Swine Flu

[|iR|Focalor]

Time to open up some containment camps.

Indian reservations?

[[BTF]Sigma]

Mmmm chicken soup, dayquil and sprite

[ReCycled]

Sounds neat,  the calender thing.  Was intentionally done?

Definitely intentional. It was thumbtacked to the sheathing, eyeball height, facing whoever would have opened up the wall in the future. I should have taken a pic. Believe me I'm on the lookout for anything. The only other thing I found (so far) was an envelope (with stamps) between the sub-floor and the floorboards in the dining room. The stamps are old but common. But it shows the sense of humor these people had back then. Apparently the woods behind the house was a fox farm back in the 20's. To you fur haters, that was a very common industry from the late 1800's to around the 30's. Everybody wore fur back then or had fur trim on their coats, hats, gloves etc. Poor things....
 

[[BTF]Defiant!]

How it all started

[|iR|Focalor]

Mmmmmm, snout. The other other white meat.

[X7]

 



http://educate-yourself.org/cn/eustacemullinsmurderbyinjectionaug1977.shtml

Murder by Injection
The Government Created the 1976 'Swine Flu Epidemic' & Legionnaire's Disease

    [Editor's Note: I remember well the propaganda media campaign that accompanied the Swine Flu scare of 1976. I recall seeing Gerald Ford on TV and government paid doctors and scientists from the CDC carefully explain on The David Susskind Show just how devastating the Swine Flu "pandemic" was going to be unless everyone in the country got vaccinated against that terrible plague that was soon to sweep the nation. I remember talking to my father about whether it was a good idea to take that vaccine or not. Ultimately, we decided against it and no one in the family went to any of the dozens of free vaccination 'clinics' that were set up around town. It was only later, that we started to hear just a tiny bit of news about a "few" elderly people who had died following the Swine Flu vaccination.

    Another media scare campaign was set into motion in late Summer of 1976 with the "mysterious" Legionnaire's Disease 'outbreak' in a Philadelphia hotel where a Legionnaries' convention had taken place. Government agents were behind that one too. If you want to preserve your life and that of your children, you need to remember a few things: 1. You cannot trust anything that the government says or proposes to "help" you. The government does nothing but lie to the public. 2. Never get vaccinated for anything, regardless of what you are told about the supposed "benefits."   ALL vaccines are poisonous and dangerous to your health--without exception. And today, the dangers posed by vacinnations are greater than ever as they may contain many 'surprises' which you may only discover when it's too late to do anything about it. Avoid all vaccinations....Ken Adachi]

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The Swine Flu Con, Take 2

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/swineflucondos26apr09.shtml


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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/pricebaxterfluhysteriadiversion26apr09.shtml

The "Baxter Flu" Hysteria/Diversion Obscures Many Sins

    [Editor's Note: Baxter International Inc are the NWO cooperatives who, along with Nazi-affiliated Bayer AG (formerly part of IG Farben), were identified in 1996 as having caused 6,000-10,000 hemophiliacs to become infected with the HIV virus due to their ' accidentally contaminated' IV products. In late February of 2009, Baxter International had 'mistakenly' sent out LIVE, unidentified H5N1 Bird flu vurus mixed with seasonal H3N2 virus material to subcontractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia, and Germany. In a sane world, you would expect the government to stop Baxter International from shipping anything to anybody until a thorough investigation was undertaken by the FBI and the Department of Justice and criminal indictments handed down. Instead, this company is rewarded for their criminal conduct and inexcusable negligence with contracts to develop a vaccine for the newly-announced 'Swine Flu Pandemic' when it's already been demonstrated that they are responsible for spreading this bio-engineered disease (credit notes: "Eyeright" in Australia deserves full credit for coining the phrase 'Baxter Flu') ...Ken Adachi]

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[haunted]

"1. You cannot trust anything that the government says or proposes to "help" you. The government does nothing but lie to the public. 2. Never get vaccinated for anything, regardless of what you are told about the supposed "benefits."   ALL vaccines are poisonous and dangerous to your health--without exception. And today, the dangers posed by vacinnations are greater than ever as they may contain many 'surprises' which you may only discover when it's too late to do anything about it. Avoid all vaccinations..."

Why would I take anyone seriously that words shit like that to begin with? People with thoughts that radical are right about 1/1,000 times...

that, in addition to this statement is simply false: "ALL vaccines are poisonous and dangerous to your health--without exception."

 

[haunted]

Finally took the time to read that article x7.. Calling the author's views and conspiracy theories garbage would be an understatement. It's one thing to say that the government benefited from the previous swine flu epidemic, and it's another thing to even say that the government was behind it. But some of the claims that dude made were flat out ridiculous and not plausible.

[|iR|Focalor]

Well given that all vaccines are weakened forms of the virus itself, there is no 100% guarantee that your immune system will be able to successfully eliminate it and develop antibodies to attack that virus in the future.

There's been much debate over whether or not MMR vaccines are to blame for some cases of autism in children. According to a few studies conducted by the CDC, there is no significant proof that MMR vaccines have the potential to cause autism... but at the same time I have to remain somewhat objective about those conclusions because the studies were conducted by government agencies themselves who are notorious for assessing risks, rationalization, and covering their asses. While a small number of children who are genetically predisposed to gastrointestinal problems early on may be at risk of ("allegedly") developing autism from receiving MMR vaccinations, it would be far worse to discontinue vaccinating children and allowing an outbreak and rapid spread of one of the viruses the vaccine covers.

