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« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2008, 07:32:30 AM »
Actually Jaeger, I like how you broke that down.
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Re: What crosses the line ??
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2008, 08:55:32 AM »
Quote from: [EoM] <((ViBeS))> on January 01, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: [EoM] <((ViBeS))> on January 01, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
Ya don't mess with kids !

Well here I can certainly agree, when it comes to doing real harm to kids.  For instance, all the adults in that Jesus Camp movie should be locked up.

Right?

...Not to get tooo far off-topic..... :)

OK...

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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2008, 09:00:16 AM »
kills me how some of you are attempting to correlate smoking weed and child molesting.

Weed is a peaceful substance. Ever hear of someone getting high and beating his wife? no, but you do about basically every other mind-altering substance out there. 800,000 ppl are arrested every year in America due to marijuana, 90% of those being possession. The reason for this is the misconception made by many, that smoking weed can be correlated w/ deviance, especially violent crimes.

Oh and weed isn't becoming socially acceptable, it IS. Go fly to europe, when I was 17 in london there were ppl smoking joints on public benches and in bars everywhere. Every1 would always pass them around to, even 2 random tourists like myself. Only in America can 80,000 (currently) people be taking up jail cell space for child molesters due to marijuana.
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« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2008, 09:06:48 AM »
"Have a seat, would you like a glass of lemonade? My name is a Chris Hansen..."
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« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2008, 01:24:36 AM »
kills me how some of you are attempting to correlate smoking weed and child molesting.

Weed is a peaceful substance. Ever hear of someone getting high and beating his wife? no, but you do about basically every other mind-altering substance out there. 800,000 ppl are arrested every year in America due to marijuana, 90% of those being possession. The reason for this is the misconception made by many, that smoking weed can be correlated w/ deviance, especially violent crimes.

Oh and weed isn't becoming socially acceptable, it IS. Go fly to europe, when I was 17 in london there were ppl smoking joints on public benches and in bars everywhere. Every1 would always pass them around to, even 2 random tourists like myself. Only in America can 80,000 (currently) people be taking up jail cell space for child molesters due to marijuana.

Some of you? I assume you mean "some of ME". If you read my post, I never said that possession of marijuana is an offense as egregious as molesting a child. I never said that marijuana has a tendency to make people violent. I've smoked plenty of it myself in the past, I know full-well how it affects someone. You're only pulling the wool over your own eyes if you're attempting to make all drug users look like fine upstanding model citizens. I've known plenty of pot dealers who carried handguns illegally. I've known plenty of pot smokers who have extensive criminal records, and most of the offenses were not drug related. The point I was making is that both things (possession of drugs OR child molestation) are absolutely positively against the law. Don't feed me the line about "weed isn't becoming socially acceptable, it IS." Sure, in other places. But here in America, it's illegal. If it were so socially acceptable, why would they give pre-employment drug screens? Why would insurance companies require drug screens in order to cover the cost of medical bills created by on-the-job accidents? Why do you have to hide your hash pipe from other drivers when you're riding down the road smoking a bowl? If it were indeed completely socially acceptable in America, seems to me you wouldn't have to worry about your neighbors catching a whiff off the hydro growing in your basement.

If you think I'm personally of the opinion that it should remain an illegal substance, you're wrong. Like I said, I've probably smoked more weed the last two years I did it, than you ever will in your entire life. From my own experience, it impairs a person less than alcohol and is just as medically harmful for your body as cigarette smoking, maybe a little moreso. I used to smoke it all day long every day for several years. I coughed up more gunk and had lung pains far worse during that period than when I smoked nonfilter cigarettes like a chimney. After a while, even the strongest hydro I could find wouldn't get me high for longer than 15 minutes, which is why I smoked constantly. Seeing as how there are no signs of physical addiction or immediate health risk, I would say it should probably be legalized. After all, cigarettes ARE addictive and pose no "immediate" health risk and they are legal products. Alcohol has the potential to be addictive and poses no "immediate" health risk, and it's legal. Doesn't mean I'm going to partake of them though. As I said, and it is 100% fact, they manipulate and dull the senses and influence people to do things they might not otherwise do. They make you stupid and unproductive. If someone can tell me with a straight face that a person who is fucked up on weed is any smarter at that moment than they might otherwise be, I'd be happy to roll my eyes at them. There were several points I made in that particular post that I don't think I spelled out clear enough, obviously. My point is, I don't want to hear about people getting fucked up and using drugs, I hate that shit. Since these are liberally moderated forums, I have the right to say that here. Just as anyone else has the right to talk about getting fucked up and smoking white widow with a dusting of extra keefe on top out of an original tommy chong 3 footer glass bong loaded with ice cubes. And if none of us like the fact that we're all allowed to speak our minds, we have the option of leaving, no one is holding a gun to anyone's head (other than in the game) and forcing them to interact and play here. Complaining about someone else being able to speak however they wish seems like... hrmmm, irony defined, maybe?
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« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2008, 04:44:38 AM »
FYI driving a car is also a health risk. So is getting out of bed for the day... or even staying in bed. Everything you do can effect your health in some way.

