Firearms - Hunting/Target thread

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Haha! I wasn't seriously suggesting you do that though, lol.

PSA from the Focalor Foundation, Inc: Never buy unlicensed firearms, kids. (Unless they're cheap)

If the shit hits the proverbial fan, I've got some decent little tools to repel the barbarians from the gate. But for home protection I have a dirt cheap little family heirloom Springfield single shot 12 ga. Dunno how old it is, it was my dads. Not sure if he got it from his dad or if my grandpa got it from my great grandpa or what. It's got a fairly long barrel though, so it's a "Get off my lawn" gun, not a "get outta my house" gun. If they're IN the house, I have a Taurus Judge loaded with 410 0000 buckshot, which is like 3 or 4 ball slugs per shell. One of those hits you center mass and you're DONE. Probably not immediately though. I imagine those last 30 seconds would be pretty awful.

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Yeah it was a joke , and yeah I have a lot of shotgun rounds I wouldn't want to use the vast majority of the time. Don't need it going through someone then blowing holes in my house, not to mention other people. 00 hollow points *should* mostly eliminate that concern, yet still have devastating consequences.

Yeah I saw the made in turkey thing and thought the same thing. I figured I didn't HAVE to buy something I truly wanted for a self defense shotgun that I won't use much, although ideally it would be an 88 maverick to achieve the best of all worlds for cheap and reliable. I already have a mossberg 500 with a lengthy barrel on it.

The thing I vaguely referred to is a fire extinguisher from the 60's. It can be filled with any liquid, and pressurized with any air compressor from home depot. There's YouTube videos of similar setups. It's 3.5ft tall about and 1ft diameter, lol. It can hold a lot.

My brother recently bought 3 shotguns, an ar 15, and a glock. Lol. He resides an hour away from Macon.

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https://www.ableammo.com/catalog/ar15-tools-accessories-sale-online-discount-prices-c-19175.html

Stock up on 30rd AR mags while you still can. Another couple of mass shootings and a Democrat president with a hard-on for hating the NRA and they'll permanently ban them.

What's better than 30rds? SIXTY!

https://www.ableammo.com/catalog/surefire-mag5-15m4-223-remington556-nato-black-magazine-mag560-p-130439.html

I'm BEHIND the bump stock ban. That shit should've been common sense from day 1. It effectively makes a semi-auto behave like a full auto. Internally in an automatic machine gun, it's the same kind of process making it do that. And no one who isn't going into an active theater of war has a legitimate legal need for something like that.

But the clip size stink they wanna raise now... uh uh. I don't see the point. Unless you outlaw ALL semi-auto weapons, clip size is largely an irrelevant thing. Someone can still fabricate an extended clip from items scavenged from a yard sale.

All in all, I just wanna say fuck the Democrats, because it's my GOD GIVEN RIGHT by holy decree from Thomas Jefferson himself to murder people with firearms if I want to.

Holy shit. It's occurred me... and should to everyone else as well.... that This is probably just about the ONLY messageboard on the entire internet where I could say that and I wouldn't get mobbed to death or banned immediately. This is why I keep coming back.

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Yeah I fully support the bump stock ban also. The Democrats are indeed on a slippery slope of banning weapons. "Assault weapons" are just making a .22 caliber round 3 thousandths bigger, but heavier, and doubling the velocity for it. The end result is certainly different on impact,  but it's clear that that they really only care about how scary it looks or how many bullets are in a magazine. I've never owned an AR, but I always think about buying one soon before they succeed in banning them. And when they do, all tactical/scary looking firearms will be next, then semi-auto 22's.

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Well if we're being honest, one of the draws to the "AR-15" market is how they look like the guns in Call of Duty. And if you're going to use one for legitimate hunting purposes (not just to HAVE and plink targets with... maybe one day shoot your wife with it... or she shoots you with it... that got dark, wtf) they make several that look a little less menacing. And even those can start looking menacing once you start adding the accessories, forward grips, range finders, optics, etc. But they're functionally almost the same as a Remington Woodsmaster. IF they do outlaw "AR platform" rifles, hopefully they'll forget to include rifles like the Remington Woodsmaster. Remington makes several VTR variations (varmint tactical rifle, usually smaller cal: 22LR & 223) which have classic M16 style stocks, and makes them look more "family friendly".

