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« on: June 14, 2008, 11:06:49 AM »
Here is a demo from yesterday on Tourney4.

Watch it with a wallhack, and you will notice the player make many mistakes.  He fires at targets that are behind a wall, he fires at targets who walk up to a doorway and stop before they enter it, and he tracks targets down from across the map even when they aren't moving/making sounds.

The user was shown in aclist as not using anticheat and/or a verified client.
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Re: Wallhacks!
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2008, 11:45:27 AM »
Here is a demo from yesterday on Tourney4.

Watch it with a wallhack, and you will notice the player make many mistakes.  He fires at targets that are behind a wall, he fires at targets who walk up to a doorway and stop before they enter it, and he tracks targets down from across the map even when they aren't moving/making sounds.

The user was shown in aclist as not using anticheat and/or a verified client.

Dude, that sounds more like
he is using an aimbot.

Wallhackers wouldnt shoot on
targets that r behind a wall.

 :P
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Re: Wallhacks!
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 12:05:05 PM »
According to what is posted at MK, I would ask if it's you using a second client to record a demo of yourself.

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2008, 01:16:27 PM »
I've seen him ping around 55 sometimes and around 25 other times. I've seen him using AC and r1q2 before. I've also seen him on vanilla and dm in the mornings NOT using it. He's had an amazing ability to snipe me from all over the place on DM8 with a railgun before I even know where he's at. Coincidentally, he was not listed as using AC or r1q2 at those times. It's not too easy to tell from this demo exactly what is going on, but it appears as though you COULD be correct. A lot of people have suspected it for a long time and had no proof. Then again, maybe the reason he's not using AC is because his loud sounds pak would be flagged by AC, at least that's an excuse I would anticipate. Makes no sense to me why a top player player such as him would not WANT to use r1q2. I doubt anyone gives a shit. I don't really give a shit anymore. I've suspected it for a while, and I simply leave whenever he shows up. If I'm wrong for "suspecting" it, I apologize. But let's be realistic, if he were using AC and r1q2 EVERY time, I wouldn't have any reason to doubt that he was 100% legit, would I?

Dude, that sounds more like
he is using an aimbot.

Wallhackers wouldnt shoot on
targets that r behind a wall.

 :P

Wallhackers would fire at the edge of a box, wall, or doorway anticipating that the person would choose to move into view at that time. But then again, people NOT wallhacking do the same thing. If you watch the demo with a wallhack loaded, there is one shot in particular that I found to be rather fishy. B100D is aproaching the megaroom from the ssg on the inner arena stairs. RYU jumps from the top of the box where the yellow armor is towards the megahealth. B100D takes the shot at the high side of the door. He misses him, but it still looks very fishy. Most people would fire at the middle or lower part of the doorway hoping to catch him with a spam shot as he peeks out. Seems like he knew he was going to be travelling through the air in that direction since the shot was such a near miss.
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Re: Wallhacks!
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2008, 02:06:01 PM »
According to what is posted at MK, I would ask if it's you using a second client to record a demo of yourself.

http://monsterkill.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3897

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That is easy to prove wrong.  The IP addresses differ.  And so do the pings.  Also, I played against the guy...that would be hard to do if they were both me.
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Re: Wallhacks!
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 04:08:38 PM »
Here is a demo from yesterday on Tourney4.

Watch it with a wallhack, and you will notice the player make many mistakes.  He fires at targets that are behind a wall, he fires at targets who walk up to a doorway and stop before they enter it, and he tracks targets down from across the map even when they aren't moving/making sounds.

I just watched the demo, but did not find it especially convincing.

For example, there were numerous times when B1OOD reacted slowly when the opponent rounded a corner, whereas watching with a wallhack it would have been possible to react more quickly.

Yes - of course, he could be reacting slowly on purpose in an attempt to disguise wallhacking.  But anyway, I didn't get much of a wallhacking feel from watching.


I've seen him using AC and r1q2 before. I've also seen him on vanilla and dm in the mornings NOT using it. He's had an amazing ability to snipe me from all over the place on DM8 with a railgun before I even know where he's at. Coincidentally, he was not listed as using AC or r1q2 at those times.

It does seem strange someone would switch clients in that way.


Anyway, I am not against the idea of forcing AC on his subnet...  Since he already plays with AC sometimes, why not all the time? ;)


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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2008, 05:52:05 PM »
I have watched a lot of demos and a lot of players of all skill levels -especially the highest skill level -- and i didn't see anything except pro prediction and knowledge of where and what the other player is doing and going to do. 

Can you even imagine the depth of experience he has on q2dm1 -- how many times he has duelled on that map -- if anything i think later in the demo there are several times he leaves himself at a disadvantage if he knew where Ryu was by a wallhack.

I have spectated and played b100d and made him work for it and i have been raped by him -- and never did i ever suspect a wallhack. 

I would guess that he plays at two different locations ( as many players probably do--work and home or laptop etc) different setups and pings.

A couple days ago i think he said his motherboard fried and was setting up a new machine.




I will probably regret saying this next thing but it has always bothered me-- wanted to see what you bot snifers think of this http://tastyspleen.net/quake/forums/index.php?topic=2305.msg32270#msg32270

It is really tacky to bring up old games but this is the most suspicious demo I have ever seen --- it isnt so much him making shots but knowing when to charge, knowing where he can go safely ..

and i know it includes b100d --purely coincidental-- back then i had no respect for him --lol

peace and no offense meant to any involved -- just curiosity and sometimes even the smallest injustice needs someone to stand up if they believe it is the right thing
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« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2009, 04:25:46 PM »
necropost!

If you wanna see a suspicious wallhack demo, try this one on for size!
Pretty sure this is razor's lil butt buddy who posted the fake jump demos too.



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Re: Wallhacks!
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2009, 10:56:21 AM »
Well it is no doubt he is not legit.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 01:07:22 PM »
the guy above "abuse_" has been showing up recently on TS again, this time without his dialup and "q2ace" w/ wallhack.

now he's sporting what looks to be q2pro/apr with some spiffy weapon model spikes


Yet another razor affiliated asswipe.. Where's the rope?


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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 01:59:56 PM »
the guy above "abuse_" has been showing up recently on TS again, this time without his dialup and "q2ace" w/ wallhack.

now he's sporting what looks to be q2pro/apr with some spiffy weapon model spikes


Yet another razor affiliated asswipe.. Where's the rope?

Thanks,

Super busy today... I've thrown a quick forced-AC on his IP as a temporary measure.  (I've no doubt his IP will change soon, it appears to be dynamic.)


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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 03:39:41 PM »
Where's the rope?

I say we hang him then we kill him.

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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 04:11:22 PM »


I see you newbie.

Make sure you get your payment for the ac-workaround spikes because you're gonna have an unsatisfied customer quite soon.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 04:21:23 PM »
He's making these fuckin' things? Like... he thinks he's smart enough to successfully confound R1CH to where he won't immediately spot it? Like... people are PAYING CASH for his bullshit newbie hacks?

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