So basically my view on the issue is exactly what I said already. The government can never be 100% sure that a vaccine will be successfully destroyed by an individuals immune system, but the health risks to society as a whole outweigh the risks to any single individual who might be negatively affected by it.

...and I also believe it's not beyond the realm of possibilities that one rogue government agency of any nation on earth (including the US) would unleash some kind of biological weapon for their own purposes, whether it's to simply test the effectiveness of it and develop it further to make it stronger, or to simply kill folks for whatever reason they have for doing so. Agent Orange, Tuskegee experiments, etc. All governments, whether they will publicly announce it or not, all follow the same philosophy: the end justifies the means.

[haunted]

Well given that all vaccines are weakened forms of the virus itself, there is no 100% guarantee that your immune system will be able to successfully eliminate it and develop antibodies to attack that virus in the future.

Well, most* vaccinations are weakened forms of the virus itself. Some vaccinations are forms of the virus itself, but totally denatured/dead and impossible to spread throughout the bloodstream. These vaccinations work because although the virus is denatured, it still possesses the right antigens. Antigens serve the purpose of holding up a sign that says "Hi, I'm e coli!" to t-cells, helper t's, antibodies, and other blood cells alike. The cool thing about antigens is that they trigger an immune system response, which will in turn build up your immunities(instructions are then received to make antibodies that can specifically bind to the antigens of e coli, and then destroy it). So, in cases like that someone can have a partial-full immune system response to the virus, even displaying symptoms of it, but without ever having the virus at all. E coli was of course just a word example though. Also, some vaccinations simply do not possess the virus in any form, but even with normal vaccinations that do contain a weakened form of the virus it's a rarity that the effects could be harmful like that article described, which you seem to agree with as well. I will also agree with you that some vaccinations in the past have been questionable, but just not in a genocidal way.

Just saw your edit. Of course, it's in the realm of possibility. Lets just hope that the most we ever see or hear about something like that is from V for Vendetta, which actually DOES has a fairly believable plot.

[|iR|Focalor]

Oh shit.

EVERYONE PANIC!!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090506/ap_on_re_us/us_swine_flu_texas

[sinner]

... 4000 people in Canada die each year from the seasonal flu... So this means about 11 per day. So far with the swine flu, none have died in about 2-3 weeks...

this is crap, cmon now, doesnt look like a pandemic to me, if so, this would be exponential, day 1 = 1 sick, day 2 = 2 sick, day 3 = 4 sick, day 4 = 16 sick, day 5 = 256 sick, day 6 = 65536,etc...

Its just to distract us from economic stuff or something else.... No need to panic at all 

[haunted]

i don't think that people should be panicking, but it's too soon to say if it's a pandemic or not. that exponential model / example you gave is not accurate at all

[Whirlingdervish]

"Pandemic years are associated with many more cases of influenza and a higher case fatality rate than that seen in seasonal flu outbreaks. It is common to encounter clinical attack rate ranges for seasonal flu of 5% to 15% in the literature. For pandemic flu, clinical attack rates are reported in the range of 25% to 50%.

During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection. Frequently cited numbers are 20,000 deaths each year, and 37,000 annual deaths. About 5-10% of hospitalizations for influenza lead to fatal outcome in adults. "

http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/ops/hsc-scen-3_flu-pandemic-deaths.htm


I won't claim that this is 100% accurate since I just googled it up, but it seems to be fairly close to other figures I've seen reported by the LA Times, and a couple other websites.


Afaik, we've had two reported deaths in people who were infected by this "new" strain of the H1N1 flu bug in the whole of the united states, and of them both had underlying health problems that contributed to their deaths.

one was an immigrant mexican infant, and the other was the woman in Foc's link, above, who was pregnant.


I have strong doubts that a single red blooded healthy american person is going to fall prey to this virus and this "outbreak" considering how long its been out and infecting people and how few have been affected by it to the point of dying.


On the subject of governments using these virus outbreaks to their advantage, I would lean more toward the opportunist and capitalist media using them to sell more papers and generate increased advertisement revenue with their broadcast programs.

I also can't think of a reason that making a virus that only barely kills people would be more efficient in diverting the public's attention than coming up with a cheaper easier conventional govt. scandal.

Getting an intern to give you a blow job and then tell someone about it just seems like a much more cost effective solution.

[|iR|Focalor]

On the subject of governments using these virus outbreaks to their advantage, I would lean more toward the opportunist and capitalist media using them to sell more papers and generate increased advertisement revenue with their broadcast programs.

That's a big 10-4. I stopped by a Waffle House restaurant not too far from my house a week or so ago to see a man loading up the machine that dispenses the Atlanta Journal Constitution. An awful lot of old folks hit up the Waffle House every single morning for the purpose of eating breakfast and then lounging around for another hour or so drinking coffee and reading the paper. Looks like they'll have to read something else now. I'm not sure if the AJC is going completely out of business quite yet, but it doesn't look good at all when they start removing their paper vender boxy whatchamacallit's. They need all the panic, dirty laundry, and hysteria they can get these days.