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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2010, 03:35:00 PM »
you can play to win or play to have fun.. nevertheless, ALL tactics are acceptable as long as it's a) helping you win at all or b) helping you have fun at all.

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thats how you worded it, shouldnt be an or, should be and, because you should always be havin fun while you play... if having fun was a choice when playing a game, why even play it?
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2010, 04:04:19 PM »
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2010, 05:29:59 PM »
HAHAHA!!!
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2010, 06:32:26 PM »
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #34 on: December 29, 2010, 06:42:00 PM »
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Komit is a great map to camp on,.
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2010, 06:53:19 PM »
campers ruin a good map like komit
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2010, 11:03:04 PM »
As long as you play by the server rules, I think you should play the game however you want, regardless of what others think. You have no moral obligation to play any other way outside of the server rules. This means you can execute strategies that people don't like, or find to be lame or skill-less, such as camping lift or spawn pads. Just remember that in the end, you're playing this game for yourself and no one else, just like you would for any other game you'd play.
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2010, 04:06:17 AM »
But it's like people who are good with nades: bastards!   :bomb:
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I did want to throw in my 2 cents here.

Railz is a unique FFA. The gameplay and the map layout is very dynamic. some maps are about holding down teritory (camping) and some are about running around a giant room and spawn fragging as many people as possible.

The impartant thing is that everyone starts with the same weapon and there is no armor. So there is no such thing as camping a weapon or item shopping.

The only way to be cheap is if there is a level with the only 8 spawn points standing in a line facing away from somebody that just stands there shooting. Something similar to LAB on vanilla where people stand in the hallway with a railgun and wait for people to teleport in. And that is just an issue with map design, I think it's a mistake to blame poor map design on players.
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2010, 08:05:56 AM »
The only way to be cheap is if there is a level with the only 8 spawn points standing in a line facing away from somebody that just stands there shooting. Something similar to LAB on vanilla where people stand in the hallway with a railgun and wait for people to teleport in. And that is just an issue with map design, I think it's a mistake to blame poor map design on players.

Well Said BTW!  Some maps are just horribly designed like jexdm2 is spawn rape central!!!

Only because of the design nothing more. :righteous: :righteous:
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2010, 08:21:53 AM »
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2010, 08:28:52 AM »
q2 camping is fine, any remotely competent player can flush a camper out easily after being camped once by them . camping in other games is fucking retarded, you have not felt anger until you've been cross mapped by some scrub with a full auto smg/ar/lmg sitting in a dark corner ADS. while I agree you are only playing for yourself, there is a degree of decency that I personally play by in all games with regards to just how gay im gonna play.
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Re: "Camping," or playing smart/strategically for the mod?
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2010, 10:41:33 AM »
its true that its easy to flush out a camper... if the other players let you... railz ffa can have like 10+ people all with instant killing rails shooting about usually a giant open space... so getting to a point where you can nail that idiot camper doesnt always happen
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« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2010, 11:23:47 AM »
its true that its easy to flush out a camper... if the other players let you... railz ffa can have like 10+ people all with instant killing rails shooting about usually a giant open space... so getting to a point where you can nail that idiot camper doesnt always happen

Railz is really dynamic in that if there is a camper, there are additional strategies that can ruin the camper's effectiveness. And usally the only reason why the camper is effective is because people have diverted their attention to him, making their own FPH rate bog down. Railz is won by maintaining the highest FPH. There are plenty of meta-game strategies that you can employ to ruin other people's FPH, even at the cost of your own if necessary.
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« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2010, 11:40:21 AM »
its true that its easy to flush out a camper... if the other players let you... railz ffa can have like 10+ people all with instant killing rails shooting about usually a giant open space... so getting to a point where you can nail that idiot camper doesnt always happen

Railz is really dynamic in that if there is a camper, there are additional strategies that can ruin the camper's effectiveness. And usally the only reason why the camper is effective is because people have diverted their attention to him, making their own FPH rate bog down. Railz is won by maintaining the highest FPH. There are plenty of meta-game strategies that you can employ to ruin other people's FPH, even at the cost of your own if necessary.

i still have the highest fph anyway even when flushing out campers :P so it doesnt matter to me...
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« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2010, 12:04:02 PM »
its true that its easy to flush out a camper... if the other players let you... railz ffa can have like 10+ people all with instant killing rails shooting about usually a giant open space... so getting to a point where you can nail that idiot camper doesnt always happen

Railz is really dynamic in that if there is a camper, there are additional strategies that can ruin the camper's effectiveness. And usally the only reason why the camper is effective is because people have diverted their attention to him, making their own FPH rate bog down. Railz is won by maintaining the highest FPH. There are plenty of meta-game strategies that you can employ to ruin other people's FPH, even at the cost of your own if necessary.

i still have the highest fph anyway even when flushing out campers :P so it doesnt matter to me...
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Yes, one of the most effective strategies against campers is to take their focus away by attacking them. If they are in the lead and you are second, then your affect on their FPH usually puts you in the lead. Plus going after the camper puts you in a good position to eliminate others going after the camper. So you can keep a steady FPH which is a double advantage.
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