So you been playing a long time but you cant get into the top 3 here's why......

[vibes]

he almost seems like Kobra

OH OH !


 

[[BTF] Reflex]

Kobra must have a totally different personality over at the EOM forums 

[vibes]

Kobra must have a totally different personality over at the EOM forums 

he's not @ the [EoM] forum

[[BTF] Reflex]

That wasn't my point,

it's moot anyhow

[X'tyfe]

it's moot anyhow

now that sounds like kobra

[ColdFlo]

Va.ghosts 9 no thats not what I'm saying at all, and yes its impossible to prove which is which(without some kind of monitoring script).  Well, for most people or a mod because they can't determine anything based on ingame sight like I can and because the United States standard of CRIMINAL Justice is proven anyway we want it proven.  Really I think any player that is not known to be good and is beating everyone by double digits and appears to many players to be moving faster than everyone else should be kicked and told not to do it.  There are many good players here that score that fast, but do not move that fast and those are the most leet people that play on these servers.  There are maybe 10 of them at most; the rest scoring like that have some kind of advantage.

[Ghost9]

You're right I forgot speed hacks.

[jägermonsta]

strafe jumping = speed hacks

 

[[BTF]Gator]

Va.ghosts 9 no thats not what I'm saying at all, and yes its impossible to prove which is which(without some kind of monitoring script).  Well, for most people or a mod because they can't determine anything based on ingame sight like I can and because the United States standard of CRIMINAL Justice is proven anyway we want it proven.  Really I think any player that is not known to be good and is beating everyone by double digits and appears to many players to be moving faster than everyone else should be kicked and told not to do it.  There are many good players here that score that fast, but do not move that fast and those are the most leet people that play on these servers.  There are maybe 10 of them at most; the rest scoring like that have some kind of advantage.

i did read through your entire first post.  i agree with a couple things, but do disagree with a large majority.  Especially the intent of the post, which is that people are pulling some grand heist of making the game extremely easy for themselves that skill can't make up for.  That is just plain wrong.  One of the great things about q2, and why i am still around, is that we can customize it and make it our own time and time again to keep from getting bored.  However, even taking ones own personal time to adjust settings so it will run at absolute maximum for each given computer just doesnt make up that much difference.  It still comes down to skill.

Also, what i read of your first post, and this one here is basically: "Anyone beating me is cheating".  Punk is completely legit, and uses no cheats whatsoever, including your incredibly overthetop explanations and ideas of them.  i have played in the same room as him, and he is dead legit.  i think you have a profound LACK of knowledge of the ability to move in the game.  The speed is coming from technique, and experience.  Period.  No other self/ego fluffing/supporting feelings.  You have been away.  You werent that great when you left, and you are rusty now, AND the game has moved on from where you were then. 

The single greatest thing about this game is the fact that after all these years, it is still evolving.  The average player is better then ever, and the core players are very long time players with many, many years of skill.  Also, TastySpleen is becoming the Sun in the solar system of q2 servers, and as the most population is here, it attracts others.  Others that played on other servers you had no idea of, and have no idea how good these people are.

Your idea that someone YOU dont know that is winning and stomping the shit out of your average skill self should be banned is completely proposterous.  You have this mentality that seems to support about 1% of the people that walk through these doors thinking A: You are something special to the game, B: you are more intelligent then all the dumbasses around you, C:you are up on a pedastal looking down at all the hapless retards swimming in a see of chaos beneath you.  You are incorrect.

[quadz]

ColdFlo,

Check out this movie: http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=4367.0

And check out these demos: http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=389.0

No cheating involved.  ('Cept red sweater hax.)

Also, consider spending a little time on servers other than vanilla, such as tdm-novice or jump.  Just to get a broader idea of what is possible in Q2...


Regards,

quadz

[[BTF]EyEsTrAiN]

Well, that was the most inane post I've read so far...today. So, people wouldn't be better than you because, oh, I dunno, they've been playing for 10 YEARS, but because they use "scripts".

Congratulations, you've made a complete ass of yourself. 

"When the diaper is full, and the load is stinky and unmovable, the water flows as I flush it down, just like your inane babble."
 

[reaper]

problem with q2 is the rules aren't clearly defined, but i don't think it's a big deal.
everyone who plays would say a wallhack/bot and such are cheats

[Whirlingdervish]

... but then there are the self-proclaimed "q2 purists" who swear that setting your gl_modulate higher than 1 is cheating.
same can be said for people who frown on using aliases and complex binds.

setting up your system for optimal performance by increasing polling rates and overclocking your cpu, is not cheating in any way, neither is binding your controls a certain way that you like them, or setting your video output settings to more useful values.

None of this will make you "move better/faster" or "aim more accurately".

these are both based entirely on your brain processing what is going on in-game and sending the appropriate signals to your body which in turn uses muslces to control the input devices in the way that YOU have decided to use them, at the speed that you are physically capable of using them, and with a level of reliability and accuracy that comes straight from you.

It doesn't change any of the code of q2 or even how it reacts to certain inputs.
Twiddling with your settings only changes the rate at which you can input your commands to the game thru the computer, the rate at which the game spits back its output in the form of digital sound and graphix, and the appearance/format of those outputs. Very few settings that you can change in your config will give you any advantage in terms of what you can and cannot do as compared to someone using the bone-stock q2 settings. (fps for certain trick jumps and fov to see more than you normally would to the sides.)

Optimizing these rates and setting up your config in a way that you are more comfortable and effective, are no more cheating than using a cable modem against dial-up HPBs.

it might not be exactly fair to the nubs who don't know any better, and the people who can't afford a great computer or a high speed connection, but life isn't fair and people don't play competitive fps games to run around with exactly the same amount of frags as everyone else. Someone has to win, and those who know the most about the game and have the nicest equipment stand a better chance of doing so, but are not garaunteed a win no matter how much they know or what their shit costs.

Some dude with a shitty comp with a 200 ping, running in software mode with stock settings could always win if his playing skills made up for his equipment and lack of config tweaking.

[haunted]

Maybe someday I will be able to get in one of the top 3 spots at vanilla.

[HabibGoatAss]

Well said Gator.  You have a silver tongue, I mean keyboard . . .