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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #1605 on: August 20, 2014, 10:43:07 AM »
It's like Golgo with all these completely butt-fumbled conspiracy theories... with even worse spelling and grammar. ::)

ISIS is NOT some US secretly sponsored group in any way. Never was. Period. Apparently you don't understand the concept of "insurgency". When a foreign military enters a place and starts whooping some ass, it almost always creates the conditions for civilian paramilitary groups to exist. I happened in France when the Nazi's invaded. It happened in the Southern US after the Union forces of the Northern States forced the Confederacy to surrender. It even happened in Cuba once Castro took over. "Insurgency" is why the United States of America exists in the first place. The British colonists in America organized into militias alongside the regular army to participate in the insurrection against the British.

Bottom line, this shit just happens. I realize the US government has done plenty of shady shit in it's day, but honestly, you're reading WAY too far into it. When it comes to warfare, a tactical move like creating some ultra-Islamic insurgent group to fight against and destabilize nations in the middle east... is the DUMBEST fucking idea one could hope to put into play. The object of such moves is to "divide and conquer", whereas the goal of the Islamic State is to "unite and Jihad", and they have given every indication that they are fully capable of doing it. Allowing ISIS to run around completely unchecked in the Middle East and take over Iran, would NOT benefit the US, not at all, not even a little. The longer these assholes run around and claim turf, the greater their numbers become, and the harder it'll be to suppress and destroy them. Especially since once they get to Iran, they'll become a nuclear threat and will also have the ability to fight from the air once they have control of Iran's air force. And the problem at that point would not be how they would threaten US fighter pilots. The US would crush them in air combat in a relatively short period of time. The problem is that ISIS would immediately USE that air force to help them conquer more territory and gain more strength more quickly.

So if you've got these hair-brained ideas that the US is somehow behind ISIS... you can get that shit outta your head right now. It's not true. It's an impossibility.
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« Reply #1606 on: August 20, 2014, 11:32:06 AM »
Part of me actually wants this half-assed group of unemployed shiftless bums to setup their Utopian Islamic Caliphate a bit larger for a bit longer, just so people can get a real idea seared permanently into their brains of what these people intend to force upon the rest of the world.

The fact that so many people in the West value tolerance of culture and religion over treatment of women is appalling to me. There's no doubt we place more value on politics/money/oil/stuff than human rights and human welfare though.
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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #1607 on: August 20, 2014, 12:36:21 PM »
No bones about it, OIL is where it's at when you're a large industrial nation with a large and important economy. Lack of oil and fuel is what allowed the United States to defeat Japan in WW2. Oil is what made Hitler send the last remnants of his best troops down to Hungary when they were desperately needed in Berlin to defend against the Russians who were pushing in from the east and the south. He was kind of forced into that decision though. Nazi Germany was already suffering from oil/fuel shortages, and without oil, even if they were to pull off a miracle and keep the Red Army out of Berlin, they wouldn't have had the fuel for armor and trucks to carry the fight further outside of Berlin. But at the same time... it was a boneheaded move, because by the time the Germans reached the oilfields on the Hungarian border (where they were slaughtered btw), the Russians had already cut them off from reentering Berlin when they pushed in from the south with assloads of tanks and self-propelled guns.

I can't see how anyone who might be averagely read in history would be able to believe that the US would sponsor some Muslim extremist group like ISIS. It would sound like a nice plot for some Hollywood movie where the US and the CIA were the nefarious mustache twiddling villain, but in reality, it makes ZERO sense. The reality of it is that it's nearly impossible to obfuscate your intentions and goals when it comes to warfare. No one is going to send in their military somewhere to possibly be decimated as a mere ruse and misdirection tactic. And no one is going to knowingly create a highly organized and highly motivated enemy that is capable of growing it's strength the way that ISIS does. Again, that makes ZERO sense. The ultimate goal of ISIS, whether they'll admit it or not, is to eventually unify and control the entire Middle East. It makes much more sense for the US to go to war against just Iran or just Iraq or just any one nation rather than allowing some paramilitary group to destabilize them all and then unify their military powers to throw into a fight against the US and the rest of the world. It's pretty simple logic in my mind. I don't understand why others can't grasp it.
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« Reply #1608 on: August 20, 2014, 07:20:41 PM »
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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #1609 on: August 26, 2014, 12:27:55 AM »
Wow. Just plain old fuckin' WOW.

