told him there is rg...
{fResh}: and that was only one way to catch him
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: this fucking mouse
|iR|bLiTz: i swear
{fResh}: no demos no nathink
|iR|bLiTz: u see it barton
]say nope
Barton: nope
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: when i go to fast in one direction
|iR|bLiTz: it spazs
VaeVict1s: its tracking loss by going too fast
]i was alt-tabbed out
Barton: i was alt-tabbed out
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
|iR|bLiTz: can it be fixed
(Barton): there's another problem...if he didn't hack why does he have wallhack positives on r1ch's website
1 minute remaining.
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
|iR|bLiTz: ??
{fResh}: dunno
{fResh}: didnt tell me that
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: ?
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
(Barton): he got banned from a league, plus ip logs of cheating...it doesn't sound like he has much evidence to prove his side
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz was cut in half by VaeVict1s's chaingun
{fResh}: but i saw his skill
Timelimit hit. Match ended.
VaeVict1s wins, 30 to -1.
VaeVict1s: gg
|iR|bLiTz: can it?
Please report any bugs at www.opentdm.net.
VaeVict1s joined team 'Visitors'
VaeVict1s became captain of 'Visitors'
(Barton): having skill doesn't mean you have no will to cheat
VaeVict1s: it is my best map lol
(|iR|bLiTz): him? :p
(Barton): having wallhack clearly gives a player advantage
(|iR|bLiTz): r1q2 wh?
|iR|bLiTz: vae
VaeVict1s: ive played witha mouse like that blitz, its just a cheap sensor, gotta pay for an mx518 or a deathadder or
something to not have that
(Barton): plus it's easier to hide cheating that way
{fResh}: i agree with u
(|iR|bLiTz): wat about dudes rail
(|iR|bLiTz): its ridic
VaeVict1s: i play with a mouse that does that when i play on my laptop from school lol raising sens can help reduce you
needing to flick it fast/far
fResh: just 36%
|iR|bLiTz joined team 'Hometeam'
|iR|bLiTz became captain of 'Hometeam'
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
(Barton): if you don't live with your bro then you can proof you're yourself
|iR|bLiTz was blown away by VaeVict1s's super shotgun
{fResh}: i do live with him but now im on wacation in usa
{fResh}: and he is in poland
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: sensitivit7
|iR|bLiTz: sensitivit 7
{fResh}: got a good job and dont care about quake
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: ...
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: dude
(Barton): then how do yuo play q2 in europe
|iR|bLiTz: seriously tho?
(Barton): if you're bro got your ip banned
VaeVict1s: lol vote a different map then
VaeVict1s: was playing naymlis a lot here last month xD
{fResh}: i dodnt i use to but now i like ql more
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
(Barton): so you're fine that your brother killed your opportunity to play q2? come on...
|iR|bLiTz: wat hand uusiong..
|iR|bLiTz: using
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
VaeVict1s: im using 2
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
MWHEELDOWN is unbound, hit F4 to set.
|iR|bLiTz: its funny your rockets make it around the corner before i do
]lower ping = less prediction
Barton: lower ping = less prediction
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: see...
|iR|bLiTz: everytime
|iR|bLiTz: i know bro i been playint his game for like 9 yrs
{fResh}: nope q2 is to old for me i'd prefer better grafic games like ql call of duty
|iR|bLiTz: and this dudes pretty good...
|iR|bLiTz: i think i would of ran into him before
|iR|bLiTz: nvr even heard of his nam
|iR|bLiTz: all these people alias now
VaeVict1s: at least you arent one of the people who hit the forums first and think i suck cause everyone talks shit on me
there lol
VaeVict1s:
VaeVict1s:
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
VaeVict1s: sweet midair
fResh: blood?
|iR|bLiTz almost dodged VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: lmao
|iR|bLiTz: no shit
|iR|bLiTz: prolly
VaeVict1s: nah... but everyone says i act like him.. .lol
|iR|bLiTz: or u r
|iR|bLiTz: no
|iR|bLiTz ate VaeVict1s's rocket
|iR|bLiTz: betty?
|iR|bLiTz: haha
VaeVict1s: im new school, been playing like a year and a half
|iR|bLiTz: ya ok.
|iR|bLiTz was railed by VaeVict1s
(Barton): well anyway, ima go. im not accussing you of hacking, but by association with rydel and no proof i hestitant. sry
that's just me
|iR|bLiTz: see that weave game?
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
|iR|bLiTz: LOL
VaeVict1s: started about the time pyr3x stopped
(Barton): im hesitant*
]disconnect
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ERROR: Disconnected from server
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[console]

Last week I saw someone with the alias ryd3L play on tourney4

The person spoofing RYd3L was (MCS)Faderjok. (*.hsd1.md.comcast.net)

As for fResh/Medic, that person is on *.nycmny.east.verizon.net.  They've only been using the alias fResh for the past couple months.  But they've used the alias Medic for the past year or so.

