Author Topic: Michael Jackson very ill? (Read 10552 times)

ReCycled · « **on:** December 23, 2008, 01:36:48 PM »

Quote from a news source in the US - apparently he's very ill. Dunno if there's anything to this. Seen nothing on CNN.

"LOS ANGELES — Michael Jackson is reportedly in desperate need of an emergency transplant operation to save his life from a rare lung condition, according to the author of a new biography of the singer.

Best-selling author Ian Halperin has completed a book about Jackson’s life, which claims that the pop icon, 50, suffers from Alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency, a potentially fatal genetic illness, as well as emphysema and gastrointestinal bleeding."

ToxicMonkey^MZC · « **Reply #1 on:** December 26, 2008, 02:30:33 AM »

It's lies. He's fine

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/dec/24/michael-jackson-illness

metaL · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2008, 02:58:01 PM »

I'm sorry Ms. Jackson, there is no cuuuuuuuure

Chocobo Joe · « **Reply #3 on:** January 01, 2009, 05:26:14 AM »

Damn it, that pedophile deserves getting sick, lucky bastard

Stinger · « **Reply #4 on:** January 01, 2009, 07:01:23 PM »

I dunno, I know I'm in the minority here, but I genuinely believe Micheal Jackson is innocent of the pedophile rap.

I think he's insane. Completely off his rocker. Sleeping with little children I will also concede is about 20 different kinds of creepy. But I think his motives are more sad and fucked up "The innocence of a little child is the most magical thing in the world!", and less "Oh god yes bring on them pre-pubescents to wax my loins!"

He's fucked up, and I wouldn't want him near my children, if I had any... But I don't think he'd try to fuck them. Maybe stroke their hair inappropriately and call them all "Tito", but not fuck them.

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #5 on:** January 01, 2009, 07:12:50 PM »

"Innocence" (aka "naive") is you. The longer you live, the more you'll tend to assume the worst about people. And coincidentally, when you DO, more often than not you will be correct in your assumptions. You can hope that the human animal is genuinely a benevolent species all day long, but like my daddy always said, "Hope in one hand and shit in the other - see which one fills up first."

Stinger · « **Reply #6 on:** January 01, 2009, 07:28:26 PM »

My mom said that one too.

I am many things, friend, but naive ain't one of them. I've seen sick, I've seen depraved. I've seen more fucked up shit in my life than I'd wish on anyone. I once had to throw a guy through a table for sexually molesting my dog. Seriously. I'm not blind to the idea that there are a lot of sick fucks out there. I just don't think Mikey is that kind of sick.

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #7 on:** January 01, 2009, 07:59:46 PM »

From the evidence I've seen in the court cases against him, he's just as innocent as OJ Simpson.

Stinger · « **Reply #8 on:** January 01, 2009, 08:31:46 PM »

Dude, I'm not saying the guy is "right in the head." The list of "ways Michael Jackson is fucked in the head" is too long to list. I completely believe he has in his life mentally rationalized having discussions about sex with children. He also once had a monkey for the best friend, and was on film dangling his own child over a balcony. He also once gave 39 million dollars away in a single day to a single charity, regularly supports 39 in all, and is personally responsible for literally saving lives that would have been lost without his efforts.

Picking on Michael is too easy. He's emotionally a child. He never grew up. That's why he hangs with kids now. He's desperately trying to latch on to something he never had because his father was an abusive ass. He hangs out with a bunch of kids for a full half of his adult life, inevitably this will lead to legitimately creepy situations, Michael's child-mind says something creepy to top it all off, and the parent attack with 19 million dollar lawsuits.

Michael is odd. Like I said, I don't think he's a pedophile and I still wouldn't want the children in my family to go spend the night at his mansion. But there just isn't evidence that he's anything but incredibly weird. People who've accused him in the past have already admitted that Michael never touched them.

He's odd. Parents would be ill-advised to let their parents sleep in his bed. But "pedophile" is such a dirty and common word that doesn't apply to a man whose done more for his fellow human beings in single days than you and I could ever hope to do in our lifetime, and whose sole proven "guilt" was getting drunk on "Jesus juice" and having inappropriate conversations with some kids on the topic of dicks. Kids who'll never have to work again because of the cash payout they got for their awkward troubles.

