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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #345 on: July 15, 2020, 04:46:26 AM »


This T-shirt would PISS some people off.

But seriously. I don't think people realize how small a virus is. They can't think for themselves. They just follow.

I was issued 2 n95 masks from work. I couldn't even imagine wearing it for more than an hour. It's 84 degrees here and extremely humid... At 3am. I'm in the south Tampa Bay area currently (luckily not St. pete, who just replaced most of their police with social workers), and the heat index is 101-105 daily (temp around 94). Sarasota required manadatory masks 2 weeks ago for almost all outdoor and indoor activities. Wearing thus mask in the afternoon literally makes you want to die. What the fuck are people thinking?

Oh wait. I know!! Somehow all the effects of this virus conveniently align with statism and collectivism.

Any free society requires that individuals exhibit a certain degree of self control. The more freedom, the more self control is required. If people cannot control themselves (personal responsibility, basic hygiene, keeping your distance from others.... What SHOULD be stressed), the state must control them (a known concept). Our culture has been degrading for decades, but much more so in the last 10 years. We have been rewarding irresponsible behavior for a long time. This discourages the concept of self control. It creates a certain degree of choas, so the state (and greedy politicians) have the excuse ("moral obligation") to intervene.

To me these masks are about like insisting a cotton Haynes T-shirt is the same as a raincoat.
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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #346 on: July 15, 2020, 07:27:45 AM »
Regarding the farts vs Coronavirus thing:

"If Masks Work, Why Can I Smell Farts?"


https://medium.com/geek-physics/if-masks-work-why-can-i-smell-farts-c0b8e10323c6
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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #347 on: July 15, 2020, 09:32:23 AM »
When Scott Adams cautions, "Your political opinions are assigned to you by your media sources", it's not mere hyperbole.

We've had the opportunity to observe this with swathes of public opinion flopping back and forth on the efficacy of masking based on what their preferred media sources are telling them that week.

Meanwhile, a few things we had figured out by 1919:

- Origin of Species
- General Relativity
- Droplet infection and its prevention by the face mask







There's decades of research since then, and we even have Dr. Fauci on video from a month or so ago just flat out admitting they lied about mask effectiveness in jan/feb out of fears of hoarding.

Of course masks aren't perfect. But they help. And we've known it for over a century.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #348 on: July 15, 2020, 01:06:43 PM »
I didn't say I agree with the T-shirt, I just said it will piss people off. The T-shirt simply highlights the point that people completely overestimate the effectiveness of the masks people are wearing during this plandemic. I doubt farts serve as a good example for any intelligent argument. lol. And I realize there are GOOD masks out there which catch large droplets and redirect the smaller ones (blown out the outsides of the mask). That reduces the distance traveled by the droplets, which when coupled with social distancing, yields a noticeable difference. But how many people are wearing good ones versus ones made of thin, loosely stitched cloth, knitted, or worse? I've seen someone smoke a cigarette outside a Walgreens, put it out, put their mask on, and head inside. They exhaled and smoke traveled directly through their mask (not around the outsides) like it wasn't even there. These wannabe masks aren't nearly as effective, but they are deemed acceptable by society.

I maintain that they choose masks instead of heavily stressing that people to act responsibly for a reason (they speak of social distancing, but it's obvious to me that many more people abide by the mask rule than the social distancing rule, not to mention they often touch their face underneath their mask and probably don't sanitize mearly as often as they should). The existence of chaos excuses the government for expanding its power. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion, and almost all of the changes that are being made because of it point in the same direction.
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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #349 on: July 15, 2020, 08:33:56 PM »
Thousands of people came to Brevard Co, FL for the launch of Americans (from american soil) to the Space Station for the first time in almost 10 years.  Thousands of people packed the beaches for Memorial Day weekend.

When this happened, I said let's see where the Covid numbers will be in 3 weeks.  It took about that long and the case numbers started to climb at a high rate. 
A month ago Brevard Co. had about 700 cases, now that number is pushing 4,000. 
When I saw the big increases in cases everyday, I knew the deaths would happen in the weeks that followed. 
Brevard Co. had 17 deaths less than 2 weeks ago, now we have 40 (20 so far this week). 
The numbers of cases continues to increase by about 100 a day.  The deaths will continue as well. 
The deaths start later but continue longer.  I think that we will continue to see a high number of deaths for quite a while.  :raincloud:
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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #350 on: July 16, 2020, 01:01:02 PM »
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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #351 on: July 18, 2020, 01:13:05 PM »

https://youtu.be/RBlyh96yL7Q

Narrative Portrayed: Cloth masks may increase infection probability.
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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #352 on: July 18, 2020, 07:29:36 PM »
youtu.be/RBlyh96yL7Q

Typical trash-tier science "reporting" from the mainstream media.