[Barton]

Fader you idiot... -_-

Anyway, I still am suspicious though. If I'm wrong somehow, then I'll apologize completely. I don't like calling people out but this all seemed too ridiculous to me.

[fdrjk]

I still think he's suspicious no matter how many times I taunt him with that name. 

I think I saw in a log in ts-live where fResh outright admitted he was RYD3L... but I don't know.

[VaeVictis]

oOoOoo: Caught VaeVict1s cheating the other day (wallhack)
oOoOoo: good day!

i didnt even notice that  so thats what you two were talking about while me and blitz were shootin around... hope blitz gets a better mouse cheap mice can be annoying if you are used to flicking your wrist a lot...

anyway on the subject of fresh... hes really weird :/ first time i saw him he was going off about how everyone in america sucked (he was playing some one who is cool and all but not exactly cream of the crop) and how it is boring and he is better than naymlis and blah blah blah... but i was talking to him not too long ago and he says it wasnt him? it had me a tad confused... xD perhaps he just suffers from dissociative identity disorder

rydel isnt his brother... ITS THE VOICE IN HIS HEAD!

[haunted]

I know him. Ryd3l moved to NA in like 2007... and he has no brother that plays q2. Pretty stupid he made that up but, the guy uses AC and gets beat usually(although he plays very careful defense) so I don't think he cheats. Slap a forced AC on his ass for the hell of it.

btw, he admitted to me that he was ryd3l. We used to play a bunch...

[Barton]

Thanks, Haunted. I know he's aliasing with other names too. I don't get why he just doesn't admit who he is. It's not a big deal. He's not the first cheater to come back and play legitimately while using AC. w/e though.

[fdrjk]

 

After a bit of searching, I found this. Apparently, Quake 2 isn't the only game he's cheated at.

http://www.punksbusted.com/cgi-bin/membership/ban.cgi?par=V0162667A&query=Search

Call of Duty 4     RYD3L    [Poland]   82.139.32.36

He appears to have a dynamic IP, which would explain his different IP in the Hall of shame.

http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=88.156.128.94&t=c

Both of those IPs trace back to the same state; Mazowieckie, Poland. 

[playboy]

same concept as when skillz was wallhacking...

still sucked.

[Barton]

Most cheaters suck too much for cheats to give them a meaning advantage over opponents who outclass them. I'm glad that's mostly the case.

[fdrjk]

RYD3L moved back to Poland.

[|iR|Focalor]

Tell Razor we said thanks for the tip.

[ex]

Most cheaters suck too much for cheats to give them a meaning advantage over opponents who outclass them. I'm glad that's mostly the case.

I remember there were only a handful of players who cheated that were actually really really good to start with.  There's rumors of naymlis (never saw this myself), but for sure some of the clan valiant and dz. crew were caught up in cheats.  Pissed a lot of league people off.

Another fag I remember was this guy named Vapid, in ctf, he was really good but he cheated on top of it, wallhacking and timescaling, supposedly on servers that had timescale protected.  Guess you can hack just about anything. 

[Vithis]

Most cheaters suck too much for cheats to give them a meaning advantage over opponents who outclass them. I'm glad that's mostly the case.

I remember there were only a handful of players who cheated that were actually really really good to start with.  There's rumors of naymlis (never saw this myself), but for sure some of the clan valiant and dz. crew were caught up in cheats.  Pissed a lot of league people off.

Another fag I remember was this guy named Vapid, in ctf, he was really good but he cheated on top of it, wallhacking and timescaling, supposedly on servers that had timescale protected.  Guess you can hack just about anything. 

Hops beat Vapid 1 v 1 while Vapid was cheating.   http://www.wormlair.com/forum/index.php/topic,3016.msg44559.html#msg44559

[fdrjk]

He's back. Under the nick "Kazik".