Teamcamping on Vanilla and DM

[QuakeDuke]

Jesus....such a serious topic. The top players on Vanilla still win, regardless if there are cows there or not. Some of them just avoid the one obvious camp spot and play as normal everywhere else. Or they chalk up multiple frags against the moos. Cows will kill each other accidently or become easy targets for people who use their skin. All advantages to the non-cow player. It injects into the Vanilla server something which is totalling lacking from some players - humor. This game is 13 years old. The novelty and freshness are long gone. This just adds a twist now and then. Christ at this stage of Quake 2, it really is just a game. A few minutes of friendly competition - ultimately signifying nothing.

If this is really such a problem, set up a poll to see how serious an issue it is. Then Quadz can decide if the bovine teaming should stop or not.

As probably the oldest player (70 last August) to still log on (xquake.... ah yessssss... the memories...... ) and play, I really don't see what the fuss is about. It used to be frustrating back when everything was dialup but now? Camp - don't camp. Play - don't play. As Rec says.... serious stuff...........

QD

[Barton]

lol perky was on #tastyspleen awhile ago.

[Jman-CRU]

Were they Cows ?

If so, Cows always herd together.

It's because cows & penguins are social critters

QD

The other day on Hamburger Hill...










Gotta hate teamers. They're a disgrace. 

[ReCycled]

On the subject of teamcamping; All well and good, but what's bizarre is how people turn things around and blame the ones on the receiving end of teamcamping for not seeing 'the humor' or treat them as whiners and newbs because they don't agree with that sort of play in ffa where it's supposed to be every player for himself.......
I guess the vanilla teamcamping 'clans' have become so common here that it's regarded as a part of the game, almost like individual campers and spawnkillers. Anyway it's not always that bad and it won't ruin my fun but after cheating, excessive spawnkilling and chat spam it's probably the gayest thing you can do in ffa servers. I'm just saying.

Acer - as myself being a Cow-teamer I do understand some of the things you are saying.

If you went back to the first 5 or so years of Quake 2, the game and players were certainly more serious. Personal ability and gaming ethics were paramount. I remember kids who would team in the Railgun water cave on DM1 and piss off people - myself included. It was a very frenzied, intense game with the sole purpose of finishing first. Complete with flame-fests, whining and bragging.
Nowadays there's more of a balance of competitive players and casual players (less serious players). There's probably even an age demographic between them (young vs old). The casual players are still competitive, just de-tuned after all these years with the same game. Rather than treating everyone as an enemy, they prefer to also include a social aspect and will team with like-minded players. The ultra-competitive guys are lone wolves and will never team. Vanilla is probably the only server in the world that has this blend.

So is the game nowadays dictated by the needs of the serious player or the casual player? Or maybe it's evolved into a blend on the Vanilla server. Just another perspective...

[Whirlingdervish]

<snip> being a Cow-teamer I do understand some of the things you are saying. <snip>

Understand this:

<snip> individually they'd get handled by most players.

 

[mir^mortal]

I personally find amusing to either fuck up their camping spots and also to team up with them as well, or to team up with them and suddenly shot them all once "accepted" into the gang 

*** if you start banning all the people who do things you don't like there will be noone to play with!

[Sgt. Dick]

*** if you start banning all the people who do things you don't like there will be noone to play with!

 

[[BTF] Reflex]

I've formed random teams here and there,  me and one player had the area at the top of a lift for most of the game.
Other times I'll do silly stuff like supply a player camping a lift with rox,  just drop them on the lift and the activate it.

Makes the game fun to do weird stuff like that every so often.

[mir^mortal]

Sometimes it's just fun to piss off others  , like some sort of camping to throw off people into the lava right after respawn (while player still has invu) 

[K1LL3R_B]

I've formed random teams here and there,  me and one player had the area at the top of a lift for most of the game.

Man I tried pretty hard to get up that lift as well, lol. I think I even whined a bit about it. Oh well I got over it, I should use model d/l so I could have seen it was the two bananas, lol I prolly would have been in a better mood about it if I had known. I think bananas always come in bunches.