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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #285 on: November 10, 2016, 08:34:27 PM »
My reaction to several people wanting Hillary in prison:

The whole notion of trump prosecuting Hillary once in office is absurd. Of all the wild things trump said on the campaign trail(things that won't happen once he's in office whether he realizes it or not) that is probably the least likely, no matter the damning evidence that comes out. Can you imagine how we'd look like to other countries if the person that won the election threw the competition in jail? And that's not even considering what a fiasco this election was already.
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« Reply #286 on: November 10, 2016, 08:36:31 PM »
Trump protester really gives a shit over the election

And to think everyone said her degree in postmodern feminist dance therapy would be of no use!




Found myself generally in agreement with the points raised in this rant:


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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #287 on: November 11, 2016, 12:12:50 AM »
From what a few people in the scat videos comments say, that not a current video, its something from 2012 rehashed. Go figure.

Kids doing walkouts in public schools to protest the election, assholes in Los Angeles blocking the freeway to protest the election... and supposedly some cunt shitting on a Trump sign in public... get the fuck over it. Nobody's gonna give the presidency to Clinton no matter what happens. They can riot and burn 100% of L.A. to ashes and it wouldn't change a fucking thing.
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« Reply #288 on: November 11, 2016, 06:58:22 AM »
Ahh, confirming what I'd summed up really. Neither did seem an attractive choice in any way, and you're spot on with the comparison to brexit. I (we) even got propaganda leaflets through the letterboxes on an almost weekly basis, it was painful to read for both sides of the coin! I am amazed at how few people seem capable of reading between the lines though, seeing everyone caught up in the frenzy of brexit was hilarious and saddening at the same time, so many misinformed, irrelevant opinions floating around social media and in person!

Best of luck with Trump, I hope he has the good sense to surround himself with people that can make the right decisions for him, almost.. haha!

Regarding the walkouts, protests etc.. similarly to brexit, people got fired up too late! Should've thought about this beforehand and took it a little more seriously initially, it astounds me how he became a candidate let alone won the thing!
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« Reply #289 on: November 11, 2016, 07:48:34 AM »
One big reason the Hilary supporters are so shocked and upset is the media had made Hilary president before the first vote was cast, voting day was just a formality.  When the election did not turn out the way they had been told for months, they went into shock and disbelief mode. 
Now that it has been a couple of days, their mood has migrated to anger (how could this happen) (I cannot let this happen).
You have celebrities who can usually get whatever they want, throwing temper tantrums and getting their followers worked up with the belief that their actions will somehow change the results.

Lady Gaga Pushes Petition Demanding Electoral College Vote for Clinton - http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/11/10/lady-gaga-petition-electoral-college-vote-clinton/

I think the people who claimed that they would move to Canada if Trump won, should keep their word and take their followers with them.

These 23 Celebrities Said They'll Leave The Country If Trump Wins - http://townhall.com/tipsheet/catherinedunn/2016/09/08/these-10-celebrities-say-theyll-leave-the-country-if-trump-is-elected-n2215391

I know they are back peddling now,  but I don't see a big loss if any of these people left the country  :lolsign:
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« Reply #290 on: November 11, 2016, 08:50:32 AM »
The people saying abolish the electoral college and go by the popular vote because Hillary actually "won" are not necessarily correct even by their own logic. There is no western democracy that I know of that awards a plurality victory for president. Hillary didn't "win" the popular vote being that 52% of the country voted against her(by all constitutions that I'm aware of, to win something you need the majority). In other countries that go by the popular vote they do election rounds. France's eventual president in their 2012 election for example acquired just 28% of the vote in round 1. The rounds weed out the many 3rd party and other candidates until a true majority vote is achieved. There's no electoral college, and there's also no "nadering" the vote like in 2000 in the US.

There's an issue though. Voter turnout always decreases with runoffs and historically right winged candidates have a better showing. In any runoff in America(I don't recall which runoff or why, but I remember the stat) I recall there being a 30% decrease in turnout and it the vast majority was from the left. And that makes sense, the right typically has shown up to vote in general more so than the left.

