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Tell me why it is again that you refuse to help yourself by doing something that you say is not hard to do.

While you're at it, explain how you not sending the trace info has any value as a bargaining chip when nobody but you is harmed by this lack of action.

Go.

Everyone can see your "ask questions incessantly and never answer one when cornered" troll style quite clearly now.
It's actually cute that you think you're being extra witty by trying to bury the simple questions that shit on you under constant questions of your own. Sadly everyone else knows the answers to them that you are unable to address.

My work here is done. Enjoy your ban, broseph.

Please.  What question haven't I answered?    I answered everyone of yours.  If I missed one, re-post and I will.  And you STILL have not answered this one:

In other words, its okay for you to fool around in a thread and be off topic and waste time -- but its not okay for me?    How is that fair?   It seems like you have a double standard. 

So now you leave when I catch you with your pants down?   Cool move bro.   

I'm not sure you know the definition of the word "troll". 


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Tell me why it is again that you refuse to help yourself by doing something that you say is not hard to do.

While you're at it, explain how you not sending the trace info has any value as a bargaining chip when nobody but you is harmed by this lack of action.

Go.

Unban and I will do.   Simple.

And why is there a double standard?   In other words, its okay for you to fool around in a thread and be off topic and waste time -- but its not okay for me?    How is that fair?   

Go.

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Tell me why it is again that you refuse to help yourself by doing something that you say is not hard to do.

While you're at it, explain how you not sending the trace info has any value as a bargaining chip when nobody but you is harmed by this lack of action.

Go.

First of all, how do I know quadz will unban if I send the trace?   He never said so.   Second of all, the ban was not justified in the first place.   

Go.

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It's just so unfair that you're now unable to use this freely provided service as a result of your own actions.

And what exactly did I do wrong? 

Go.

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It's just so unfair that you're now unable to use this freely provided service as a result of your own actions.

This community is surely a cruel place to people who are unwilling to help themselves when repeatedly given the means and opportunity to do so.


Tell me why it is again that you refuse to help yourself.

While you're at it, explain how you not sending the trace info has any value as a bargaining chip when nobody but you is harmed by this lack of action.

Go.

That's not responsive.  I said:    In other words, its okay for you to fool around in a thread and be off topic and waste time -- but its not okay for me?    How is that fair?   It seems like you have a double standard. 

Now who is misdirecting, when they got caught with their pants down?


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dude i have used the trace program before, i can personally tell you it has no malware/virus. If you like playing q2, i don't see how hard it can be to download a small program and take up 15minutes of your time to run a trace and post the result here.

I agree its not hard, but why should I do that with a gun pointed to my head?   If quadz un-bans me I send the trace.  The ban was not justified. 

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This newbie got me to 6000 posts. He can eat the shit I'm throwing him all day long.

In other words, its okay for you to fool around in a thread and be off topic and waste time -- but its not okay for me?    How is that fair?   It seems like you have a double standard. 

(and this is exactly why the ban is unjustified).    Double standard.   Foc and dervish can joke, fool around waste time, but how dare I?

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So now I'm not allowed to propose a deal?   Where are these rules written?

You don't make the deals.


Explain why, in this situation, you should be the one proposing the deals.

Go.

Because I didn't do anything wrong or harmful.  To the extent Quadz was spending some time doing something -- how would I know that?  No one told me.     

And my guess is, Quadz just didn't really like my back and forth with foc more than anything.    Sinice it was only after many back and forths with foc that quadz suddenly jumped back in and said -- hey get me that winmtr and you are banned now until you do.   How is that fair?   We were no like 3 billion posts past that. 

Other than being annoying and argumentative in a thread that no one is forced to read, or respond to, what exactly did I do wrong?


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"No one cares" what you agree or disagree with.

Enjoy your ban.

That's fair and mature.  Thanks.  And by the way, that was in response to YOU:  "and wouldn't accept answers"  Not to mention foc's quesstion last night as to whether I still wanted the servers rebooted.   So I think people do care.


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PS: Demanding that we inform you about the concept of misdirection as an obvious misdirection technique: Good try bro. Get some better material.

So now I'm not allowed to propose a deal?   Where are these rules written?

See that's where you got it wrong.  I dont' have any devious agenda.   I'm not trying to misdirect anything.   You and others are trying to read some sort of hidden agenda into my posts.  No.   That's completely wrong.    I posted a question and argued with some posters, and now I'm satisfied with the answers.  And as part of that, I got into back and forth with a guy who was being funny/sarcastic and angry.   And why that's such a huge issue to those not involved in the back and forth, I am a little perplexed?   


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No one cares

You wasted the admin's time for no good reason and wouldn't accept answers...who knows how much time he's now wasted on you and your "questions" for a free service he provides and pays for...whether or not you went full troll mode after you didn't get what you cried for is irrelevant...your descent into willful troll-like ignorance and deflection and the time you made quadz waste on you makes you an asshole...

As I said above,  I ACCEPT THE ANSWERS!!   Okay?     I never asked anyone to do anything except my original request for a reboot.  I don't even know who Quadz is or what he does exactly.    And its not like I disappeared after my original question.  I did post a trroute and netgraph.  I then moved on to back and forth mainly with foc due to his humor and sarcasm.   

I didn't think anyone here (admin or not) cared or was paying attention after that.  Its not like people were saying :  hey Caesar, were spending 15 hours on network diagnostics work over here, can you assist us on your end (whether or not you are having ping/lag issues anymore)?   
   


