How to use zoom without getting kicked from server?

[xboxownzuall]

This is the commands im using for zoom in my autoexec i can use it in the server, but if i hit it multiple times hit button repeatedly, the server kicks me what other commands do i need to add so i can click it it as many times as i want in a row without being kicked?


alias +zoom "fov 82"
alias -zoom "fov 105"
bind mouse2 "+zoom"

[QwazyWabbit]

It's a known bug in q2admin-tsmod2. Zooming changes the clientinfo "fov" value string. Q2admin incorrectly counts the rate of infostring changes. I fixed this in my version 1.17.46 and later but it didn't make it into the spatulasnout repository for incorporation into the TS system. Changing it there will take rebuilding the q2admin for the server and dropping it into the proper places. The one binary is used by all servers hosted by the system so it will take down all servers at once to replace. It's something I haven't had the guts to do yet. I want to test the process before I commit all of tastyspleen to it.

You can test whether this bug is the true culprit by trying your zooms on a server that's using 1.17.46 or higher q2admin-tsmod2. You have to hit them much harder to get kicked.

[xboxownzuall]

No matter what ts-mod version i do it on, i get kicked from a game lol, r1ch's stuff actually broke quake 2 which it claims to have ''fixed'' like the lighting effects and other stuff, i wouldnt hosting games using his garbage, i remember being able to use zoom perfectly fine heat.net/mplayer.com/msn gaming zone/gamespy arcade/3d  days without getting ''kicked''.

[xboxownzuall]

I just tried a server hosted using 3.24 quake 2 and no issues being kicked from zooming in/out no matter how fast/many times i did it, i didnt get kicked, drop all the r1/r1ch quake 2 garbage plz lol.

[xboxownzuall]

Join this server and try zooming yourself you will see you dont get kicked server being hosted  Q2DOS 3.24.

The server is  HCI] Custom Coop - Vanilla, Xatrix, and Rogue. Votable maps!

52.240.58.168:27910


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[xboxownzuall]

I forgot to mention it doesnt matter if it's a DM server or COOP server also it doesnt matter what version of Ts mod you get kicked for zooming in/out, id be running 3.24 and nothing else like HCI guy.

[QwazyWabbit]

You must be spamming zooms pretty hard then because the threshold in the new version is 40 times per 60 second window. When you do a zoom cluster you must stop and wait for that window to expire before you do another cluster. It's hard-coded that way and it's not configurable. I suppose I could use cvars to allow admins to control them but this is ancient code and has been in place for 12 or 15 years already and the new version is actually more tolerant than the older 1.17.44 version.

You don't list the servers with Q2Admin that you tried so I don't have any actionable information here.

I don't know where r1q2 enters into this because the kick is issued from Q2Admin, the DLL that's used to support WallFly among other things on TS servers and independent servers that use WallFly and goto. The nature of the server engine is irrelvant.

Disparaging r1ch is not productive and he had nothing to do with the Q2Admin code section that is kicking you for spamming.

I have not tested q2dos and the server you listed doesn't use Q2Admin so, since Q2Admin is issuing the kick, it's obvious that a server that doesn't incorporate Q2Admin won't kick you.

It's unfortunate that your spamming style of play is not tolerated on the Tastyspleen servers. I guess you're either going to have to change your style or just not play on TS servers. I'm sure you will be missed.

QW

[QwazyWabbit]

I forgot to mention it doesnt matter if it's a DM server or COOP server also it doesnt matter what version of Ts mod you get kicked for zooming in/out, id be running 3.24 and nothing else like HCI guy.

It doesn't matter which version of q2admin-tsmod-2 is running because you are exceeding the very low threshold in the older 1.17.44 version and the much better 1.17.46 - 1.17.48 versions on non-Tastyspleen servers. It has nothing to do with the game mod or the engine core, it has everything to do with Q2admin.

[|iR|Focalor]

It's unfortunate that your spamming style of play is not tolerated on the Tastyspleen servers. I guess you're either going to have to change your style or just not play on TS servers. I'm sure you will be missed.

