Achievements?

[VaeVictis]

Vae said your dick can't hang out of a pair of speedos 

lies, ive always said vital doesnt have a dick 

[V!RaL]

Could we maybe stay on top? Why you guys talkin' about my dick anyway, That's a little queer.

[VaeVictis]

Could we maybe stay on top? Why you guys talkin' about my dick anyway, That's a little queer.

im always on top

anyway on topic: could have achievement specific to certain mods to promote people playing mods that dont get much love recently

[The Happy Friar]

WHEN I WAS A KID...

when we killed a guy with a Quad who had the BFG & we only had a shotgun with one shot left & then knocked them in to lava with that one shell & they died, we didn't need some fake award to say "CRAP, DID YOU SEE THAT?  THAT WAS AWESOME!  HAHAHAHAHAHA" for the next year or so.

Much better then a fake award that nobody will remember tomorrow.

[V!RaL]

That's not the point of it friar. It's just something to work for, Like a stamp collection, Something appealing to new comers, and something addictive to oldschool players. I'm sure lots of people love the idea.

[[BTF] Reflex]

Speedos are designed to not allow dick hangage 

[CodeBlack]

FUCK NO.
This beautiful oldskool game shall not be smothered with crappy achievements like the new fps games, why not add ranks? and give new guns on higher ranks 

Fuck this 

[Arm0r]

this game is too old for it anyway.

[yahoo]

some players already have ranks.

-sgt. dick
-*major*
-general ownage

[peewee_RotA]

I'm pretty old school. I think that achievements are lame.

[Sgt. Dick]

some players already have ranks.

-sgt. dick
-*major*
-general ownage

 

[The Happy Friar]

That's not the point of it friar. It's just something to work for, Like a stamp collection, Something appealing to new comers, and something addictive to oldschool players. I'm sure lots of people love the idea.

so you're saying playing the game to kick ass or embarrass somebody isn't something to work for?   

[VaeVictis]

That's not the point of it friar. It's just something to work for, Like a stamp collection, Something appealing to new comers, and something addictive to oldschool players. I'm sure lots of people love the idea.

so you're saying playing the game to kick ass or embarrass somebody isn't something to work for?   

well say your bored and just some mindless dm aint doin it for ya, might as well have a list of stupid shit you could try to accomplish

its not like its gonna change the actual game in any way shape or form, it just adds another angle of how to play it for fun

[The Happy Friar]

well say your bored and just some mindless dm aint doin it for ya, might as well have a list of stupid shit you could try to accomplish

people could troll & do that.    See how long until you get kickec/banned/muted.    Or use just 'nades on the railz server.  Or just TK on any team server.    Or spam  !invite. 

its not like its gonna change the actual game in any way shape or form, it just adds another angle of how to play it for fun

  The "not like its gonna change the actual game" is where I disagree (in older games, like Carmageddon, there were "achievements" (what they would be called now a days) but they were part of the game, not something you went out of the way to get.  IE do a flip in the air & land on 5 people, you'd get bonus points @ a big message saying the awesome thing you did).  Any achievement you have will have an equal achievement whore who HAS to get that achievement.  IE have one with "rail 5 guys with one shot" & you'll either get someone complaining about how it's impossible or a group of 6 players going to servers & rigging the game just so they can get that achievement.   Next thing we'll end up with is threads about banning people who just play for achievements because they're not joining in the game, they're just getting achievements, teamgames can't be completed, etc. 
  Take ETQW for example.  It doesn't have achievements like Steam games do, the only consistent thing is rank, which is 100% meaningless (in campaigns you can rack up skills but they all reset after the end of the campaign).    Yet there were still players who would band together & purposely setup situations just to get up in rank.  IE 5 guys constantly repairing a turret while another two guys constantly attack it.  One side gets constant repair XP, the other gets attack XP.  These people went as far as kicking people from the server who didn't want to do this, & there's nothing anyone could do about it.
  Now we could say "it wouldn't happen here, we're a bunch of swell players who don't care".  If that's true, then a) people wouldn't bother with the achievements anyway & it would be a waste of time & b) no new players would join.  If it's not true then we'd have a bunch of cut-throat players trying to ruin the game for someone else because they're pissed at the achievement bragging & we'd get a bunch of new players who are willing to cheat just to get the achievements.  Yeah, Quadz's good @ handling cheaters, but he doesn't have 50 new players a week every week trying to cheat.
  I would say if something's to be done it should be done like Q3A's system: simple stuff that is shown @ the end of the match but that's it.  Maybe even a top 3 display @ the end with the players models doing one of their taunts.

[VaeVictis]

well say your bored and just some mindless dm aint doin it for ya, might as well have a list of stupid shit you could try to accomplish

people could troll & do that.    See how long until you get kickec/banned/muted.    Or use just 'nades on the railz server.  Or just TK on any team server.    Or spam  !invite. 

its not like its gonna change the actual game in any way shape or form, it just adds another angle of how to play it for fun

  The "not like its gonna change the actual game" is where I disagree (in older games, like Carmageddon, there were "achievements" (what they would be called now a days) but they were part of the game, not something you went out of the way to get.  IE do a flip in the air & land on 5 people, you'd get bonus points @ a big message saying the awesome thing you did).  Any achievement you have will have an equal achievement whore who HAS to get that achievement.  IE have one with "rail 5 guys with one shot" & you'll either get someone complaining about how it's impossible or a group of 6 players going to servers & rigging the game just so they can get that achievement.   Next thing we'll end up with is threads about banning people who just play for achievements because they're not joining in the game, they're just getting achievements, teamgames can't be completed, etc. 
  Take ETQW for example.  It doesn't have achievements like Steam games do, the only consistent thing is rank, which is 100% meaningless (in campaigns you can rack up skills but they all reset after the end of the campaign).    Yet there were still players who would band together & purposely setup situations just to get up in rank.  IE 5 guys constantly repairing a turret while another two guys constantly attack it.  One side gets constant repair XP, the other gets attack XP.  These people went as far as kicking people from the server who didn't want to do this, & there's nothing anyone could do about it.
  Now we could say "it wouldn't happen here, we're a bunch of swell players who don't care".  If that's true, then a) people wouldn't bother with the achievements anyway & it would be a waste of time & b) no new players would join.  If it's not true then we'd have a bunch of cut-throat players trying to ruin the game for someone else because they're pissed at the achievement bragging & we'd get a bunch of new players who are willing to cheat just to get the achievements.  Yeah, Quadz's good @ handling cheaters, but he doesn't have 50 new players a week every week trying to cheat.
  I would say if something's to be done it should be done like Q3A's system: simple stuff that is shown @ the end of the match but that's it.  Maybe even a top 3 display @ the end with the players models doing one of their taunts.

i was certainly thinking simple is better... you brought up some great points and i dont think anyone wants people being achievement whores

maybe some one should just make a list of 100 off the wall ways to enjoy quake2 and have a bunch of stupid shit people can do if they are bored, such as win a railz game with only hand grenades, nade clown some one, or win a duel with only MG this way its not a list of achievements for achievement whores, its just a suggestion list for people who are bored just runnin n gunnin to find a different angle on things...

ON THAT THOUGHT: i would love to make a thread such as that myself and perhaps if its made quadz could sticky it, and people could reply with suggestions that i could add to a list of cool shit to try in the first post keeping it up to date sound like a good idea?