So if we actually went by the popular vote there would be a lot of question marks. Would the voter turn out be substantially less in the runoff particularly due to the two least popular candidates ever? Would trump being so close provoke the left to show up to vote more the 2nd time around? And how many stubborn 3rd party voters would have switched over? It's very possible that trump still would've won. I think Gore would've definitely won under those circumstances in 2000, though.
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Re: Current Politics & History Only Thread
« Reply #291 on: November 11, 2016, 09:10:20 AM »
Regarding the walkouts, protests etc.. similarly to brexit, people got fired up too late!

Eh, not really. I guess you didn't notice the massive amount of media attention the anti-Trump protestors were getting when they'd show up at each and every Trump rally in the many months before the election. It became physically violent a few times. I think someone else posted a video around here somewhere of an anti-Trump protestor falsely claiming that a Trump supporter grabbed her titty, and she started getting even MORE confrontational with the person she was arguing with, and then outta nowhere, another Trump supporter reaches into the crowd with a can of pepper spray and spritzed her right in the eyeballs at nearly point blank range. :D People have been fired up about this election for the past year or more.
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« Reply #292 on: November 11, 2016, 12:57:16 PM »
Hidden Camera Video Shows Democrats Sent Agitators To Trump Rallies - http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/hidden-camera-video-shows-democrats-sent-agitators-to-trump-rallies/
One good quote from the article - "it doesn't matter what the friggin legal and ethics people say, we need to win this motherfucker"

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« Reply #293 on: November 11, 2016, 05:05:50 PM »
I doubt  they really needed agitators to make those crowds look like a bunch of loudmouthed violent bigots with a minimal understanding of our system of government.

I think the words that have actually come out of Trump's face over the past couple of years are orders of magnitude more disturbing than the thought that someone might send people to cause a stink at one of those circlejerky rallies.

Did they think they could profusely chant about imprisoning someone's political opponent (who has not been convicted of anything in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law) and not have people try to disrupt this inherently un-American activity? How about how they were repeatedly exhorted to go intimidate people at the polling places?

If they were burning books I'd expect someone to show up and call them on it too.

When I showed up to vote at my polling place in an overwhelmingly democrat area, I (a big white guy) was accosted the moment I got out of my truck by 10 dumbshit kids in red shirts demanding to know who I was voting for. They were promptly told to fuck themselves.

This was 50 feet from the door of the polling station. I called the cops on the dumb fucks, because contrary to what the orange fucktard told them to go do, it's not legal to do that in this country.




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« Reply #294 on: November 11, 2016, 05:18:06 PM »
Hopefully this bitter loss for liberals finally gets them motivated to vote in mid-term elections, where they are found to vote less during than conservatives. That's about all the liberals can do. These protests will do nothing but make other liberals look bad.

At the moment, I feel sorry for the environment and people with pre-existing conditions under Obamacare. It looks like Trump will end up ruining both.
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« Reply #295 on: November 11, 2016, 07:30:49 PM »
Did they think they could profusely chant about imprisoning someone's political opponent (who has not been convicted of anything in a country where you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law)

That brings up another good question - Should Hilary have been charged and had her day in court ?

Retired Marine Gen. James Cartwright plead guilty to lying to the FBI, he could get up to 5 years and 250,000 fine.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/retired-general-charged-in-probe-of-classified-information-disclosure-229891

Sailor Denied 'Clinton Deal', Gets 1 Year in Prison for 6 Photos of Sub
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-19/sailor-denied-clinton-deal-gets-1-year-in-prison-for-6-photos-of-sub

If you or I had done the same things as Hilary, would we be facing charges ?