Not everyone gets as paranoid on weed as you seem to. I smoked in broad daylight while in public... I never cared? I also never have been caught with it. Sounds like you can't handle being high, that's not everyones problem. Besides we're talking about raping children and killing minorities, not drugs.
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« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2008, 06:07:07 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2008, 06:29:46 AM »
Hmmm... for a person who claimed to smoke such a substantial amount of pot in the last two years your quite fond of a limited amount of memories. Not that I expect you list everything you've done but if you smoked such ridicules amounts as haunted and I have then those days pretty much all roll into one. I couldn't begin to list the movies and concerts I was high for... not to make this a pissing contest but I wouldn't go around making the bold statements you are. Haunted was just pointing out that not every person smokes weed and robs a bank, that's all.
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« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2008, 03:52:41 PM »
How many of you have played when Crusty was online.
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« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2008, 05:59:25 PM »

P.S. - Dukie you really need to get that kiddy porn off you computer
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« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2008, 06:50:12 PM »
Quote from: &#123;TNP}Dukie on January 03, 2008, 05:59:25 PM
Quote from: {TNP}Dukie on January 03, 2008, 05:59:25 PM

P.S. - Dukie you really need to get that kiddy porn off you computer   :ohlord:

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You send me the stuff and then tell me to erase it??

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« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2008, 08:15:51 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2008, 12:37:11 AM »
Hello, I am the one whom this thread is about. I play online the spleen servers often But not as often as I used to (I have found a new game Yay!
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« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2008, 01:23:24 AM »
Because my account is under this name. Dickmitizer is a funny name used from an old ra2 player who passed away in 2001. I use many names which really isnt the point. Now maybe you can try ansering the question at hand. BTW no one has ever complained about any of the names I use. But a name that means sex with kids is a little much. Since you seem to avoid the question you must be for it. sick.

lol so you respect people who have passed away by using there alias and you also enjoy pretending to be in clans? nice...
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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2008, 02:32:07 AM »
Hello, I am the one whom this thread is about.

Thanks for posting.  Welcome to the forums.


I play online the spleen servers often But not as often as I used to (I have found a new game Yay!  ^_^) But any way. The most obvious point to make so far in all I have read is that I am in fact a girl and 16 (But that changes in a few days woo!)

Happy birthday.  Funny, I was planning to ask you whether you had a birthday coming up.  Because I noticed in the server logs you'd been saying you were 16 for about a year now.


I clearly have standards on the issue and I know there is a difference between harm and love.
https://www.bkgirls.net/introduction.html

However I know there are alot of people out there who cant see any differenec between any name or title. And those are the people who will ignore my clarification on the difference between harm/hate and love. And they will willfully and blindly continue to persecute me and every other person whos race or religion or sexuality conflicts with thier own or thier ignorantly held beleifs.

It may bear pointing out, however, that it is also possible to know the difference between harm and love, and indeed still disagree about the appropriateness of sexual relations between adults and children.

For example: "Opponents also argue that pre-pubescent children in particular are not capable of giving consent and that the power imbalance between adults and children makes any sexual relationship exploitative." (link)

My point is simply that it's quite possible to have no problem whatsoever with someone's gay or lesbian sexual orientation, yet still have very specific reasons to believe sexual relations with adults are not in the best interest of children.

Thus, even though you've explained that from your point of view you know the difference between hate and love and would never do harm to a child, there is a contrasting viewpoint that children can be too young to give consent, and thus sexual relations with a child may still be causing harm regardless of your motives.

As such, I would caution against dismissing everyone who may disagree with you as simply ignorant or hateful.

Does that make sense?


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