Universes and space related insanity (not 56k safe)

[[BTF]adam]

I stumbled across this thread: http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=114594

To me this stuff is mindblowing, it really shows just how small we actually are 

This link was also quite interesting, a video about going from 3d to 4d-5d-up to 10d and trying to comprehend it. http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2706/spaceb.jpg

edit: fail, have to click link.

[jägermonsta]

yes, that shit is great

watch that universe show (i think its on tonight) if they have that over there... some crazy shit in there too.

edit: hah that's funny, that bottom graphic is actually the desktop of my work laptop.

[|iR|Focalor]

This link was also quite interesting, a video about going from 3d to 4d-5d-up to 10d and trying to comprehend it. http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

  Good stuff. I've read a little about theories of the different dimensions before, but never heard anyone explain it quite so understandable, I'd usually get completely lost after 5D or 6D.

[quadz]

This link was also quite interesting, a video about going from 3d to 4d-5d-up to 10d and trying to comprehend it. http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php

Wow.  Quite a trip.

[[BTF]Gator]

i read in the most recent article of Popular Science, that it appears that all galaxies in the universe are heading (actually accelerating) towards the same location in the universe.

i'll need to hunt down some info, but it was a good read.  The attempted explanations and theories are  a large structure of dark matter is the gravity influencing it all, but it must be some incredible structure to have that much force.

Found a similar article:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080923104410.htm

[[BTF]Gator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAVjF_7ensg&feature=player_embedded#t=21

Still looking for more info for the previous post, but i found this video similar to the topic.

[Th0m@s29]

That totally just changed my view on everything.

[Waffle Whiffer]

So if there are infinite parallel universes and 11 dimensions, what are the odds of a Flying Spaghetti Monster? 

[quadz]

So if there are infinite parallel universes and 11 dimensions, what are the odds of a Flying Spaghetti Monster?

If there are truly infinite universes, each with varying fundamental physics constants, then I suppose the odds of a Flying Spaghetti Monster existing somewhere could be high.  However, perhaps not so high for a monster that could have created the universe it evolved in.

[Waffle Whiffer]

The 11 dimension thing seems the hardest to comprehend. And on one of those science channel shows they mentioned that the other dimensions would be very small. Totally confusing. 

[QwazyWabbit]

It's all math tricks.

They are confused by the particles and their masses in the Standard Model and they can't explain it except by adding "dimensions" to the equations in order to bend the theory to what they find in their experiments. They can derive the scale of the dimensions based on the energy levels. The higher the energies, the smaller the dimension, the shorter its range and the closer to the big bang it was evolved.

Eventually, they are going to have to admit the Standard Model is flawed and these excess dimensions and string theories will collapse and be historical relics. Hopefully the LHC will show the flaws very soon. Most specifically is the search for the Higgs Boson. If it can be proved to exist then the standard model has some plausability, if it doesn't exist or if it doesn't have the characteristics they expect then the standard model collapses.

One theory, advanced in 1988 by Duane Whitlock (deceased), a retired cryptographer with NSA and a relative of mine, proposes a cryptological solution to the system (Quantum Hexadynamics). In his theory he proposes that the Pionic profile of the particles is the key to interpreting their properties and the Deuterium atom can be explained in terms of Pions and these explain Quarks, Gravitons, Photons and the magnetic monopoles. It's an elegant and simple model.

http://www.usncva.org/books/book-04.html

The primary problem with the Standard Model is that the deeper they dig the more theortical particles they need to explain the theory. This in turn requires bigger and badder colliders to "discover" the theoretical particles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_particles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Model

I don't pretend to understand all this, I engaged Duane when he was still alive and I read his paper but only scratched the surface even though his math was very minimal. He did poke very big holes into the Standard Model to my satisfaction.

[Waffle Whiffer]

Thanks for the info. Dam those mathematicians.    :-)

[quadz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_diagram

[Waffle Whiffer]

Quantum field theory would be at a stand still without the penguins. 

Ok, who knows the latest on breaking the speed of light? Again on the sci channel I heard that seconds after the big bang things traveled faster then the speed of light. Also heard someone say that currently there are objects moving away from us faster then the speed of light.
Is this theory or is there proof that the speed of light can be broken?

[|iR|Focalor]

Doesn't seem logical that humans could possibly detect anything moving AWAY faster than the speed of light.