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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #720 on: September 15, 2019, 12:53:20 AM »

Responding to: http://forum.tastyspleen.net/quake/index.php?topic=11463.msg225472#msg225472
(But here, so as not to inundate the Movie thread with politics.)


edit: Hmmm. Was not aware of it until just now when out of curiosity I went googling, but apparently YouTube has banned Varg from their platform because they don't want to promote "hate speech". If he had any videos promoting hate speech, that would be fine. But MOST of his videos did NOT, and in the interest of GOD DAMNED AMERICAN FREE SPEECH... I personally think they should've been left the hell alone. Free speech gets eroded a millimeter at a time. This only gets worse.
To be fair, the First Amendment only applies to actions taken by the government. Private companies are allowed to put whatever the hell they want in their TOS and ban people from their platforms for anything. (Also, it doesn't apply to non-Americans.)

The First Amendment doesn't exist in a vacuum. If we didn't value free speech, then we need not care who undermines it, whether government or private enterprise.

If freedom of speech is a foundational principle, we should notice when it's being eroded.

The tech monopolies are having it both ways, increasingly acting as both publisher and platform.

There's observable collusion between social media giants, payment processors, banks, and internet infrastructure providers (e.g. server hosting and DNS) as they act in concert to deny a platform to websites and apps whose mission statement is mere dedication to hosting constitutionally protected speech.

Which leaves us in a scenario whose description should be an oxymoron:

It is no longer permitted to host a website within the United States whose mission is to platform constitutionally protected speech.

When such a site gains sufficient popularity to attract notice, and if its owner refuses to implement the censorship demanded by the tech cabal, then its app will be pulled from the Apple and Android stores, its browser extension will be removed from Firefox and Chrome, they will be dropped by PayPal and Stripe and MasterCard, and Chase Bank will cancel their accounts, and their web server hosting will be cancelled and their DNS provider will drop them. They will be unpersonned on social media, to the extent that other users on Facebook or Instagram may not even mention their website name in an "uncritical manner" lest they too be subject to penalty.

None of this is speculation; it has already happened.

The question of why it's not possible to host a site dedicated to free speech in the United States, cannot be justified by the answer "well the whole infrastructure is owned top to bottom by private companies and they can suppress whoever they like."

Not good enough.

Time, perhaps, for an Internet Bill of Rights.



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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #721 on: September 15, 2019, 11:25:02 AM »
(Speaking in regards to Varg Vikernes and YouTube...)
It was hard to tell just by his ThuleanPerspective videos on YouTube alone that he was someone who would be categorized as an anti-semitic "nazi". I'm not sure if he'd qualify 100% as a neo-nazi, mostly because he omitted explicit discussion about that in his videos, probably because he wanted to AVOID giving YouTube an excuse to remove his content. And that's precisely why I found some of his videos to be interesting enough to watch, because he DID omit the overtly racist bullshit and he discussed topics intelligently. If the videos had been an assorted collection of nothing but rants about "jews and arabs are inferior, they run the world banks, blah blah", then I would've never wasted any time watching them. The vast majority of the time, his videos were only ever about 2 things: off-grid independent survivalist style living, and northern european religion and history. And even though he COULD'VE steered his narrative towards frothing hate speech when discussing religion and history, it was almost always a factual presentation aside from his opinion. And sometimes he would give a slight opinion on something in that area, but he was smart enough to know not to let it become anything that could be called "hate speech".

And we call companies like Facebook "private" companies who have the constitutional right to deny service to anyone they want because they own the service. But do they really? When it is something so widely used by society, it kinda becomes "society" in a way (or at least a representation of it), and that company then gains the powerful ability to silence anyone they want and give an inaccurate representation of what society really IS.

Think back to how DUMBFOUNDED all the analysts and experts on ABC were on election night when Trump took the vote. They had carried on with the narrative that "There's no way Trump will win. No one would vote for Trump unless they're racist." for so long that they convinced themselves... and many of US TOO,... that they were right. Some people are still convinced that Trump never actually fairly and legally won the election, and mostly because they are still bought into the narrative that there's no way someone like him could win.

