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Quake / Re: Is it possible to intentionally lag your client?

« on: April 12, 2018, 09:16:33 PM »

Short answer, no. You probably just haven't played in awhile and you're having trouble hitting those laggy SOB's.

Perhaps. I'm only seeing the warping on specific players though. One guy named [cc]crisco was doing it heavily, and then the Whipl@sh guy. I was asking crisco about it, and he said he was playing via Wi-Fi; I'm not sure if that could be the cause (I always play hard-wired into my router/modem). Probably just lag on their end. crisco did say he was experiencing some lag on his end as well.

I did check netgraph and I have only seen two individual lines of red/packet loss in the few times that I displayed it. I think those occurred around the time the map changed, so that may be the cause of that. Otherwise, things are running very smoothly for me (now I have no excuses if anybody comes and hands me my arse )

Hello! Just found out about this forum and this thread about me, so I thought I should respond (sidenote, I can't believe I've been a member since 2007!). I want to assure you I was using the standard q2pro client and wasn't cheating and have no idea how that warping was caused. I have been rather disappointed with the q2pro client, as I think it may have caused the issues based on other weird behavior I've had, explained below. Also, I did play on Wi-Fi just like crisco, and on a laptop that has just Intel integrated graphics. So possibly a Wi-Fi or poor hardware issue. I did see crisco warping around as well at times and also talked to him about it. I think he said he was using an old macbook? So maybe it's an issue when there is Wi-Fi and old/poor hardware?

It's also interesting because I don't think I was warping at all until the day after I first noticed crisco doing it... I remember being annoyed with it happening to him, and then the next day playing when you (Punk) were annoyed with me saying you saw it happen to me. Perhaps something with the server changed in how it reads packets from players? I used rate of 3000 and cl_maxfps of 250. Those are the two things I can think of that affect how my client communicates with the server.

Since that day you noticed it, it's happened occasionally to me, and I have noticed it affecting my play. Some times the only affect it has on my play is causing my screen to be a little choppy, other times the commands that I send to move/shoot to be delayed like standard lag.

Back to being disappointed with q2pro. I have noticed that for the first match or two that I play right after starting up q2pro, I had extremely high FPS with very fluid gameplay, almost like I was playing on a local game and not online. But as I continued to play, my game gets sluggish and that fluidity disappears. It got to the point where I was quitting my q2 client after each match and starting it over again, rejoining the server, to get back to that high FPS.

I also noticed issues where my mouse pointer started to show up on top of the q2 client and q2 would get minimized at random times.

Also, if I ever used the Windows button to bring up the start menu in order to check my desktop (to read IM's or emails), when I went back to q2 in full screen, the client would be much more sluggish than prior to pressing that Windows button.

I'm guessing the q2pro client has one or more memory leaks that build up over time, and that on poor hardware like mine, the affect is noticeable soon after playing. It probably also has problems with being minimized and then going back to full screen.

Anyway, just some thoughts I had on why those issues happened to me. I'm sorry it caused frustration while you were playing. I know how hard it was to play against crisco.. I'm glad you brought it up here so I could respond. Hopefully it doesn't happen to any more people.

I'm likely done playing now, and just came on here tonight to look over the site one last time before letting go of q2... I started playing in 1997 and stopped during college around 2004, and have missed it at times over the years. It was a lot of fun to play with you guys the last few months, reminiscing over the years in clans, watching old demos I had recorded, and trying to get good again at the jumps in the MH room on q2dm1 But it's time to go back to adulting and finish up here. I might be on the forum some, but I've deleted the game.

Cheers!
Whip