I doubt Hilary will ever face any charges because of her connections.
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« Reply #296 on: November 12, 2016, 01:39:57 AM »
Innocent until proven guilty? Yeah maybe. But when you delete and effectively destroy possible evidence that might show guilt... I'm inclined to wonder why. Just to get rid of e-clutter? Maybe. But you'd DEFINITELY do that kind of thing if you knew it could be used against you. It alludes to guilt. And I have nothing to prove it personally, this is just a theory... but what I think was in a handful of those messages was correspondance between herself and military officials conspiring to blame the Benghazi fiasco on a shitty youtube video and unorganized rioters, which if you remember, that was the initial narrative which was later proven to be bullshit, and for some reason, most Americans failed to become enraged by the fact that Washington LIED to us all about it like that. And think about WHEN it happened, September 2012... right around the corner from the 2012 election. A foreign debacle like that surely would've looked bad for Obama. And I also remember how VEHEMENTLY Colin Powell stated publicly that NONE of the missing emails contained anything to or from himself. How could he REALLY know that for sure. He would've naturally had occasion to email the Sec of State from time to time. Kinda makes me think he denies it in such dramatic fashion because he's hiding his guilt too.

Again, this is all conspiracy theory, I have no proof. But I'm not usually one to make up or believe in such garbage "theories.". HOWEVER... This theory is one I didn't read about, it's just what I infer all on my own from everything that I DO know about the situation. The pieces fit so well together that I had no choice but draw this conclusion. And all I can wonder is how come no one else can see it?

Everyone wants to rant about CLINTONS EMAILS CLINTONS EMAILS ARGH, but no one wants to venture guesses as to what was in them. Don't miss the forest for the trees, kids.
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« Reply #297 on: November 12, 2016, 04:47:14 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/12/us/politics/trump-president.html

I think this article hints that Trump probably did not want to win the presidency and was only running to boost his popularity and get attention, and also that he would rather be a puppet rather than actually implement policy.
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« Reply #298 on: November 12, 2016, 09:49:59 AM »
Reportedly Trump recently indicated his intention to preserve a couple popular provisions of the ACA (aka Obamacare.)

Although this article doesn't stress how premiums also continued to rise under Obamacare, it includes a fairly succinct recap of the difficulty of preserving features like "preventing insurance companies from denying covering because of pre-existing conditions", without also requiring healthy people to pay into the system (e.g. "individual mandate".)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/12/donald-trump-is-beginning-to-face-a-rude-awakening-over-obamacare/
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« Reply #299 on: December 01, 2016, 08:33:09 AM »
Trumps throwing more slop into the swamp. goldman sachs? really? he's going to amass all billionaire speculators into his cabinet. he's filling it with wall street worshippers.you would think it's a conflict of interest. don't tell me he is going to fix the economy by hiring billionaires because they know how to generate money. no they are going to generate money for themselves, using the system for themselves until it collaspes from the toxic debt and derivatives markets, while everyone else struggles.


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|iR|Focalor

October 17, 2019, 12:48:27 PM
Servers are doing it again.

0rbisson

October 12, 2019, 04:21:10 AM
Miss this game. Will come back for 1 last run some day

dataspel

October 10, 2019, 04:03:16 PM
back up thanks sir!
 

Admin

October 10, 2019, 03:53:32 PM
Strange, seems UDP packets are being blocked somewhere in the datacenter.

Oh, of course as I type this it starts working again. (Was about to submit a trouble ticket. Let's see if it holds up.)

dataspel

October 10, 2019, 03:51:10 PM
Servers down?
 

|iR|Focalor

October 10, 2019, 03:37:00 PM
Multiple people were experiencing it earlier. (fatknitty, etc) Several people timed out and DC'd in spurts. It's apparently doing it again.
 

|iR|Focalor

October 10, 2019, 03:32:24 PM
Definitely not.
 

Admin

October 10, 2019, 02:32:01 PM
Servers seem OK here?
 

|iR|Focalor

October 10, 2019, 02:07:52 PM
Yer servers are broke.

rikwad

October 06, 2019, 07:44:06 AM
Neat textures Unholy..thanks for the work! I have Elysium's deathmatch skins here if anyone wants:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1soI5iUSdbjULSevQTTWcbtSxhjh8R6__/view?usp=sharing

The ones you put up are his team skins, I think. Thanks again!



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