Author Topic: TDM Q&A thread  (Read 11964 times)

Offline VaeVictis

  • i was -1 because you fucking suck
  • Brobdingnagian Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4498
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2010, 10:27:24 PM »
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.  Certainly having the option of showing both players POV is good thing, and you can't do that from current demos on the site.

you cant see the other persons pov when playing :) you have to get all your information from your own pov through sound cues and map knowledge, and you have to learn how to accurately judge how much damage you have done as well

you dont have the convenience of switching pov's to see which weapons and what kinda stack your opponent has when your playing a match :) and that is not how good players think... taking the easy street like that to find out how the other party is doing is now how you get better
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline reaper

  • Opulent Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2872
  • Nice night for a walk, eh? - Nice night for a walk
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2010, 10:38:54 PM »
that's true, you can't switch POV in game, but that doesn't directly translate to instructional videos.  It is something to keep in mind though.  The idea is to keep the options open for making videos.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2010, 10:41:45 PM by reaper »
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
VaeVictus "reaper is a lying sack of shit and ragequit then had, probably slugs, come alias and beat me, wasnt even the same person playing OBVIOUSLY, accuracies basicly doubled, and strategy

Offline VaeVictis

  • i was -1 because you fucking suck
  • Brobdingnagian Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4498
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2010, 12:06:41 AM »
that's true, you can't switch POV in game, but that doesn't directly translate to instructional videos.  It is something to keep in mind though.  The idea is to keep the options open for making videos.

look up the quakeworld 1v1 self comentary videos by phil on youtube :) he says everything that gos through his mind while hes playing 1v1 in qw, owns me in one of em :/
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline [BTF] Reflex

  • Loquaciously Multiloquent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 5324
  • !
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2010, 07:00:51 AM »
Vae.....   has a valid point.   Switching views is great for highlight reels and such, 

but for teaching strat and awareness,  the what and why from one pov is what you are teaching.
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
Sometimes I think it’s a sin when I feel like I’m winnin’ when I’m losin’ again

Offline reaper

  • Opulent Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2872
  • Nice night for a walk, eh? - Nice night for a walk
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2010, 08:49:39 AM »
Quote from: reflex
Vae.....   has a valid point.   Switching views is great for highlight reels and such, 

but for teaching strat and awareness,  the what and why from one pov is what you are teaching.

I'd like to at the least have the option to switch the view, for many reasons, even entertainment purposes.  It sounds like it will be x10 easier to just work with a recorded demo created from xfire avi exporting though.  Do you know if I can keygrip two demos together and export it to avi format with a q2 client?
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
VaeVictus "reaper is a lying sack of shit and ragequit then had, probably slugs, come alias and beat me, wasnt even the same person playing OBVIOUSLY, accuracies basicly doubled, and strategy

Offline [BTF] Reflex

  • Loquaciously Multiloquent Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 5324
  • !
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2010, 09:49:57 AM »
as long as they are the same map I guess...  probably gonna be some glitchyness to it?
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus
Sometimes I think it’s a sin when I feel like I’m winnin’ when I’m losin’ again

Offline VaeVictis

  • i was -1 because you fucking suck
  • Brobdingnagian Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4498
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2010, 12:40:12 PM »
Quote from: reflex
Vae.....   has a valid point.   Switching views is great for highlight reels and such, 

but for teaching strat and awareness,  the what and why from one pov is what you are teaching.

