NADML #1 (Spring 2006)

[Remedy]

its all kobras fault?

haha he wishes ;]

leagues are somewhat lame to begin with, since they require a 2+ month schedule and inevitably one or more of the clans dissolve in that point in time. I think most people would agree with me that a ladder system (ogl or UDML 1) is much better form of having 4v4 games, because it allows you time to rpactice and get your team together before you challenge for a spot. but with a community this small (with only like 5 active clans at one time) a ladder becomes pretty useless since the pecking order is quite clear without anyone even having to play any games, and so no team challenges for a higher rung so then no games get played.

I really never wanted to run a league with a schedule, just a ladder, but after we did UDML 1 and had numerous fiascos it was pretty clear to me that it was never going to happen so I tried the league thing with a schedule, and while 10x the games got played it just never seemed really competitive, not like old school ogl battles for top 3 spots did anyways, and if I can't have that then whats the point.

waff and I were talking in a pm 3 days ago about a league that would let everyone sign up, and then the computer would randomly sort the 40 or 50 signups into 6 man teams and then from there a round robin would go into effect. We both agreed that if we did it this way that all of the games would be interesting to see, unlike virtually **ANY** of the league games that have happened in the past couple of years, simply because it would require 6 guys to put aside their lame egos and work together, and winning in a league like this would actually say something about you and your team.

waff thinks this would work, but I don't, I think that the crybabies would quit once they saw that they didn't get paired with good players or at least their friends, I think the good players would quit once they saw that they didn't get paired with other good players and the stackers (my favorite group of people) wouldn't even sign up at all, because if they didnt just get to rape every game, then what would be the point right? lol - maybe someday we can give this a try

sry for the long post ;D

[Ghost9]

I like the league system.  NDML and EUROQ2L are both very successul tdm leagues.  I think players want to team with their friends.

The biggest problem with leagues is the stacking.  Its hard to keep it competitive when all the best players decide they should be in one clan.  Fortunately it looks like there should be several strong teams in this season's NADML.  Now if element will just address this scheduling issue....

[Remedy]

Now if element will just address this scheduling issue....

 

[[BTF]adam]

I still think it should be vs all the teams, and not two groups, makes it more fun and stuff, and thats a good idea sean.. id join

[Remedy]

and thats a good idea sean..

all the credit goes to waff - he's the brains of the operation xD

id join :P

yeah so would I bro, I think we would get an interesting turnout if we did something like that, lots of 1v1 or ffa players that remain clan/teamless would be lured into the random league, it's just I wonder how much of the regular clan base would be in favor of doing something like that

also someone would have to write the radomization script to make the teams, I imagine if it was a tastyspleen thing I could collaborate with fanny (if he'd be willing ;]) on some php or maybe even cgi to do this, we worked together before to get the udml results script going again :P

anyways waff seemed serious so maybe in april or may we could run a poll on the interest

[haunted]

the admins are already aware that several people do want 1 group instead of 2. I've discussed this w/ element and we still haven't reached a decision, being that the season has already started. However, it is possible and we're looking for more input. go on #nadml and talk msg one of the admins with your opinions if you haven't already done so, thanks

[Remedy]

the admins are already aware that several people do want 1 group instead of 2. I've discussed this w/ element and we still haven't reached a decision, being that the season has already started. However, it is possible and we're looking for more input. go on #nadml and talk msg one of the admins with your opinions if you haven't already done so, thanks

nice work

[[BTF]adam]

fanny is a girl.

[myamagical]

fanny is a girl.

lol

[10zx]

its all kobras fault?

fact.

[10zx]

i'll be honest, this is the first time I've read this thread in a while.. sorry for not reading it eariler, but I've been quite pre-occupied with working out the bugs I caused in the NADML site and actively playing in euroq2l matches and scrims.  However I have already made the changes, now I just have to schedule our 1st match vs [vA], which I'd like to do before the weekend.