And if they outlaw AR rifles, I gotta think they'd probably also outlaw AR platform shotguns as well, right? You hear less about them because... I dunno, maybe people are using bullets more for their murderin' and killin'. Same principle though. It's simply an semi-auto/autoloader on a frame for extensive customization. And that's the shame if it has to go away. Hunters like how you can upgrade and customize them for different seasons and different game. (Personally, I don't much care, I prefer old school bolt action in larger caliber - one shot and done)

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Yeah people are obsessed with that game. I've never played it. For me guns are kinda like guitars. That double barrel I saw and posted a pic of made me think man, this thing is BADASS!!! Opposed to the emperor I just bought that I  put in my closet and haven't messed with it.

That whole menacing look doesn't do anything for me, even though sure they're cool and fun, but like you said there's many makes and models that do practically the same thing. I'm not sure if the language in the legislation will say "assault weapons" (scary armalite and things that look like AR's), or "semi-auto assault weapons with .223 rounds". Really I think they'll ban all semi-auto .223 round shooting rifles that are even half-way like an AR, AND anything that looks "menacing". They'll have a lot of wiggle room to take whatever.

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Looking at crossbows right now. I've actually never fired one, but the idea of shooting targets in the yard and hunting with it seems fun. I found this one that looks like a good deal:


https://www.amazon.com/CenterPoint-Sniper-Crossbow-Package-Camouflage/dp/B0179XHY3Q/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=crossbow&qid=1586140863&sprefix=cross&sr=8-5

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I've been avoiding going out at all, but I'm considering putting on a mask and going to the local pawnshop down the street to see if I see any good deals on firearms. I'll probably hold off though.

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Are you sure it's even open? It shouldn't be. Most places around here aren't as far as I know... I don't actually get out and go looking though.

Not personally familiar with Centerpoint bows, but they seem to be decent. I'm guessing that one tosses a bolt at about 370fps, thus the 370 in the name. That's pretty good. 185lb draw weight is okay, but many crossbows have a bit more behind them, usually 200+. That one looks like a pretty bare bones model, no bells and whistles to speak of, does what it's supposed to, but doesn't really compare to the better ones. Crossbows aren't usually cheap... unless they're "cheap" crossbows. You'll pay as much for a good crossbow as you will for a rifle, so it ain't really a cheap "alternative". The good part about it is you get an extra month (longer total hunting season) before rifle season starts to stalk the woods without deer being so skittish from the bullets. With a good laser rangefinder scope, crossbow hunting is almost downright CHEATING, lol. I've practiced MANY hours with a compound bow and rangefinder, at different angles, and I can guess pretty good which pin or which gap between pins to use to line up a shot. But with a crossbow, you can do ridiculous shit like hit a dime sized circle on a target 10 times in a row without having years or even days practice, within an hour maybe, it's fucking incredible.

Unless you're wanting something CURRENT with the most advanced features, which you probably aren't if it's your first bow, then yeah, go used for sure. No sense in spending almost a grand or more on something you might just use for target fun for a month or two and then leave it in the closet to never be touched again.

But if you wanna spend lots of money... Excalibur makes the best crossbows and currently make a few that supposedly do over 400fps.

I had 2 at one point, but I gave one away. Had Parker Cyclone Express (gave it to a friend), and still have my old Excalibur Equinox. I never use it though. I enjoy old-fashioned compound bow hunting more. For compound bows, I have 3, but only ever use 1. One is an old Alpine Nitrous n2o (not mine in picture, pic stolen from the web), which I only bought because I like the skull camo pattern on it, lol. It's a decent bow, but not my favorite. Also have a PSE Omen Max, which is a great bow with a really good speed (370fps I think), but it requires adjustments fairly often (which I PAY someone ELSE to do), so I stopped using it. But my favorite, which I will use FOREVER, is my old trusty Mathews Z7 solocam. SOLO cam, draws super smooth and quiet, gets about 325fps. They don't make them anymore, but they were pretty popular and you can find them all over the web.

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Had a little bit of downtime at work and was able to drive to my house for the day. Hadn't been there in a couple weeks so I had time to open up my crossbow and assemble it. Got a nice huge crossbow target. Amazon has shit for so cheap compared to the outfitting and sporting goods stores.

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Here is a little .22 I bought for a project awhile back. I'm about to be without work for 5-6 weeks so I'll have time for it. I'm going to tap the inside of the barrel to get a threaded tip on it, then I'll order one of those $30 mini suppressors off Amazon. Got quite a bit of 32 grain hollow point rounds and I'll set up something with 3/4 inch ply behind it maybe(trees behind that). If I'm shooting at something sustainable with that behind it the destruction should be nice with hollow points and they shouldn't go through everything. That way I'll have that coupled with the crossbow for some fun target shooting in the yard without pissing off neighbors.

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Dude, I switch up all 4 rotational ways to take pictures with my phone and it's never right. Fuck it.