 

Yeah, I don't get why you need to hit a zoom bind that many times either.

alias +zoom "fov 82"
alias -zoom "fov 105"
bind mouse2 "+zoom"

Stock fov is 90, and many of us older players who have tinkered with configs a bit have learned that a greater than 90 degree fov can help to smooth out mouse aiming and movement. I think I use 110. Your "zoom out" is 105, so it seems like you've discovered that as well. But if you're using 82 for the zoom in, you're barely "zooming" at all. Perhaps you're used to these call of duty style shooters with the aim-down-the-sights thing and that's what you're attempting to recreate, but that's not really something you want to be doing in Quake2. Typically when people add a zoom bind like that to their config, they use the "mwheelup" and "mwheeldn" as the toggle, they zoom the fov smaller (60 or less maybe), and they usually include a sensitivity change to the aliases as well - which makes the bind good for taking longer range shots with a railgun.

It's also possible to create a custom crosshair which you can also switch to upon zooming in. I've even heard of people making crosshairs as large as their game resolution that blacks out everything except for a circle in the middle and a fancy cross that makes it look like you're looking though a scope.

I don't know that many people that use a zoom bind like that too often though. Sometimes it can just get in the way and slow you down. And there aren't many maps where you're gonna have that much distance between you and an opponent to make a zoom useful.

My advice... just stop zooming so much.

[xboxownzuall]

lol stop running Q2admin then if it's a problem lol, i mean who really cheats on almost a 30 year old game anyway? Plus you can still kick people without it.

Pretty useless even running it to begin with.

[xboxownzuall]

You dont need to hit zoom, but acouple times in a row and it will kick you, sometimes ill accidentally even hit it and get kicked.

it's dumb to have to wait seconds in between to use this feature just so you wont kicked, quake 2 was perfectly fine without Q2admin, it's about as useless as punkbuster.

[xboxownzuall]

It's unfortunate that your spamming style of play is not tolerated on the Tastyspleen servers. I guess you're either going to have to change your style or just not play on TS servers. I'm sure you will be missed.

 

Yeah, I don't get why you need to hit a zoom bind that many times either.

alias +zoom "fov 82"
alias -zoom "fov 105"
bind mouse2 "+zoom"

Stock fov is 90, and many of us older players who have tinkered with configs a bit have learned that a greater than 90 degree fov can help to smooth out mouse aiming and movement. I think I use 110. Your "zoom out" is 105, so it seems like you've discovered that as well. But if you're using 82 for the zoom in, you're barely "zooming" at all. Perhaps you're used to these call of duty style shooters with the aim-down-the-sights thing and that's what you're attempting to recreate, but that's not really something you want to be doing in Quake2. Typically when people add a zoom bind like that to their config, they use the "mwheelup" and "mwheeldn" as the toggle, they zoom the fov smaller (60 or less maybe), and they usually include a sensitivity change to the aliases as well - which makes the bind good for taking longer range shots with a railgun.

It's also possible to create a custom crosshair which you can also switch to upon zooming in. I've even heard of people making crosshairs as large as their game resolution that blacks out everything except for a circle in the middle and a fancy cross that makes it look like you're looking though a scope.

I don't know that many people that use a zoom bind like that too often though. Sometimes it can just get in the way and slow you down. And there aren't many maps where you're gonna have that much distance between you and an opponent to make a zoom useful.

My advice... just stop zooming so much.

Im using it more like duke nukem forever zoom and it does come in handy tbh, quake 3 has zoom bound out of the box basically it's like getting kicked from quake 3 servers for using it same kinda crap that would be lame as all hell lol just because you want to run some garbage anti cheat module that's out of date and as useless as punkbuster.

you think people havent learned to bypass its its features  Yeah right.

[|iR|Focalor]

i mean who really cheats on almost a 30 year old game anyway?

Assholes. You must be new here.