Changing Education Paradigms

[soh]

Changing Education Paradigms

Any thoughts on this video?

I do have family that have become successful through the magnet school system. But I myself went through it all... honors, AP, Regular classes, Magnet schools(hahaha). I never really liked it. Children these days are going to be growing up in a changing world of education... if the public schooling system ever changes...

[The Happy Friar]

I work in a school.  They don't expect much from these kids.  Biggest difference from when I was a kid as far as I can tell.  The schools+teachers are trying to make it entertaining not educational.  People older then me says the same thing compared to when they were in school & I was in school.  A biology teacher said to me last year that her highschool bio she was teaching is what she was learning in gradeschool (she was ~25 or so at the time).

Yeah, some kids fall through the "cracks" if you don't make it entertaining but the light bulb, cotton gin, airplane, car, nuclear energy, steam engine, computer, etc. weren't invented because people were having a blast playing on an ipad or interacting with a neat looking smart board.  The really smart ones can't rise to the top with the educational system pandering to the LCD.  It's annoying to see kids get an award for achievement because they stopped playing video games & did their homework while the kids who did the homework all the time & get decent grades are ignored.

The school system should also stop trying for everyone to get A's or B's.  If "C" is average & everyone is getting higher then the difficult needs to be upped.  Average should the the most students, not the least.  I'd say it's simple math but if the kids aren't good at math how can we expect the teachers to be!   

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Yeah, some kids fall through the "cracks" if you don't make it entertaining but the light bulb, cotton gin, airplane, car, nuclear energy, steam engine, computer, etc. weren't invented because people were having a blast playing on an ipad or interacting with a neat looking smart board.  The really smart ones can't rise to the top with the educational system pandering to the LCD.  It's annoying to see kids get an award for achievement because they stopped playing video games & did their homework while the kids who did the homework all the time & get decent grades are ignored.

 I would like to omit an iPad, Comptuer, or Gaming Console from my children when/if I have any many years from now. I don't believe it being in the household. Books, painting utensils, desks, pens, pencils, paper. That's what children need at home. Along with parents enforcing self motivation, and the desire of education. But parent's aren't really involved in a lot of these students academics What ever happened to values

The school system should also stop trying for everyone to get A's or B's.  If "C" is average & everyone is getting higher then the difficult needs to be upped.  Average should the the most students, not the least.  I'd say it's simple math but if the kids aren't good at math how can we expect the teachers to be!   

The only problem that I have with that is that the standards are lowered. What happens when these kids go out in the work force? Just do average productivity at their job? Would that even be good enough? You go to work, you don't do bad, but you don't do good either? Just enough so the boss won't yell at you . Honest to say, I was never really payed attention to as far my schoolwork in secondary school. Not like my older brothers. They were the lucky ones. As a teenager people forgot about me from age 13 until I graduated from high school. I would get home, and I would do my homework. Turn it in, get an A on exams. But the older I became I lowered my standards, "Oh, well I can get an A but I'll just listen to music and get a C". Kids stop caring when they know they can just get C's. Not to mention that they usually end up receiving F's instead It's terrible! I was lucky enough to snap out of that. Because a lot of students that were just like myself in high school aren't really going anywhere in life now since last I checked They don't even want to be at work It's a problem for society when students don't want to do their best. We get lazy people, and then we have to deal with them when they are working behind a desk and don't want to help you at the doctor's office. Parenting is also a big problem when it comes to education. A BIG PROBLEM!

I'd say it's simple math but if the kids aren't good at math how can we expect the teachers to be!

Some Math Teacher's in K-12 also like to intimidate students

[|iR|Focalor]

I would like to omit an iPad, Comptuer, or Gaming Console from my children when/if I have any many years from now. I don't believe it being in the household. Books, painting utensils, desks, pens, pencils, paper. That's what children need at home. Along with parents enforcing self motivation, and the desire of education.

I read this after reading the shit you post in the "Hot Bitches" thread and I go 

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I would like to omit an iPad, Comptuer, or Gaming Console from my children when/if I have any many years from now. I don't believe it being in the household. Books, painting utensils, desks, pens, pencils, paper. That's what children need at home. Along with parents enforcing self motivation, and the desire of education.

I read this after reading the shit you post in the "Hot Bitches" thread and I go 

 :hypocriteface:

But in all honesty, I'm 21. I'm not going to be worrying about children until I'm around 40. Might as well be apart of the "Hot Bitches" thread while I can

[|iR|Focalor]

I dunno, probably better to have kids before 30. Get the irritating younger years outta the way while you still have the patience to deal with it and the hair left to pull out.

[The Happy Friar]

But parent's aren't really involved in a lot of these students academics What ever happened to values

Lawsuits. 

The only problem that I have with that is that the standards are lowered.

