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Re: The Fight Thread
« Reply #300 on: February 07, 2018, 02:34:33 AM »
Didn't get to watch the UFC Fight Night 125 Machida vs Anders this weekend, so I piratebay'd it and watched it this morning.

First of all, the event was in Brazil...

Dunno if anyone else saw this entire card, but I'm getting really tired of these judges in Brazil in particular always turning in results that reflect who they want to win the fight rather than who actually won the fight based on the usual scoring standards. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if you're not a Brazillian fighting in Brazil, you'd better finish or undeniably, totally, and completely dominate your opponent. That's the only way you win. If it's split decision, it always goes in favor of the Brazillian.

That's pretty much the story of EVERY fight on the entire card, from the early prelims, to the prelims, to the main card, to the main event. I was pretty interested in seeing Lyoto Machida fight again. But prior to that fight, I had witnessed an ongoing series of bullshit biased decisions. So the by the time Machida and Anders got after it, I was annoyed. I watched the first round for maybe 30 seconds. Machida standing in his karate pose, and Anders being too scared to just bulldoze into him and fuck his shit up. They just stood there dancing around each other, too scared to do anything. Finally Anders slipped and fell on his ass, and Machida jumped on top and landed in his guard. I hadn't even seen one punch land or get blocked at that point...  but I still said, "Fuck this. I know who's gonna win - It's gonna be Machida by split decision, guaranteed." So I FFW'd to the end, and sure enough, I was right.
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Since I didn't see the whole fight, you could say, "Well maybe Machida won legit." But I did watch the "move of the fight" recaps, and Machida was the one bleeding all over the place while Anders looked untouched. That doesn't always tell the whole store, but it USUALLY tells most of the story. Knowwhatimean?

How come people aren't taking to social media in droves to complain about this shit that happens EVERY FUCKING TIME the UFC steps foot outside of Nevada?
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Re: The Fight Thread
« Reply #301 on: February 07, 2018, 06:34:07 PM »
They do complain that I see, and the brazillian fan base equally retaliates haha. The refs are super biased in brazil. I didn't watch the fight, but in Machida's case being super elusive, evasive, boring, stupid, etc. HE out of all brazillians could win a silly points battle in a lame fight even if looking like got beat up. But, I didn't watch it so I don't know. He can at least sell it to the judges the best. He's getting older though now so he's gotta be getting worse at doing that routine.
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Re: The Fight Thread
« Reply #302 on: February 08, 2018, 02:34:42 AM »
It wasn't entirely the refs being biased, that was ALL on the judges. Herb Dean and Mario Yamasaki were there, along with that beefy brit ref who's a regular too, I can't remember his name though. But they also had some non-regulars reffing too. If the refs during that card did anything wrong it was not being strict enough about the fence grabbing, which was happening a TON all night long with no referee correction from any of the non-regulars. (Herb, Mario, and the british guy handled it as usual though) Brazil has actually adopted the new revamped rules, which many places in the US outside of Vegas have NOT adopted yet. I was under the impression that part of the new rules was to make the refs start being MUCH stricter on fence grabbing and jabbing with outstretched fingers. And to the regular refs credits, that Brit guy actually did his job and STOPPED the fight to stand the fighters up and chew one of them a new asshole for not listening to him when he told him to stop hitting him in the back of the head. :thumbsup: If the brazillian ref was in there and even bothered telling them to stop grabbing the fence (75% of the time, they didn't even say anything), then the guilty fighter would just flagrantly ignore them and keep doing it with no consequences.

I'm not being Nationalist either. I don't care where a fighters from. I just want a fight where the fighters follow the rules of the game, and the refs ENFORCE the rules when they don't.

Machida's elusiveness isn't going to win him a fight anymore,... unless he fights in Brazil where they revere him as much as the Gracie clan. Back when fighters could get away with doping by doing whatever it was they were doing with IV drips or whatever, he had the energy and stamina to run away from someone. In my opinion, doping was the only way Jon Jones had the edge to beat DC. Because when he first came back and fought Ovince St Preux, he pissed clean for every test, and by the 2nd round, he looked like he was trudging through knee-deep river mud. A guy that tall and lanky throws with incredible power in round 1, but they always get tired faster throwing strikes and slow to a crawl by the start of the 3rd. You didn't see him get tired against DC like he did with OSP... probably because the dope increases oxygen capacity in the blood.

So maybe that is kinda why Machida doesn't look as deadly vs his opponents as we remember he used to be. Or maybe he's just getting old. Honestly, I think at least a portion of it is the fact that everyone else in the UFC has improved so much in the last 6 or 7 years that they make Machida look less impressive by comparison. These guys in the #20 to #10 slots tend to look like better fighters than the former champs from 7 years ago.
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Re: The Fight Thread
« Reply #303 on: February 08, 2018, 03:44:40 AM »
Gotta leave for work so I can't reply much, but refs was a typo. I meant judges.
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Re: The Fight Thread
« Reply #304 on: February 12, 2018, 08:55:23 AM »
They do complain that I see, and the brazillian fan base equally retaliates haha. The refs are super biased in brazil. I didn't watch the fight, but in Machida's case being super elusive, evasive, boring, stupid, etc. HE out of all brazillians could win a silly points battle in a lame fight even if looking like got beat up. But, I didn't watch it so I don't know. He can at least sell it to the judges the best. He's getting older though now so he's gotta be getting worse at doing that routine.

Worse, and been KO'd, or choked dead how many times now. I'm still a fan but the man needs to fuckin retire.  :raincloud:
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Re: The Fight Thread
« Reply #305 on: February 24, 2018, 07:46:41 PM »
Just got done watching UFC on Fox - Emmett vs Stephens.

I'm very surprised at how Dan Mirgliota didn't say jack shit to Stephens about those illegal elbows to the back of the head as well as that HUGELY ILLEGAL knee to the top of the head of a CLEARLY DOWNED OPPONENT in a state where the new rules don't apply, and it doesn't matter if they DID apply because he still had BOTH HANDS on the mat and it was STILL COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.

WHAT THE FUCK! People have money on this shit. :ohlord: Not me luckily. But what the fuck do small time books do when people don't wanna pay for a loss they say was illegal? God damn bullshit. UFC needs to get their fucking shit together.
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Re: The Fight Thread
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