And, I'll say it again (I HAVE NO MORE PING LAG QUESTIONS -- end of story, period).    No I don't want anyone to reboot anything.   OKAY??   People said it was the NET -- I BELIEVE THEM.  People looked at the tracert and negraph and gave opinions.  I NOW AGREE. 

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Nobody was debating the harm of rebooting servers as debate requires 2 parties.

The entire "harm" shtick was just your lame attempt at misdirection.

It's not debatable, and nothing is when the person on the other side of the debate is like you and has already formed a stupid nonsensical opinion based on nothing but their own assumptions. Your opinions will be unchanged by what anyone else says even if they provide evidence that perfectly disproves them so there is no reason for anyone else to waste their time debating that with you.

See.. there it is again. The wasting of time.

For some reason that concept keeps coming up when we talk about your actions.

Your q2 client will not connect to the servers, but you are not blackholed so you can run that trace any time in the 48 hour time span starting from when quadz posted saying "Sure, here's the deal". You know, the post of his you actually quoted before denying there was a 48 hour deal.

If you don't do what's asked of you in that period of time, that's on you. You'll only be wasting your own time.




PS: 6000 posts. I'm fucking amazing.

I'm not sure you understand the 48 hour thing.  That was from me - not quadz.   The 48 hour deal was what I PROPOSED to quadz.  I said since he banned me without prior warning that I had to provide a winmtr or else, I propsed he unban me first and then if I don't provide the winmtr within 48 hours he should ban.   He never said he would agree to that.   

As far as debate, I don't force anyone to read here, post here or respond.  So how is that wasting time?   If you don't want to respond don't respond.  If you don't want to read, don't read.   If you don't like the topic, ignore it.      And if you don't like the word "debate", I'll say that foc and I were going back and forth.   No one else was required to read, listen, respond or do anything, including you and quadz.   

And what am I misdirecting?  Maybe I'm missing something here, but this is a forum about a video game right?  This isn't Congress (isn't the whole point about Q2 and video games to essentially waste time)?   I didn't know there were some invisible rules that I broke or something. 

Since apparently you missed this part, I will say it again:     (I HAVE NO MORE PING LAG QUESTIONS -- end of story, period).    No I don't want anyone to reboot anything.   OKAY??   People said it was the NET -- I BELIEVE THEM.  People looked at the tracert and negraph and gave opinions.  I NOW AGREE. 

Is that clear?

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You should definitely keep asking stupid questions and demanding hundreds of answers of others while denying that your sole intention in this thread was to waste people's time for your own amusement.

You demand that we answer you, yet you haven't provided a single solid answer to anyone else's question other than posting a pic of a tiny netgraph that doesn't show anything useful, and that took people literally jumping through hoops to show you how (I'm betting you had it on the whole time and were just wasting their time too)

It's hilarious to watch you keep digging that hole you're in all the while refusing to run the trace that might provide the basis for concrete answers to your many questions.


That 48 hour time limit is running down as you post stupid crap instead of trace results.
Guess what happens when the last grain of sand falls thru that hourglass.

 :bomb:

What 48 hours?  Quadz didn't agree as far as I know so I don't know what 48 hours you mean exactly.  Also, I said I didn't care anymore about ping/lag, so I didn't need or want him to do anything.   I'll say it again (I HAVE NO MORE PING LAG QUESTIONS -- end of story, period).    No I don't want anyone to reboot anything.   OKAY??   People said it was the NET -- I BELIEVE THEM.  People looked at the tracert and negraph and gave opinions.  I NOW AGREE.  What more do you want from me?   Is that understood?   

While the thread got de-railed for sure, why is that a concern of yours or anyone else?  Why can't I banter or joke or whatever you call it with those taking shots at me (such as foc)?  I see plently of silly comments from foc in many threads and other people doing the same thing.    The thread MOVED ON from the original question -- okay?    It developed into a debate about harm caused by rebooting (HYPOTHETICAL) and now all this due to quadz actions.    Am I not allowed to fool around in this thread off of the original topic? 

And pretending I started a thread solely for nothing is ridiculous.  I asked, got answers and posted tracert and netgraphs.    While I got into some banter with some posters, so what? Why is that such a big deal?   And if I'm wasting their time, why did they keep reading and posting in this thread?   So they are not wasting time, but my posts are?  Okay, that's fair. 

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Quote from: X'tyfe on October 24, 2013, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: X'tyfe on October 24, 2013, 03:10:38 PM
Wait a second. Why was he banned? Did he cause any kind of trouble on the servers aside from here?

I've spent enough time trying to help this guy (running server-side ping traces etc.) that I think it's fair he makes the minimal effort required to provide the WinMTR trace from his end I've been asking for since page 2.

In the meantime the service to his IP is undergoing a "reboot" of indeterminate duration.


:razzberry:

By the way, I didn't specifically ask for your help.  I have no idea who you are or what you do around here.  So you are mistaken.

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Is the 48 hour deal on?

Sure, here's the deal: I have every confidence you can easily provide the requested data in far less than 48 hours.

Just checked.   Still not able to connect though.  The proposed deal was unban then I provide, As you gave no prior notice of any intent to ban if data was not provided.   Nor did it seem necessary in light of the general consensus that the net in general was the problem.  Clearly a ban under such circumstances is unwarranted and entirely unprecedented here.     

So deal as originally proposed?   :???:

Quadz???

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