YouTube has become so central to our society now that it's become a major vein FOR free speech. It's how normal everyday people communicate with others, kinda like a telephone in a way. Freedom of speech belongs TO THE PEOPLE, not the corporations who make their decisions based on money and self interest. If YouTube can deny a voice to someone, that sets a precedent for the phone company to deny service to individuals as well. Maybe one day the phone company starts investigating your Facebook page or your online blog, and they see where you posted something that was critical of the MeToo movement in some way, or maybe hinted at the idea that 9/11 wasn't everything it appeared to be. Well people like you are obviously "toxic" and must be rooted out. So they cut off your cell phone service. They cut off your home phone. They cut off service to the business you work at until that business fires you and you no longer use their phones anymore.

Can the United Postal Service refuse to deliver your mail because they didn't like a comment you left on a messageboard about something?

Can a hospital refuse to treat you because you called someone a n*gger on Twitter once, and they don't want to perpetuate your racism by helping you stay alive to populate the world with that toxic opinion?

Sounds farfetched an impossible (and hopefully it is)... but I also thought it was impossible for the left to censor things MORE than the conservative right-wing christian kooks tried to back in the 80's.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #722 on: September 17, 2019, 01:55:34 PM »
Looks like they really got him, this time!


https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1173582346139963397

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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #723 on: September 18, 2019, 01:31:44 AM »
"He put a few pancakes in his pocket..."

WHO THE FUCK... besides these crazy guys...



 ...puts pancakes in their pocket?
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« Reply #724 on: September 18, 2019, 03:12:51 PM »
Quadz raises some interesting points about free speech, and what social media companies should and should not be able to do with their platforms.

It should be noted here that certain kinds of speech are *not* protected: if you communicate threats, or announce your intention to commit a crime, that's not counted as free speech. Saying "all [insert group of people here] are scum and should be killed" probably counts as incitement to violence and probably also isn't protected free speech. I'm completely in support of things of that nature being removed from online platforms.

I however DO support free speech in any and all its forms. As the old adage goes, I might not like what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it. However, that works both ways: I also reserve the right to argue with you if I disagree! :)
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #725 on: September 23, 2019, 11:58:19 AM »
Perfect 5-word troll creates maximum cognitive dissonance:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAip2O0-k10


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« Reply #726 on: September 23, 2019, 05:27:26 PM »
Pretty good sign Haha
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #727 on: September 23, 2019, 06:51:56 PM »
There not sure if a crime was committed.  :WTF:

What was crime worthy with that sign - ultimate troll  :lolsign:
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #728 on: September 24, 2019, 12:00:37 AM »
They (women) are right to be offended by that sign. They are wrong to be too chickenshit to say the REAL reason why they are offended by it. PC pussies win again.
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« Reply #729 on: September 25, 2019, 05:16:14 PM »
I'll be the first to say that Pelosi has found the long-awaited smoking gun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pJhi_0qII
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« Reply #730 on: September 26, 2019, 12:47:04 PM »
Five-year-old autistic boy ‘put on record as sex offender’ after hugging classmate
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A family in the United States says their five-year-old son with autism has been labelled a “sex offender” after he hugged a fellow classmate.

Nathan is a nursery school pupil at East Ridge Elementary in Chattanooga, Tennessee. School officials said he was warned several times but overstepped his boundaries in hugging another child.

“He doesn’t know what he’s doing wrong,” Ms Putnam said.

“It was disclosed that it will go in his record for the rest of his life that he is a sex offender,” she said. “This child is autistic, he comprehends and functions very different than your typical five-year-old. What do you do?

“Who do you turn to for help when the school will not even listen to the child’s doctor when he explains the child’s difficulties in his comprehension of simple things such as boundaries?”

What a time to be alive.

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« Reply #731 on: September 26, 2019, 02:32:05 PM »
What a time to be alive.


This is my to reaction to... just about everything these days. Pretty much just shake my head at it all and only feel pity.

It'd be beneficial for them if their own children were autistic, although the kid may not mutually benefit from being raised by people that dumb.
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« Reply #732 on: September 26, 2019, 06:32:09 PM »
THAT FUCKING RAPIST.
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« Reply #733 on: September 26, 2019, 06:59:10 PM »
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« Reply #734 on: September 26, 2019, 08:05:16 PM »
This gentleman plays a character who indulges in effusively loquacious political rants; but I liked the analysis leading into the 2nd half especially:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqH-JhUFyBc

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