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« Reply #75 on: May 28, 2010, 07:40:58 PM »
I just watched tomek.dm2 off Jman's thread about tomek. I hate watching in that POV... can't concentrate on it as well.

Is there a better demo I should watch?

See attachments. I`ve recammed the previously uploaded demos to first person eyecam, hopefully that makes it easier to judge things.

The one that Barton had uploaded was a multi-level demo and Keygrip was able to read and play the additional two maps that were also recorded and stored within his demo.
(Sometimes Keygrip messes up the scoreboard info and in some demos you`ll see error messages about missing stuff. But of course the point was to retrieve the first person view to see what`s going on.)

Anyway, now that he`s been forced to run anticheat the demos that are currently available will probably be the only relevant demos we will have of him.
It definitely isn`t easy to do well with his ping and it also isn`t impossible to win some games now and then, depending on the crowd. But from what I`ve seen no more demos are needed because even with thick nerd glasses you can see the R4zorism.


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« Reply #76 on: May 28, 2010, 08:14:19 PM »
Nice work Acer.   For anyone else interested, I will add that panj has a tutorial on how to change the camera view from 3rd to 1st.

Can I come to you for keygrip tips?  Looking mostly to work camera angles in highlight demos :)



I'll see if I have any demos from the last 2 years,  I tag demos of me watching people for easy recovery
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Re: Wallhacker?
« Reply #77 on: May 28, 2010, 08:49:58 PM »
Funny the only player I've ever seen using that alias has forced AC on my servers for trying to cheat repeatedly.
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=65.36.9.85

actually, if you look that server up.. you'll see it is

  35   0 70.86.44.154    27910 QDev Gloom 64       warrev   gloom     0 of 64

now, IRONICALLY, you'll also notice my ftp is..

http://qdev.edgeirc.net/~fulgore/yougotmebro.JPG

see any trend here? hacking on the same server i have webspace on.. hmm

also, it's gloom. a mod made by rich. qdev is also a server where rich has admin and the maker of egl (my friend Echon)  runs it. the chance of me trying to show r1ch i found a new speedhack and there were ways to dodge anticheat with it.. that's not possible at all is it? also, you see me using SPIKED MODELS once again on the same server and then we tried it on another server after i showed him that to see if it worked.


good try dervish, you almost got me with that one.


this is right now

[10:37:08PM] fulgore: first off, hello everyone. my name is tiny. you will often see me playing with tomek. so, before i commence the ownage let's just get our facts straight:
 
Funny the only player I've ever seen using that alias has forced AC on my servers for trying to cheat repeatedly.
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=65.36.9.85
[10:37:09PM] fulgore: LOL
[10:37:12PM] fulgore: remember when i showed you that hack
[10:37:14PM] fulgore: the speedhack
[10:37:17PM] fulgore: that guy thinks i actually speedhack
[10:41:11PM] R1CH: lol

here's some logs from 2009 - i won't even humor you with the date or month

[07:57:02PM] fulgore: (Link: http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=1627.0)http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=1627.0
[07:57:03PM] fulgore: rofl
[07:57:07PM] fulgore: that guy
[07:57:12PM] fulgore: was using that speedhack i showed you the other day
[07:57:55PM] R1CH: hard to tell
[07:58:02PM] R1CH: vortex has some fucking broken spec mode
[07:58:04PM] fulgore: you know when
[07:58:06PM] R1CH: everything jerks around so bad
[07:58:07PM] fulgore: i was locking up
[07:58:09PM] fulgore: every few secs?
[07:58:11PM] R1CH: yeah
[07:58:12PM] fulgore: when i was using it on gloom
[07:58:13PM] fulgore: that's what he did
[07:58:17PM] fulgore: even when i didnt spec him
[07:58:17PM] R1CH: that was r1q2 speedhack protection

unfortunately for you, i can provide proof of what i'm doing. oh, look at that. i had same ftp since 2008 even in that post and i was hacking on that server in 2009. you have me cornered here, dervish.
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Re: Wallhacker?
« Reply #78 on: May 28, 2010, 08:55:27 PM »
Funny the only player I've ever seen using that alias has forced AC on my servers for trying to cheat repeatedly.
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=65.36.9.85

actually, if you look that server up.. you'll see it is

  35   0 70.86.44.154    27910 QDev Gloom 64       warrev   gloom     0 of 64

now, IRONICALLY, you'll also notice my ftp is..

http://qdev.edgeirc.net/~fulgore/yougotmebro.JPG

see any trend here? hacking on the same server i have webspace on.. hmm

also, it's gloom. a mod made by rich. qdev is also a server where rich has admin and the maker of egl (my friend Echon)  runs it. the chance of me trying to show r1ch i found a new speedhack and there were ways to dodge anticheat with it.. that's not possible at all is it? also, you see me using SPIKED MODELS once again on the same server and then we tried it on another server after i showed him that to see if it worked.