I'm not saying make kids work easier, I'm saying make them really really REALLY work for that A.  It shouldn't be something easily obtained.  Most kids should be getting C's from doing the basic requirements: working hard, studying, etc.  Like playing Q2 MP: an average player shouldn't be in the finals @ QCon, only the good ones should be.

Some Math Teacher's in K-12 also like to intimidate students

I was thinking along the lines if they don't know it they can't teach the kids.  To many distractions.  I know some really good math teachers, most of them make up their own tests & homework. 

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I dunno, probably better to have kids before 30. Get the irritating younger years outta the way while you still have the patience to deal with it and the hair left to pull out.

Yeah, in my 30's I'm going to be traveling the globe and finally having freedom for a change. I won't be ready for children nor the patience. Something a lot of people don't know is that I hate kids to begin with I hated the fuck out of them when I was a kid and I hate them now still at my age I say by 40s I'll consider settling down. And if I don't have children by then, well then I suppose I will have escaped a lot of time and money that I would have put into raising children There are too many babies born in the world anyway. What makes me so different

[soh]

But parent's aren't really involved in a lot of these students academics What ever happened to values

Lawsuits. 

The only problem that I have with that is that the standards are lowered.

I'm not saying make kids work easier, I'm saying make them really really REALLY work for that A.  It shouldn't be something easily obtained.  Most kids should be getting C's from doing the basic requirements: working hard, studying, etc.  Like playing Q2 MP: an average player shouldn't be in the finals @ QCon, only the good ones should be.

Some Math Teacher's in K-12 also like to intimidate students

I was thinking along the lines if they don't know it they can't teach the kids.  To many distractions.  I know some really good math teachers, most of them make up their own tests & homework. 

You won't believe how stubborn some of the teachers that I had in high school. They would act like top shit in the classroom, and then they didn't like when I would have them in the counselor meeting and acting like little bitches because they knew they would lose their job. I had a Spanish teacher once in my first High School. Her name Was Ms. Rizzo. She was a dominating woman. A bit crazy in my opinion. She had to have the last word. And she was always right. Meaning she would continue arguing with me during the Counselor-Student-Faculty meetings. I'm glad those years are over. I failed that class btw I hated speaking spanish as a kid anyway

And yeah, I do believe that instructor's are a bit lazy. Of course not all of them are. But there are a portion that don't really give a damn. As long as they have their job they're fine. My 7th grade math teacher(god damn that woman) who is retired now never taught a damn thing. And my biology teacher in 9th grade never gave us our final. She never showed up for class, so we all got A's It wasn't until I was in my Junior year of high school that I felt cheated from the previous instructors I had. I realized what working for an A really meant after that. And it shouldn't have to be that way. I hate public school so much. I once had a girlfriend when I was 15. She went to private school and I remember her saying that she didn't like the private schooling system. Like I said before, I'm going to homeschool my children. And If I do send them to school, there will be much investigation going on by my future wife and I. I'm even thinking of moving out of Southern California, and living somewhere up north. I don't want my children to grow up in an environment  the way I had growing up. Not that I am saying that all of these public school students are terrible. But I know first hand what these little punks are like. I guess learning will take place as a parent even in my 50s

And I agree. Not all the math instructors are terrible. I just hate the ones that try to act top dog when their job is supposed to enrich the student's learning experience. I went to a crap load of PTA meetings. And they would always bring up test scores all the time. "Why are our students not getting high scores" "why are only some of the students getting good grades". There are a lot of problems in the Mathematics education in the USA.

What is Wrong (and Right) with Math Education in USA?

 If you ask me it all happens in elementary school for starters. And other problems are entering Junior High School. Kids just lose it in the most important years to come. It's a shame

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I'm going to write another essay about this later when I'm done living the weekend

[reaper]

It's basically up to the student to learn.  For example, they can just go by getting A's or B's at level X, or they can do more.  Personally I feel bad about wasting my education in high school, because there was the opportunity to do some pretty interesting things.   What makes a student want to learn?

beatings,beatings,beatings

 

[soh]

It's basically up to the student to learn.  For example, they can just go by getting A's or B's at level X, or they can do more.  Personally I feel bad about wasting my education in high school, because there was the opportunity to do some pretty interesting things.   What makes a student want to learn?

beatings,beatings,beatings

 

 Back in the 1970s and 80s when my older brothers and that crowd were growing up they would get their asses handed to them if they didn't do their homework. How do we find a way in this day and age to have children want to learn and go to school without going through physical consequences? hehe For one thing, I am not going to be getting into trouble. And I wouldn't want to be the father that has his child sitting next to me in the kitchen table with the belt next to my palm At least that's what my mother would do to me when I was in elementary school

Raising children is a hard thing

But yes, it's up to the student to learn! Most definitely!