Author Topic: Pakscape may not be compatible with XP SP3 (Read 6147 times)

X'tyfe · « **on:** May 06, 2008, 06:59:50 PM »

heyas

i would like to ask anyone running XP SP3 to see if pakscape crashes for them or not
im unable to run it at this time. it seems to be crashing at startup in comctl32.dll which was updated by SP3

if this is true, something should be done if possible to fix this
its an essential quake2 related app

i dont have much programming knowledge, so im wondering if anyone who does could look into it

QwazyWabbit · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2008, 11:47:54 PM »

Which version of SP3? There were RC1, RC2, a general release, a general re-release after they found problems in SP3 on some systems.

I generally try to stay at least 2 to 3 months behind the power curve on updates unless there is a real reason to get it (like a security issue).

Locate the COMCTL32.DLL in windows/system32 and right click it to get properties. Report your version info for the DLL. The File Version in the top of the Version tab and the Product Version from the list boxes.

In spite of not knowing, I had a laptop here that I could afford to update and test. I ran pakscape in SP2 and it works OK with SP2's comctl32, version 5.82.2900.2982 6.0.2900.2982.

I then tried to update to SP3 using WU. Ho hum.
It forced a WGA download, validated the system and listed SP3 as available after 10 minutes of grinding on my hard drive.
I clicked on the Install button and it barfed, telling me I didn't accept the EULA... duh, what EULA?
It never asked. Is this the EULA that says they do anything they want while sit and take it?
I tried 3 more times with the same result.

I will reboot and try again but if it fails the update again it'll be a while before I can post what I find because SP3 won't be on my list of "nice to have". One of the rumors is that SP3 is supposed to make XP more "Vista-like". If this update problem is any indication, yep, it's more Vista-like alright.

If you really want to see if SP3 is the culprit, I would recommend going back to the pre-SP3 restore point and trying pakscape again. My examination of pakscape shows a VC 6.0 compiled executable with nothing special or tricky inside so I can't explain why it would fail. MS makes a big deal of backwards-compatibility testing so if the SP broke it I would be surprised... but then this update bug is surprising too.

Update: OK. I have tried Express and Custom updates. All fail to install SP3 for failed EULA acceptance. I am downloading the 316MB file directly but won't have time to install it for a while.

peewee_RotA · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2008, 03:00:05 AM »

try QPed http://www.zeliepa.com/dna/files/qped.exe, it's the pak ex i've relied on for quake 2 for years.

[BTF] Reflex · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2008, 05:01:04 AM »

I still use winpak, and old old version I had since dealing with Q1. Hasn't messed up a pak yet.

The Happy Friar · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2008, 07:18:27 AM »

I updated to SP3 last night (just like I thought: it's not just the past few years in one update, it's "new updates" too to force you to download).

just downloaded Pakscape & it runs fine. Opened up q2's base/pak0.pak no problem.

jägermonsta · « **Reply #5 on:** May 07, 2008, 07:34:18 AM »

How is SP3? I gotta know!!!!

X'tyfe · « **Reply #6 on:** May 07, 2008, 07:49:49 AM »

im using the RTM version. and doesnt make anything more vista like from what i can see

comctl32.dll is version 5.82.2900.5512. which should be right as 5512 is the final build number for SP3

not sure why im having issues. one person now (Friar) says it work
and those other apps dont support pk3 files or pk4 (to some extent anyways)

jägermonsta · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2008, 08:32:22 AM »

bah should come with dx10

X'tyfe · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2008, 09:41:39 AM »

Quote from: jägermonsta on May 07, 2008, 08:32:22 AM

bah should come with dx10

if that were possible, and they did

i would murder them

im wondering if this is specific to pakscape or not
or something got fucked up on my own system somehow

iv been searching the net all morning, but didnt find much
i did however download what looks to be an updated version of pakscape for use with quake4
but it also crashes the exact same way

The Happy Friar · « **Reply #9 on:** May 07, 2008, 06:49:03 PM »

i've had MS updates frag my system on several occasions. Time for a re-install.

X'tyfe · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07, 2008, 08:12:56 PM »

well, i can say that it is my own stupid fault after all
and not SP3

i was so sure that this was it, i even asked r1ch to help out lol
think he was probably annoyed at that

either way, dont hex edit system files :p

jägermonsta · « **Reply #11 on:** May 08, 2008, 07:02:02 AM »

Never had a problem with MS Updates. $:-\$

[BTF]DeathStalker · « **Reply #12 on:** May 08, 2008, 09:33:50 PM »

only time i ever had a problem with MS updates of any kind was when it installed IE7 on an older system (took 12 reboots for it to smooth out) and when it installed MS windows validation stuff and it caught my burned copy of XP Pro. LOL

X'tyfe · « **Reply #13 on:** May 08, 2008, 09:40:54 PM »

havent had issues at all, i guess its because i dont actually use MS update haha

just random shit happens for no reason

but, i did figure out why. it was a combination of SP3 and how i edited this file
still trying to get around it

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