Add ztn & trdm maps to DM

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I got faders seal of approval

[Sgt. Dick]

anyway I'm asking what you think about adding ztn & trdm maps to Tastyspleen DM.
At least console gave an honest opinion, although I don't agree... maybe when Tastyspleen started, ppl were happy to have a q2dm1-8 dm server, but now they're getting bored. Mostly you'll find that players use Vanilla because they're BORED SHITLESS of cycling through q2dm1-8

Would you care to back any of your assumptions up with evidence or do you plan to continue just talking out of your ass?

"People" are not bored of dm1-dm8. You just get owned on dm1-dm8.
DM is regularly populated with a full complement of players. If they were bored and all went to vanilla as you claim, vanilla wouldn't be half empty most of the day while DM is hard to connect to due to player load.

The vast majority of the players I see on vanilla, pretty much only play on vanilla so your "mostly" is completely wrong.
MOSTLY players use vanilla because they like playing on vanilla and chatting with the same crowd every day. Quite a few of them use vanilla because it regularly shows up near the top of a server browser when sorted by players online, just like the DM server. They sure as hell are not there for the challenging experience based on what I've seen of the playstyle used by the majority there. If anything, the ones that are actually there for the maps are the ones camping the easily camped vanilla maps that were not originally intended for deathmatch and thus have hidey holes all over the place and sparse weapon placement

Feeding us your line of BS won't change what everyone can connect to vanilla and observe with their own eyes.

BTW, almost every single one of your "hurdur lets change something because I said so" posts have pretty much circled around and consisted of the same 2 things over and over.

1: You make claims that are unsupported to try to prop up your "argument" and ignore anyones opinion who gives it while supposedly requesting that people give you their opinions.
2: You beligerently "suggest" changes based on these unsupported claims that magically will make the DM server what you want while shitting on the wants of the rest of us.

Please drop your snarky trolling routine and stop trying to crap on the DM server so that you can have it your way, when by your statements it can be seen that you'd obviously prefer something more like vanilla or mutant and just refuse to go play on them.

Nailed it 

[[BTF]Sigma]

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[fdrjk]

I also approve of this post.

 

[Sgt. Dick]

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[Tubby]

I think the whole problem here is that you're all simply afraid of change - like old folks who are afraid to use the new-fangled microwave oven or the cordless telephone because the innovative technology scares them. You refuse to accept that new concepts and ideas could possibly result in positive change, and, like them, you scorn and deride anyone who dares to challenge your preconcieved ideas around what you consider to be the 'right' way of doing things.

I've been playing Q2 since it came out, but the difference between you and me is that I've somehow managed to maintain a sense of initiative and creativity.

So you guys go ahead and grab your slippers and your false teeth - meanwhile, I'm going to push on with my mission to make the world a better place - starting with Quake 2...


First we take Manhatten, then we take the World!

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I'm going to push on with my mission to make the world a better place - starting with trolling ...

 

[Tubby]

BTW, almost every single one of your "hurdur lets change something because I said so" posts have pretty much circled around and consisted of the same 2 things over and over.

1: You make claims that are unsupported to try to prop up your "argument" and ignore anyones opinion who gives it while supposedly requesting that people give you their opinions.
2: You beligerently "suggest" changes based on these unsupported claims that magically will make the DM server what you want while shitting on the wants of the rest of us.

I refute these slanderous claims!

1. Expanding the DM map cycle is based on my own experience as a Q2 player and on the expressed opinions of other players. Evidence: Players in DM contiuously 'mymap' the few nonconventional maps currently available on that server.

2. The changes I have managed to affect thus far have been positive.  Evidence: I succesfully petitioned console to remove 'train' and 'space' from the Vanilla map rotation. Do you hear any complaints?

[[BTF]Sigma]

Space got removed!? BOOOOOOO that was a fun map. I'm serious.

[yahoo]

 

[ztev0]

1. Expanding the DM map cycle is based on my own experience as a Q2 player and on the expressed opinions of other players. Evidence: Players in DM contiuously 'mymap' the few nonconventional maps currently available on that server.

leave DM the way it is. People play on DM because they like teh classic dm1 to dm8. If they wanted more variety they would go to vanilla. I personally don't like vanilla, hate playing stock maps thats why i play on DM if i want to play all weapons instead of railz, and if i want to try something different i have been known to go to mutant once every so often

[[BTF]Sigma]

What it was. I loved using the air control in the games engine to have some pretty wicked battles. Warp speed, engage!

[X'tyfe]

I'm going to push on with my mission to make the world a better place - starting with Quake 2...

It's a lost cause, trust me on this

[Acer]

They should bring back the Gravity Lottery at vanilla. It was set up randomly so every now and then (regardless of the map) the gravity got set low.

Although I remember it happened sometimes that the map you had mymap'd and been waiting for to play was the one that hit the lottery, so that kind of sucked but still it spiced things up a little.

Personally I also liked that some of the faster and somewhat chaotic maps like biggun, fact3 and city1 had a higher fraglimit of 50.  I also wouldn't mind seeing the general fraglimit on DM brought back up to 40 instead of just 30.

[Whirlingdervish]

I wouldn't mind seeing more people like optica and travolta who are willing to go sit on mutant long enough to generate a couple of matches.

Most of the "complaints" tubby has can be addressed by a small application of effort ON HIS END, instead of effort spent by the admins on the server side.

Perhaps instead of suggesting that we change the servers to suit him, he should take the initiative on this big important issue and DO SOMETHING HIMSELF TO HELP HIMSELF.

If you want to play trdm and ztn maps, mymap them on mutant after putting in a bit of your own time to wait until others show up, instead of foisting your wants on all of the people who are playing on DM for the stock DM experience because you are too lazy and just want a server full of other people who are all stuck playing on your terms.
There are a variety of servers that offer those maps and many of them are ffa dm servers, while there is only one stock DM map server that is ever in use.

btw,

Players in DM contiuously 'mymap' the few nonconventional maps currently available on that server.

No they don't. Continuously is very far from the truth. In all the time I've played on the DM server since 2006, I've only seen someone mymap a non q2dm* map a handful of times.

Making up "evidence" isn't going to help your cause, and if you want to "refute my slanderous claims" try actually adressing the claims.