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Re: global warming - it's really pissing me off
« Reply #345 on: July 02, 2013, 12:50:50 AM »

Whether you believe it or not, we can't ignore it, and things need to change. The stakes are very high, (survival vs extinction), and our government needs to take precautions. If that means amping up the "BUY GREEN" campaign for cars, appliances, lightbulbs, to get things started then so be it. At worst it turns out to be nothing, but we earn energy independence. So buy green anyway. And haunted, grow a brain already

http://www.whitehouse.gov/share/climate-action-plan
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« Reply #346 on: July 02, 2013, 05:40:24 AM »
I apologize for actually knowing what global warming is.
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« Reply #347 on: July 02, 2013, 07:40:06 AM »
that's what you get for attempting to debate with 2dum using facts and an understanding of the topic.

reminds me of that one idiot from a couple years back with the 5 different abortion threads where he just blathered and linked shock value bullshit and ignored every fact or question presented him.
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Re: global warming - it's really pissing me off
« Reply #348 on: July 02, 2013, 09:36:34 AM »
that's what you get for attempting to debate with 2dum using facts and an understanding of the topic.

reminds me of that one idiot from a couple years back with the 5 different abortion threads where he just blathered and linked shock value bullshit and ignored every fact or question presented him.

Hahaha! I had already intended to say something about it before I even read your post, but this comparable to the Tubby abortion thread.

Has anyone maybe considered the possibility that "global warming" is merely an issue meant to distract from the fact that widespread burning of gasoline sprays compounds into the atmosphere that cause medical problems like cancer? Truth be told, burning gasoline isn't as detrimental to the environment as it is to the human being living IN the environment. Decades after science was advanced enough to unequivocally prove that nicotine was addictive and that modern flue curing methods preserved higher amounts of nicotine in tobacco leaves, tobacco companies were using their wealth to prevent that information from reaching consumers. Any one single oil company has more money than all of the big tobacco companies combined. You really think they're gonna allow their product to be villainized without a fight? They know what it's doing to people, which is why they choose to compromise by adding ethanol to it. Ethanol does not increase efficiency in the product, it merely dilutes it to reduce the amount of carcinogens being expelled whilst allowing them to continue making profits. It's kinda like... when tobacco companies started putting filters on their cigarettes.
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« Reply #349 on: July 02, 2013, 01:50:39 PM »
I apologize for actually knowing what global warming is.

if you are 100% certain it doesnt exist, why do 97% of scientists and president obama disagree with you

and heres that graph


The blue band shows how global average temperatures would have changed due to natural forces only, as simulated by climate models. The red band shows model projections of the effects of human and natural forces combined. The black line shows actual observed global average temperatures. As the blue band indicates, without human influences, temperature over the past century would actually have first warmed and then cooled slightly over recent decades.1  Image Reference: Hegerl et al.2
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« Reply #350 on: July 02, 2013, 02:13:38 PM »
that post has nothing to do with my point at all.

the medieval warming period peaked in 1000, starting at about year 800. The little ice age began began it's trend at about year 1250, peaking at 1500, and officially "ended"(=when climate comes back to the median trend line) at about year 1850. This current warming trend that we're on dubbed as "Global Warming" will peak somewhere between 2100 being that the cooling spikes are longer than the warming ones; our planet has been cooling down climatically for millions of years now.
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« Reply #351 on: July 02, 2013, 07:03:15 PM »
This graph does not explain how adding ethanol to gasoline constitutes "going green" when doing so actually causes the fuel (containing gasoline) to burn quicker. The amount of oil being "conserved" by this 15% ethanol gasoline is negligible at best when considering you end up filling up more often due to the lower mpg. If 97% of scientists and President Obama are so convinced that global warming is happening, why aren't they demanding a 100% ethanol fuel standard? Consider the fact that you would get a lower mpg with 100% ethanol than you would achieve with unleaded gasoline. HOWEVER... ethanol is cheaper to produce and completely renewable, which would likely result in an overall drop in price at the pumps.
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« Reply #352 on: July 02, 2013, 08:55:19 PM »
Well yeah, but there is of course the downside of certain food items going up in price, which already have, due to ethanol even being added to typical gas up to 10%.

to be a bit more specific with this, global warming is like I said; it's man making what should be the smallest warming spike we've ever had turn into the ~90,000th largest warming spike we've had.. Mankind is going to make this warming period warmer than the last few/several periods due to increasing the rate of this one, but our planet has already seen rates of change such as these absurdly more drastic than the current. 700,000 year old horses, or whatever mammal ancestor you can think of endured in such conditions, as did a thousand other species.

I am open-minded to the fact that I am underestimating global warming a bit, but the reality of the issue is NEVER reported, so I logically lean towards a lot of it being hype; not to mention that in the grand scheme of things it does in fact seem to be mostly hype.
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Re: global warming - it's really pissing me off
« Reply #353 on: July 02, 2013, 10:40:00 PM »
I don't think global warming is anything all by itself to be concerned about. If it exists, it exists because of the toxic shit we put into the atmosphere, and it's that same toxic shit itself that will do far more harm than a few extra degrees of heat in the summer. 150 years ago, people weren't getting all kinds of cancers at young ages left and right. Coincidentally, billions of human animals weren't covering every square mile of the planet and burning gasoline on a daily basis back then either.

On the other hand, why should anyone give a shit one way or another. Even if scientists aren't in agreement that global warming spells imminent doom, the one thing you CAN be sure of is that they're in agreement on the fact that one day the sun will expand to the point that it'll fry the earth in it own juices and kill every living thing on it. So we're doomed anyway. The only possible hope for survival would be to find another planet similar in size and composition to move to. Due to the fact that space is infinite, it seems like a logistical impossibility.

We're born to lose. But at least we can take comfort in knowing that once the deadly cataclysm happens and every living thing is dead, there will FINALLY be no one left to talk about Kim Kardashian. And that, my friends, makes complete and total annihilation ALL WORTH IT.
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« Reply #354 on: July 03, 2013, 12:18:30 AM »
I don't think global warming is anything all by itself to be concerned about



Why should anyone give a shit one way or another



We're born to lose.

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« Reply #355 on: July 03, 2013, 01:25:48 AM »
I'll make a deal with you, fuckface. When global warming truly fucks us all, I'll shoot myself in the face with a 50 caliber handgun and leave everything I own to you. When it doesn't, I'll shoot YOU in the face with a 50 caliber handgun, drain your blood into a storm sewer, saw you into exactly 15 pieces, bury parts of you in all 11 Confederate states, and then go home and enjoy the feeling I'd get knowing that one less camel fucking arab who sucks at q2 was alive.
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You should've killed yourself after they got divorced. It was your fault, after all.
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« Reply #356 on: July 03, 2013, 03:54:07 PM »
ROFL  :lolsign:

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« Reply #357 on: July 03, 2013, 04:31:41 PM »
I'll make another deal with you. If you can ever beat me at a video game, you can have your +1 for my imaginary rage along with the +45 that I used to dickpunch your every claim of being better than me.

Since this will never happen due to the fact that you have inferior slave blood in your veins, please deposit my penis in your mouth, newbie.
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