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« Reply #1635 on: November 03, 2014, 02:02:44 AM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/recruiting-for-isis-60-minutes/  <- Sharia morality squads patrolling the streets of Britain, etc.


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« Reply #1636 on: November 03, 2014, 02:03:39 AM »
Caspian Report - Origins of ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJPOtPl-0NI

^Great analysis from this geopolitical YouTube channel.
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« Reply #1637 on: November 03, 2014, 12:12:02 PM »
Caspian Report - Origins of ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJPOtPl-0NI

Interesting video, thanks. The timeline of events meshes well with what was reported by the journalist (linked in an earlier post in this thread) who was a captive of Al Nusra for two years.

A couple points in particular caught my attention: Al Qaeda not having severed ties with ISIS on the grounds of ISIS being "too extreme" (as was widely reported) but rather as part of a political power struggle; and some perspective on why the Iraqi soldiers didn't fight back when ISIS rolled in.

I recall a documentary on Iraq from 2006 or so which similarly highlighted the terrible strategic move that the U.S. termed de-Baathification, and how one of our original commanders there had tried to oppose the policy and is on record trying to warn Washington about the instability that could result--but who was quickly replaced by yes-men and bureaucrats like L. Paul Bremer who would implement the policy as planned.

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« Reply #1638 on: November 05, 2014, 06:54:51 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA9-qZE7B-M
^Interesting documentary. It attempts to answer the question of where the billions of dollars of Iraq's reconstruction aid disappeared to.

I recall a documentary on Iraq from 2006 or so which similarly highlighted the terrible strategic move that the U.S. termed de-Baathification, and how one of our original commanders there had tried to oppose the policy and is on record trying to warn Washington about the instability that could result--but who was quickly replaced by yes-men and bureaucrats like L. Paul Bremer who would implement the policy as planned.

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I never heard of this before so this is pretty enlightening!  :frustration:

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« Reply #1639 on: November 06, 2014, 12:05:22 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA9-qZE7B-M
^Interesting documentary. It attempts to answer the question of where the billions of dollars of Iraq's reconstruction aid disappeared to.

Ah yes, I recall having watched that awhile back. Amazing, forklifts depositing palettes of cash onto the tarmac... and most vanishing into parts unknown in the desert.


I never heard of this before so this is pretty enlightening!  :frustration:

I believe this was the one (from 2007.)

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ykpf5nDIs9M/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ykpf5nDIs9M"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ykpf5nDIs9M" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ykpf5nDIs9M</a>

The mention of De-baathification begins around 40 minutes in, and L. Paul Bremer enters the picture a couple minutes before that. But prior to that, a number of mistakes are also chronicled leading up to that point, giving the general impression that Rumsfeld had a tendency to ignore advice from experienced commanders warning more troops would be needed to secure and stabilize Iraq, with Rumsfeld drastically undercutting their estimates; etc...

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« Reply #1640 on: November 06, 2014, 03:00:31 PM »
They have Been Threatening Canada and I Live in Ontario But We Officially for the first Time Air-Strike Attacked them ISIS FUCKS FOR POKING A BEAR MINDING IT'S OWN BERRIE EATING BUSINESS!
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« Reply #1641 on: November 06, 2014, 04:50:18 PM »
Quadz: Thanks. Damn that's pretty long. I'll probably have to check it out later this week.
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« Reply #1642 on: January 07, 2015, 05:57:43 PM »
If you draw a cartoon of Muhammad and you will be killed - http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/07/terrorist-commandos-paris-gunmen-likely-highly-trained-say-experts/

What if someone drew a picture of the terrorist mother - http://www.canstockphoto.com/illustration/ghost.html

These people are really ucked-up
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« Reply #1643 on: January 07, 2015, 07:06:59 PM »
These people are really ucked-up

Your stating it way too politely.
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« Reply #1644 on: January 07, 2015, 11:23:07 PM »
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« Reply #1646 on: January 08, 2015, 04:14:29 AM »
There was this interesting opinion I read for which I found to be worth to ponder.

As I understood, a lot of people always thought that WW3 would be a nuke war. Some thought that it would be a proxy war. However, it may be possible that the vision on what ww3 would be is entirely wrong. Just as some people back then thought that ww2 was similar to ww1. There were some generals that even started to sharpen their swords when ww2 was just starting.

Who knows, I maybe wrong, maybe ww3 had already started. Unlike other major wars, this war is not a war between nations. Its a war with an unconventional enemy.

What are the considerations that one may call a situation a World War? One thing is certain that countries are at war with something but not on one particular state or nation but rather on an ideology and a misguided religious belief. And just like in any war, lives are lost, innocents suffer and people are in fear. But in this war the enemy is unclear. Invisible. A faceless foe.


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« Reply #1647 on: January 08, 2015, 07:08:22 AM »
Meh, this happened in France. Can't say that I'm left with feelings of give-a-shit. The French wanted to be so uppity and disapproving of the US when we responded with military action in the middle east after Sept 11 2001. Take your medicine, froggy. Don't taste good? Yeah, we tried to tell you. Sucks to be you. Now get up, dust yourself off, get back on THIS side of the line, and let's do something together finally. :thumbsup:
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« Reply #1648 on: January 08, 2015, 11:00:55 AM »
Now get up, dust yourself off, get back on THIS side of the line, and let's do something together finally. :thumbsup:

Surprisingly, France was the first country to (publicly) join us in bombing ISIS targets in Iraq last year:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/19/france-has-begun-bombing-isis-entirely-destroying-its-logistics-depot-in-northeastern-iraq/

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« Reply #1649 on: January 08, 2015, 05:27:28 PM »
Hehe, yeah sure, only because they've finally pulled their head out of their ass after realizing just how many active supporters they had living right up under their noses. Like these shitheads in this latest dust-up. The CIA and NSA have known all about these guys for years and took steps to make sure they didn't set foot on American soil without sounding some kind of alarm.
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