D-Day and all Vets

[Krlll Mule]

I have been a student of history since childhood, thanks to my father. He served in the Navy during the cold war and the scariest thing he went through was the "Cuban Missile Crisis", but he always had three or four books beside his recliner and he would share them with me and explain some of the horrible things that I saw in photos and read in text about all our wars. When I think of the men who died and were WILLING to die I am very humbled. If you know a surviving veteran of any war or "police action", I dare you to just say "thank you" to them and see what happens. In my experience 9 of 10 say "nobody has ever said that to me". Quite sad.

[Golgo13]

i respect all the people that fought the nazi's in ww2. or who have fought for the right reasons. to defend ones people against all forms of tyranny. i have disgust for anyone who fights for the wrong reasons. (money, power) etc. However many people were duped into a war. this man has redeemed himself. However there are very few that have come to this realization.

http://consortiumnews.com/2013/07/19/brandon-toys-act-of-conscience/

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[|iR|Focalor]

Yeah, I recently saw a documentary about all of the private defense contractor contracts that were paid for with taxpayer money. No one outside of the crooked and well-connected circle of friends even had a chance to bid for the contracts and the price tag on them was outrageously inflated, assuring that they would indeed receive their ridiculous asking price. They paid these private contractor operators about 5 and 6 times what the US military was paying it's own soldiers for a salary. The fact that they get paid more than enlisted military personnel is not so bad, but when it's 5 or 6 times more than the Army pays, that's pretty fucking ridiculous. Soldiers were intentionally getting kicked out of the military in order to go to work for these contractors to receive the better pay.

They bought shitloads equipment. Office furniture and supplies, trucks, expensive SUV's, computers, etc. A lot of the shit they never used and just junked. When an expensive truck would have a small problem that could be repaired, instead of repairing the truck and continuing to use it, they'd just junk it and buy a brand new one.

On one occasion they absent-mindedly sent an unarmored convoy of military style fuel trucks driven by civilian contracted drivers through an area where they had reasonable intelligence indicating that an ambush was likely and they didn't provide the convoy with an armed escort. The convoy was in fact ambushed and several of the drivers were killed in a hail of automatic gunfire. And no one ever lost their job over the incident or was charged with anything.

Basically, these contractors were spending insanely unreasonable amounts of money and stealing millions and millions of taxpayer dollars, all of it seemingly completely sanctioned by the US government. So if people wanna claim it was a war about oil, maybe they should consider the fact certain people were getting a helluva lot richer off things OTHER than oil after the fall of Saddam.

Jesus Christ on a cracker. Nixon was impeached and disgraced for FAR less.

This is precisely why I decided not to join the military several years ago after giving it serious consideration. I was not willing to risk death in some far away place for a President whose motives and actions weren't clearly based on real evidence that the occupied territory was an imminent threat to national and/or international security.

The ones that DO serve... I feel for them. They're patriots who love their country and serve bravely, and I'm proud of them for it and thankful for their service. But I still think they're pretty crazy to make themselves pawns in a game of life and death where it seems like the mere pursuit of money is the reason for the game's existence. Not THIS white boy.

[Golgo13]

Yeah, I recently saw a documentary about all of the private defense contractor contracts that were paid for with taxpayer money. No one outside of the crooked and well-connected circle of friends even had a chance to bid for the contracts and the price tag on them was outrageously inflated, assuring that they would indeed receive their ridiculous asking price. They paid these private contractor operators about 5 and 6 times what the US military was paying it's own soldiers for a salary. The fact that they get paid more than enlisted military personnel is not so bad, but when it's 5 or 6 times more than the Army pays, that's pretty fucking ridiculous. Soldiers were intentionally getting kicked out of the military in order to go to work for these contractors to receive the better pay.

They bought shitloads equipment. Office furniture and supplies, trucks, expensive SUV's, computers, etc. A lot of the shit they never used and just junked. When an expensive truck would have a small problem that could be repaired, instead of repairing the truck and continuing to use it, they'd just junk it and buy a brand new one.

On one occasion they absent-mindedly sent an unarmored convoy of military style fuel trucks driven by civilian contracted drivers through an area where they had reasonable intelligence indicating that an ambush was likely and they didn't provide the convoy with an armed escort. The convoy was in fact ambushed and several of the drivers were killed in a hail of automatic gunfire. And no one ever lost their job over the incident or was charged with anything.

Basically, these contractors were spending insanely unreasonable amounts of money and stealing millions and millions of taxpayer dollars, all of it seemingly completely sanctioned by the US government. So if people wanna claim it was a war about oil, maybe they should consider the fact certain people were getting a helluva lot richer off things OTHER than oil after the fall of Saddam.

This is precisely why I decided not to join the military several years ago after giving it serious consideration. I was not willing to risk death in some far away place for a President whose motives and actions weren't clearly based on real evidence that the occupied territory was an imminent threat to national and/or international security.

The ones that DO serve... I feel for them. They're patriots who love their country and serve bravely, and I'm proud of them for it and thankful for their service. But I still think they're pretty crazy to make themselves pawns in a game of life and death where it seems like the mere pursuit of money is the reason for the game's existence. Not THIS white boy.

Yes. i believe the documentary involved halliburton. they even intentionally gave the soldiers unclean drinking and bathing water. They are also exposed to depleted uranium. they are treated as nothing but pawns to the powers that shouldn't be.

i was brainwashed long ago and thought about joining. However i wasn't fond of the possibility of harming civilians (which would inevitably result) also wasn't very adaptable to adverse weather conditions. so i decided to research and find out how i can help another way instead. however i then learned the truth.


Well it's all a matter of intention. If someone joins out of patriotism, that's all well and good. most soldiers years ago were led to believe falsehoods. can't really blame them. in the past few years however, it's become apparent to anyone paying attention, that joining the military is a joke. The military industrial complex preys on the young and ignorant to fight their wars. Combined with the mass media brainwashing epidemic that has been running rampant for decades, it is not surprising people can't get a hold on the true nature of this.

However, that is no longer and excuse. If people are still joining out of desperation and still believe they are doing good and willfully not paying attention. then they are only filling their wallets.  Those people don't represent america. regardless of age. Ignorance is no longer an excuse in the age of information. what is even worse are the people who sign onto this criminality and enjoy it. (blackwater)scum of the earth really.

[Th0m@s29]

Coool stori BRAH!!!