In personal plea, top Hamas leader calls on Obama to stop 'holocaust' in Gaza:
http://news.yahoo.com/in-personal-plea--top-hamas-leader-calls-on-obama-to-stop--holocaust--in-gaza-180315615.html

You went there? You actually went there? God damn. The balls on some people. HUUUUUUUGE. Enormous! MAMMOTH BALLS! These fruity fucks are living in LaLa Land. I can't tell if this is actually how they (Hamas/Gaza) perceive the situation, or if they're just repeating this shit over and over again hoping that if they do it enough, eventually people will believe the line of bullshit they're flinging. :ohlord:

This is kinda why the annoying militant atheists exist in America. Because the last thing they wanna see is some deranged religious-infused policies getting handed out over here by a bunch of Righteous Ronnie's who refuse to live in reality. Which is precisely the problem in the middle east apparently. These dickheads refuse to see reality from any point of view other than from inside the pages of some archaic book of ghost stories and unenlightened ass-backwards philosophy that was written more than 1000 years ago.

It's impossible to achieve world peace when most people are still stubbornly trying to live according to books that were born out of brutal ages drenched in the blood of "nonbelievers". Get the fuck over your religions already, people. There's so many different kinds of people in the world with their own religions and sects and cults and offshoots and yada yada yada. But... YOURS is the one and only TRUE one? Get the fuck over yourself. Nobody needs this shit.
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« Reply #1610 on: August 27, 2014, 01:17:30 AM »
In personal plea, top Hamas leader calls on Obama to stop 'holocaust' in Gaza

Meanwhile,

"Kuwaiti Cleric Tareq Al-Suwaidan to Hamas: Do Not Agree to Ceasefire until They Bow Before Us. We Must Contemplate a Plan to Erase Israel"

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4361.htm

This guy goes on ad nauseam to an applauding crowd (and presumably to his 3.26 million twitter followers) about how Hamas must never cease launching rockets into Israel, how Muslim mothers globally must raise their children from infancy to loathe the Jews, how any Muslim casualties in the service of the destruction of Israel are irrelevant since the Muslim side is certain of Paradise when dying fighting in the service of Allah, how he hopes the continued rockets from Hamas will eventually strike an Israeli nuclear reactor--which he claims to believe would trigger Israel to give up and bow down to them... (Hard to imagine he truly believes that last part literally; more likely he'd be hoping for such an event to trigger a full scale retaliatory escalation of war between Israel and the surrounding Islamic countries...)

Sheer lunacy.

And yet day after day on T3h Internets, an unending parade of apologists continue to opine how none of this could have annnnything to do with The Religion of Peace.

:yuck:

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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #1611 on: August 29, 2014, 12:19:15 PM »
I'd make an "Official North Korea Bashing Thread", but I think any thread with "terrorist" in the title will suffice.

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« Reply #1612 on: August 29, 2014, 04:20:50 PM »
what if ISIS and North Korea would have a slugging contest. Who would win?
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« Reply #1613 on: August 29, 2014, 04:49:21 PM »
Probably North Korea.
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« Reply #1614 on: August 29, 2014, 07:11:49 PM »
North Korea would not go into it with one arm tied behind their back like we do.

North Korea would fill their warheads with pig blood  :evilgrin:
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« Reply #1615 on: August 29, 2014, 08:04:18 PM »
Whats funny is that these so called "FEARLESS and TOUGH" jihadist are not giving a damn about their religious brothers in China which the Chinese Government had been suppressing and massacreing for the longest time.

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« Reply #1616 on: August 29, 2014, 08:37:11 PM »
I think it's more like that China has done a better job suppressing the extremists.
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« Reply #1617 on: August 30, 2014, 12:30:07 AM »
I think it's more like that China has done a better job suppressing the extremists.

Yeah, the extremists... and everyone else that attempts to be critical of the ruling party. Can you say "Tienanmen Square Massacre"? Although I think the official policy in China is strictly to refer to it as the "June 4th Incident". Not the first time shit like that has happened in history though. The Reichstag Fire Decree, Kristallnacht, Night of the Long Knives, ...you get the point.

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« Reply #1618 on: August 30, 2014, 03:58:13 AM »
IMHO, these jihadist only understand one language. They should be dealt with what they understand. No more dialogues. Just shoot, bomb or whatever method to eliminate them fast.
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« Reply #1619 on: August 30, 2014, 08:05:52 AM »
IMHO, these jihadist only understand one language. They should be dealt with what they understand. No more dialogues. Just shoot, bomb or whatever method to eliminate them fast.

The only way to be victorious over an opponent who is willing to die for his cause is to make sure he dies quickly for his cause.

Or as George S. Patton said, make the other dumb bastard die for his cause.
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