I'd like to at the least have the option to switch the view, for many reasons, even entertainment purposes.  It sounds like it will be x10 easier to just work with a recorded demo created from xfire avi exporting though.  Do you know if I can keygrip two demos together and export it to avi format with a q2 client?

just avi export both demos and piece them together in a video editing program, you can also put in your own audio doing that and encode the vid better for a smaller file size
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline Arm0r

  • Phenomenally Prodigious Member
  • **
  • Posts: 3014
  • Gentlemen.
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2010, 12:50:05 PM »
having both pov's is good for teaching strat for the simple fact you can see where someone made mistakes and how their enemy capitalized on it....also good for learning sound cues...I remember me and my brother used to lan and we spent some time making sounds and taking turns guessing where the other was...very good practice for undestanding and using sound cues.
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline haunted

  • Irrepressibly Profuse Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10149
  • I am hollywood.
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2010, 01:27:26 PM »
I watched demoes with a wallhack for about a year until I developed x-ray vision.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2010, 01:40:44 PM by haunted »
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline VaeVictis

  • i was -1 because you fucking suck
  • Brobdingnagian Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4498
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2010, 04:13:24 PM »
haunted, you gotta teach me ztn2dm3 >_> im missing something on it... is the map all about timing or what? that would explain why its your favorite map
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

Offline haunted

  • Irrepressibly Profuse Member
  • *
  • Posts: 10149
  • I am hollywood.
    • View Profile
  • Rated:
Re: TDM Q&A thread
« Reply #40 on: June 14, 2010, 04:57:47 PM »
I got decent at rage by playing people that know how to play it right, a lot. Practicing it VERY fast paced helps you get better at it I think... a lot of people sneak around and camp this map too much and it's like they don't know the timing and how of when to drastically pick up the pace so you can take control and spawn rape... like choosing to camp RA when you're stacked and your opponent spawns in rail room. It doesn't matter if RA is about to spawn in a lot of cases, if he runs away and RA is about to respawn near him you know exactly where he's going and you can get there quick. I use this mind-game all the time... i'd much rather have my opponent running away with RA / blaster than have a good wep, or any weapon at all. it's just an example though..... i'm not even too great at the map compared to several people in NA. a lot of it is just habitual from experience with always dueling people like dahang, deft, or whoever on the map. It's the most fun map too :)
  • Insightful
    Informative
    Funny
    Nice Job / Good Work
    Rock On
    Flawless Logic
    Well-Reasoned Argument and/or Conclusion
    Demonstrates Exceptional Knowlege of the Game
    Appears Not to Comprehend Game Fundamentals
    Frag of the Week
    Frag Hall of Fame
    Jump of the Week
    Jump Hall of Fame
    Best Solution
    Wins The Internet
    Whoosh! You done missed the joke thar Cletus!
    Obvious Troll Is Obvious
    DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
    DEMO OR STFU
    Offtopic
    Flamebait
    Redundant
    Factually Challenged
    Preposterously Irrational Arguments
    Blindingly Obvious Logical Fallacies
    Absurd Misconstrual of Scientific Principles or Evidence
    Amazing Conspiracy Theory Bro
    Racist Ignoramus

 

El Box de Shoutamente

Last 10 Shouts:

 

Costigan_Q2

November 11, 2024, 06:41:06 AM
"Stay cozy folks.

Everything is gonna be fine."

There'll be no excuses for having TDS after January 20th, there'll be no excuses AT ALL!!!
 

|iR|Focalor

November 06, 2024, 03:28:50 AM
 

RailWolf

November 05, 2024, 03:13:44 PM
Nice :)

Tom Servo

November 04, 2024, 05:05:24 PM
The Joe Rogan Experience episode 223 that dropped a couple hours ago with Musk, they're talking about Quake lol.
 

Costigan_Q2

November 04, 2024, 03:37:55 PM
Stay cozy folks.

Everything is gonna be fine.
 

|iR|Focalor

October 31, 2024, 08:56:37 PM
 

Costigan_Q2

October 17, 2024, 06:31:53 PM
Not activated your account yet?

Activate it now! join in the fun!

Tom Servo

October 11, 2024, 03:35:36 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
 

|iR|Focalor

October 10, 2024, 12:19:41 PM
I don't worship the devil. Jesus is Lord, friend. He died for your sins. He will forgive you if you just ask.
 

rikwad

October 09, 2024, 07:57:21 PM
Sorry, I couldn't resist my inner asshole.

Show 50 latest
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
November 25, 2024, 09:04:51 PM

Login with username, password and session length