I dunno if Ingraham is ignorant about how science gets done, or is being deliberately duplicitous to push a narrative. But it's the same shtick they always pull on the MSM. Yank sentence fragments out of a published study and read them with concerned/surprised faces.

Nice poisoning of the well up front, too: "CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FROM THE VERY MEDICAL JOURNALS AND ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE LED TO BELIEVE ARE INFALLIBLE." This is such an ass-backward representation of how science gets done, it's hard to know if she's dumb or mendacious.

Cloth masks may increase infection probability.

The referenced 2015 study states multiple times it specifically can't make any claim about whether cloth masks increased infection rates vs. the no-mask case, as they didn't have a no-mask control group.

What the study does indicate is that cloth masks are near-useless at preventing infection for the wearer. Which I thought was fairly widely understood at this point (such studies certainly made the rounds on my social media feeds in jan/feb anyway.)

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Holy fuck. I'm reading the second study, and I'm going to downgrade Ingraham's reporting from trash-tier to literal enemy of the people level disinformation.

The conclusion of the study is that surgical masks worn by the infected significantly block droplet transmission of seasonal coronavirus (common cold) and influenza virus, as well as reduce aerosol (< 5μm) transmission with seasonal coronavirus.

INSTEAD OF REPORTING ON THAT, THE ACTUAL FINDING OF THE STUDY, Ingraham – mugging the tsk-tsk concern-face to the camera – focuses on the part that finds infected individuals don't shed much via droplets or aerosols by breathing normally. (I.e. when not coughing, shouting, singing, working out, etc.) This part is well understood and reported in multiple studies. BUT SHE IGNORED THE PART about the masks blocking coronavirus droplets and aerosols when people DO cough!

Get. Fucked. MSM.

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Re: Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19) Thread
« Reply #353 on: July 18, 2020, 07:34:50 PM »
Lol. I should have put that in quotes. I wasn't endorsing the narrative portrayed. And of course all the statements are taken out of context. I'd like to see the full context because it's very strange that those statements were even in any documentation provided by the WHO or especially the CDC.
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« Reply #354 on: July 18, 2020, 07:40:19 PM »
I wear decent "kn95+" masks when I'm around people. They're made in the USA, and have all of their inspection numbers and crap. I wear it because it does offer some protection. The vast majority of masks(cloth) are likely very ineffective and unresearched yet they're encouraged.

Really my stance is "better safe than sorry" so I wear the 'best' mask i can get ahold of when I'm out in public(I try to just avoid those situations to begin with though). Can't help but notice that the country has been completely divided into selfish no mask wearing idiots and freedom surrendering idiot sheep, and certain people are loving that.
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« Reply #355 on: July 18, 2020, 08:40:28 PM »
Yeah for real. The mask issue is so much bigger than avoidance of high risk situations, lol. There's no inbetweeners. Just mask worshippers and people who think this is 150% a hoax. And many from both groups aren't even social distancing or sanitizing.
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« Reply #356 on: July 19, 2020, 06:38:44 AM »
... I'm going to downgrade Ingraham's reporting from trash-tier to literal enemy of the people level disinformation.
...

Get. Fucked. MSM.

 :ptb: :smiley_aagd:

WHAT? HOW? HOW? How is this bitch on Fox news? How did she get past standards and practices? I mean... I don't even wanna jerk off to her! It's been the long established tradition that if you're a woman working for Fox news, you must look at least 88% like a porn star or bikini model. Megyn Kelly. Kimberly Guilfoile. Usually the titties detract from the dumb shit they say. I was able to pay attention to ALL of what she said... and it wasn't good.
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« Reply #357 on: July 19, 2020, 09:11:40 AM »

https://youtu.be/-yowCWijiOM


https://youtu.be/OvOdlE985vw

"Florida added fatal motorcycle accident to covid death count"

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« Reply #358 on: July 19, 2020, 09:38:32 AM »


Daily deaths just keep going down. Hopefully we don't see a catastrophic spike in the coming weeks due to all the new cases and everyone being shocked that when you re-open an economy you'll undoubtedly see an uptick in cases, especially states like Florida, which revolves around tourism.
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« Reply #359 on: July 19, 2020, 10:07:03 AM »
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279461/

This short article from 2008 reflects my thoughts rather well.
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