He's odd. Troubled. Mentally "special". But to pass judgment on him as an evil man for something that could very well have been nothing but opportunistic attacks on a wealthy target of convenience by greedy parents is just short-sided. Don't let the man have sleep-overs with your children, I'm with you there. But yeah. OJ?

OJ killed his wife, got away with it in a trial that will be in history for generations to come, then robbed people at gun point on camera over sports memorabilia. If anyone ever finds Michael in a video-taped preteen gangbang, then we can start holding Mikey next to OJ, and I'll be the first person calling for MJ's head on a pike. In the meantime, your comparison is lacking.

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2009, 10:13:15 PM »

You kind of prove my point FOR me.

Quote from: Stinger on January 01, 2009, 08:31:46 PM

and the parent attack with 19 million dollar lawsuits.

Quote from: Stinger on January 01, 2009, 08:31:46 PM

People who've accused him in the past have already admitted that Michael never touched them.

Quote from: Stinger on January 01, 2009, 08:31:46 PM

Kids who'll never have to work again because of the cash payout they got for their awkward troubles.

So what do we have here?
1. 19 million dollar lawsuit
2. All of the sudden, they change their tune
3. Coincidentally, they're a million dollars richer from dropping the case and settling out of court.

He has enough money to tie someone up in court FOREVER, he can literally court fee someone into bankruptcy. It would be nice if the goal of the law was to seek justice, but unfortunately the goal of the law is to only uphold established laws. If those laws prevent justice, so be it. The OJ comparison isn't a such a stretch, same principle.

Apparently you never heard the part where the young boy described unique features of Jackson's genitals to prosecutors, after which he was examined by medical personnel who confirmed the young boys claims.

Stinger · « **Reply #10 on:** January 01, 2009, 10:29:57 PM »

No, they're 19 million dollars richer settling out of court. I don't remember what they asked for going into it.

You have a real hard-on for prosecuting the guy who made "Thriller," huh? And yeah, I concede. You're right about the OJ thing. Allegedly showing a kid your dick and then paying him 19 million dollars is very similar to killing your wife and her lover and getting away with it, then committing more crimes on tape. I don't know why I stubbornly refused to see how strikingly not-a-stretch that is. Silly me.

I could actually argue further, but it clearly won't make any difference. You have your opinion, I have mine. I think he's a psychological curiosity that's done more good than harm, and you seem to think that I'm an asshole for defending a man who, once again, has done more for charity in a day than you will in your life against statements akin to "He deserves to die of a rare lung disease." Clearly, we're not going to agree here.

My name's Josh, by the way. Nice to meet you. Besides my disagreeing with you on this front, I swear I'm really quite friendly.

|iR|Focalor · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2009, 01:06:53 AM »

I could give a fuck less how much "good guy badge shining" he's done in his lifetime. This is reality, not fucking church. Penance don't mean shit in the real world. And in the real world, we have what's called "evidence". All the evidence points to him being "guilty" of the accusations which were never quite able to make it before a judge.

How is it not a stretch? His lawyers worked the system to help him evade justice. Legal loopholes, inadmissible evidence, bribing. As long as the legal system follows it's guidelines on paper, then "justice" is done. It works both ways of course, people get locked up all the time for crimes they didn't commit.

No, he was accused of a little more than a simple game of "show me your wiener". "Child molester" is the term I'd use to describe him. And despite what YOU think, child molestation is a far more despicable act than murder. Murder victims themselves only suffer in the last few moments of their life. Molestation victims suffer for the rest of their lives.

If you're going to attempt to be different or weird for the sake of being different or weird, at least pick a topic in which to display your feathers that doesn't involve defending child molesters.

Stinger · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2009, 09:33:53 AM »

I was molested as a child. Seriously. Were you?

I think he's innocent, so I'm not defending a child molester. I've been a molested child, so I don't need you to tell me how horrible it was. It certainly sent me down a path far different than the one I'd have gone down had some truly evil man not done some truly evil things to me when I was 6. We're not arguing the merits of penance for child molestation, I genuinely don't think the guy did it.

Weird for the sake of being weird? Stop being an ass for the sake of being an ass. Don't make assumptions. You're the one with his knickers in a bunch, here. I'm the one being civil.

Trust me, you'll know when I'm displaying my feathers. I'm far from subtle.

metaL · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2009, 11:08:32 AM »

jägermonsta · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2009, 11:23:37 AM »

I thought he was already dead?

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