good try dervish, you almost got me with that one.


this is right now

[10:37:08PM] fulgore: first off, hello everyone. my name is tiny. you will often see me playing with tomek. so, before i commence the ownage let's just get our facts straight:
 
Funny the only player I've ever seen using that alias has forced AC on my servers for trying to cheat repeatedly.
http://acstats.r1.cx/?ip=65.36.9.85
[10:37:09PM] fulgore: LOL
[10:37:12PM] fulgore: remember when i showed you that hack
[10:37:14PM] fulgore: the speedhack
[10:37:17PM] fulgore: that guy thinks i actually speedhack
[10:41:11PM] R1CH: lol

here's some logs from 2009 - i won't even humor you with the date or month

[07:57:02PM] fulgore: (Link: http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=1627.0)http://www.r1ch.net/forum/index.php?topic=1627.0
[07:57:03PM] fulgore: rofl
[07:57:07PM] fulgore: that guy
[07:57:12PM] fulgore: was using that speedhack i showed you the other day
[07:57:55PM] R1CH: hard to tell
[07:58:02PM] R1CH: vortex has some fucking broken spec mode
[07:58:04PM] fulgore: you know when
[07:58:06PM] R1CH: everything jerks around so bad
[07:58:07PM] fulgore: i was locking up
[07:58:09PM] fulgore: every few secs?
[07:58:11PM] R1CH: yeah
[07:58:12PM] fulgore: when i was using it on gloom
[07:58:13PM] fulgore: that's what he did
[07:58:17PM] fulgore: even when i didnt spec him
[07:58:17PM] R1CH: that was r1q2 speedhack protection

unfortunately for you, i can provide proof of what i'm doing. oh, look at that. i had same ftp since 2008 even in that post and i was hacking on that server in 2009. you have me cornered here, dervish.


i dont see anything in your conversation with r1ch that justifies you using hacks on a public server, and spiked models are definately not ignorable :)

honestly just sounds to me like your making excuses, many people do it

now while your legit-ness is in question, why dont you just at least admit that tomek was walling :)
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Re: Wallhacker?
« Reply #79 on: May 28, 2010, 09:01:44 PM »
I can confirm that fulgore (tiny) was helping me test the speedhack detection on qdev for a speedhack that AC wasn't detecting, and I also blacklisted a spiked model pak he found. Since a lot of servers do not do proper file checks, I did a blacklist for that model hash on the ac server, the logs showing him using it on the non-qdev server are just to confirm the global blacklist worked (if admins would set up proper file checks, this wouldn't be an issue).
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« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2010, 09:19:25 PM »

i dont see anything in your conversation with r1ch that justifies you using hacks on a public server, and spiked models are definately not ignorable :)

honestly just sounds to me like your making excuses, many people do it

now while your legit-ness is in question, why dont you just at least admit that tomek was walling :)

you, dervish, and the other fanboys in this thread that think his word is law can apologize to me after you've stomached that argument breaking declaration made by r1ch.

nice trump card btw. you almost had me down for the count.
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« Reply #81 on: May 28, 2010, 09:24:38 PM »
So he makes some nice spectacular/lucky rails and you say he cheats.  what's up with that!

 
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« Reply #82 on: May 28, 2010, 09:34:42 PM »
what do we need a trump card for?

you have no decent arguments for why your buddy's play looks odd, and we're not playing a game.
It's not like anyone cared you existed before you butted in with your expert opinion of everyone who's barely ever heard of you, and pretty much tried to deflect everyone with flamebait from the fact that multiple people think tomek's play looks funny in some of those demos.


I posted the link because I was highlighting how funny it is that the first person to run to this guy's defence has more bad hack checks on r1ch's ac site than most recent hackers, and he walks in here on his first post talking about "ownage" like some punk little bitch.

If you can't understand why people would wonder about your intentions here, in light of what appears to be some cheatin goin on, and your bullshit attitude right out of the gates, then you're a fucktard.

in closing, before I go back to drinking my bourbon:

Most people don't have a scrolling page of bad hits on the AC site.
Get over yourself.



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« Reply #83 on: May 28, 2010, 09:53:24 PM »
75% of that "bad hack check" is me tweaking the speed by tenths of hundredths in a span of 17 minutes to try to find out the sweetspot where people can move noticeably faster, but not noticeable for the anticheat to pick it up.

then i somehow had a spiked model pak flag on an open tdm server and didn't even know why (keep in mind, people send me paks all of the time)

later, i went through all of them and discovered the spiked model pak and how it worked on certain servers and i told rich. now both the speedhack (one that was undetected for a VERY long time. anticheat never detected it, the actual r1q2 client [if you used it] has a built in speed limiter so it made you freeze up if you started moving too fast) and the version of spiked models are no longer usable.

so other than that my record is spotless.

you posted the link because it was your only ticket of discrediting the fact that noone can prove that tomek _IS_ hacking. that's what you don't understand. it's all suspicions. you are so fucking quick to stick a pitchfork in his ass when noone has any fucking evidence that he is hacking. you even originally said he was aimbotting -- that's how far you took it. shit is funny.

yea, because having a scrolling page of bad hits on the AC site when they are all on a server/mod R1CH administrates really means something.

this is exactly what i was talking about before. you guys see some shit and start twisting it into whatever you want it to be. there's no dirt on my name and you can't put any on it no matter how you try to twist or justify my anticheat log since it can all be explained (and has been) by R1CH himself.

there's nothing to get over. this is what i'm seeing;

you guys want to condemn tomek for whatever reason and i'm the only one here defending him because you have already linked up like a bunch of ass bandits. so, being we're the only two people outside of the tastyspleen social circle, it's the two of us against all of you. you suspect he is cheating but you can't prove it. i am defending him and you don't know anything about me. how are you gonna shut me the fuck up? find some shit stains in my boxer briefs. you just tried and you failed. makes you wonder, though, if i'm linked up with the guy that designed your precious and oh-so-trustworthy method of weeding out cheaters.. where does that place me? certified G zone. untouchable by scrubs. so, dervish, since i actually know about you, i will admit that you don't exactly qualify as a scrub but you are displaying scrub-like tendencies in this thread.

now, your buddy vaevictis, on the other hand, should not even be addressing me or anyone else on these forums. he's a fucking dingleberry hanging from my homer simpson status ass hair.

i will apologize for coming at you sideways dervish because i do know, understand, and respect your position here amongst other quake 2 players but you shouldn't instantly be jumping to conclusions especially on something you know that can NEVER be 100% proven. you got in my friend's ass and now i'm burrowing in yours like a dugtrio. that's how the world works.

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I posted the link because I was highlighting how funny it is that the first person to run to this guy's defence has more bad hack checks on r1ch's ac site than most recent hackers, and he walks in here on his first post talking about "ownage" like some punk little bitch.[/u]

now i don't mean to rub my own nutsack.. but you really should ask someone about that one.
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« Reply #84 on: May 28, 2010, 10:16:00 PM »
tiny, so far you havent impressed me at all :) im not an insta player, not a single insta player has actually impressed me, aim does not make a good player, and you being an ra2 and railz player thinking that is the highest form of skill is just laughable

the only thing your good at is being an arrogant ass, you act like an elitist saying everyone sucks, but wont even play yourself, i doubt you could beat half of the decent itdm players...

saying im a low skilled player is kinda funny honestly, ive been in a slump lately due to some stuff that isnt related to the game, but most everyone who says im a noob just gos on hear say and has no clue that i am actually getting better every month and can play on par with very good duelers, all that you have ever seen of me is some railz ffa where im just fucking around

and whether or not you want to say tomek is wall hacking, his play certainly looks like it, and he is significantly worse now that ac is forced, there has been numerous things that dont really match up and it doesnt look to good for him :) either way, parties over, if he gets caught walling with ac he will probably just score himself a ban, so try keeping your friend in check
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« Reply #85 on: May 28, 2010, 10:22:02 PM »
dervish he's not hacking.

also vaevictis i don't know why you keep posting.  no one cares about you so get the fuck out of tastyspleen before you get banned for throwing hissy fits again.

also editing my post to put in R1CH's post.
I can confirm that fulgore (tiny) was helping me test the speedhack detection on qdev for a speedhack that AC wasn't detecting, and I also blacklisted a spiked model pak he found. Since a lot of servers do not do proper file checks, I did a blacklist for that model hash on the ac server, the logs showing him using it on the non-qdev server are just to confirm the global blacklist worked (if admins would set up proper file checks, this wouldn't be an issue).

i've also known fulgore for a long time and he has tested hacks for me previously on the servers *I* administrate to find security holes.
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« Reply #86 on: May 28, 2010, 10:56:59 PM »
kewl story kids

i guess just because tiny has tested hacks for security purposes in the past, thats exactly why tomek was wall hacking on railz also  ::)
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« Reply #87 on: May 28, 2010, 11:08:41 PM »
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« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2010, 12:03:38 AM »
vaevictis, you are such a pitiful motherfucker in every possible manner. i'm no longer responding to you as of now. sorry kid. i never cared about how good you were or how good anyone else is in this game anymore. the only thing we are discussing is the speculation of someone being a cheater. i'm done with you cornball.

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« Reply #89 on: May 29, 2010, 12:13:19 AM »
vaevictis, you are such a pitiful motherfucker in every possible manner. i'm no longer responding to you as of now. sorry kid. i never cared about how good you were or how good anyone else is in this game anymore. the only thing we are discussing is the speculation of someone being a cheater. i'm done with you cornball.



lol if you didnt care how good i was and didnt want to talk about it, why call me a noob?
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