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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2007, 05:24:11 PM »
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If nobody disagrees with that conclusion, then I would be interested in seeing both Christian and Muslim groups start making a list of the passages in their holy books that they acknowledge are too extreme to be followed literally.

That's a nice thought, obviously I don't see it happening.
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« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2007, 05:37:19 PM »
ahh, forgot about the whole Canada thing going on here

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maybe this is a rumor, but I heard Canada talked behind closed doors, about legalizing marajuana cigarettes.  Then the US strongarmed them, and they decided it was best not to legalize weed.  If that's the case, I really lose a lot of respect for this nation, and the opinions of the people in power. 

And yeah.. I care about that a lot.  As well as the Iraq war :).  which, hey! thanks for lying to us, oh and great direct link between Al-qaeda and Iraq (the only solid reason for going).  That said, I don't know what's up, sounds like a bad idea to bounce right away, but geez, it's war, try and check you're facts maybe??
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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2007, 05:42:46 PM »
Quadz i will get back to you with that answer in short time, but not here, do you have msn messenger or icq or something like that?? And insense everyone is throwing out these contradictions and would like to hear answers lemme throw one out and see if someone can explain to me their answer, and sorry if i took this from someone on here(might be quadz) but i dont remember a good response to it so ill use it again....There is a scientific law that states matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Now im not going to even go into the questions of how the universe began but i will ask this...if that law is taken as true then how is it that life just simply sprang up out of some cesspool here on planet earth??Clearly matter would have had to have been created out of nothing...that is contradictory correct?
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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #138 on: July 12, 2007, 05:56:44 PM »
Quadz i will get back to you with that answer in short time, but not here, do you have msn messenger or icq or something like that??

I have quadz@tastyspleen.net  ....  or the forums PM.  (No msn/icq, sorry.)


And insense everyone is throwing out these contradictions and would like to hear answers lemme throw one out and see if someone can explain to me their answer, and sorry if i took this from someone on here(might be quadz) but i dont remember a good response to it so ill use it again....There is a scientific law that states matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Now im not going to even go into the questions of how the universe began but i will ask this...if that law is taken as true then how is it that life just simply sprang up out of some cesspool here on planet earth??Clearly matter would have had to have been created out of nothing...that is contradictory correct?

Science isn't allowed to break its own rules in explaining what happened since the big bang.

We still have the question of what triggered the Big Bang and where the singularity came from.

But from a few microseconds after the Big Bang, scientists can show various theories that hold up pretty well to explain all the testable phenomena we can observe since then.

Your question seems to be, if life just sprang out of a primordial cesspool, does that violate Thermodynamics?  And the answer would be no: an arrangement of already existing atoms into a mollecular pattern resembling DNA, does not violate any framework of laws governing physics or chemistry.


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Re: another terrorist attack
« Reply #139 on: July 12, 2007, 06:04:54 PM »
Clearly matter would have had to have been created out of nothing...that is contradictory correct?

actually all matter (and thus all life) came forth from pure energy.
unfortunately, we can't record anything prior to the big bang as anything that happened before then was outside of time, and thus technically outside of the scope of our universe, so no one knows where the energy came from, and we never will.

although technically.. there is no energy, so that question is a bit pointless.
by that I mean the net amount of energy in the universe is 0.

since mass and energy can be used interchangeably (due to e=mc^2) we can say that all energy in the universe can be described in terms of matter.

we know that anti-matter exists.
we also know that matter exists and that it exists in a comparable amount to anti-matter.

unfortunately they cancel each other out by definition and leave us with a net amount of 0 matter.
(or 0 energy)

so.. nothing was created from nothing, and the laws of thermodynamics were not broken.

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« Reply #140 on: July 12, 2007, 06:20:26 PM »
This seems to be evolving into another Ye Religion Thread.
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« Reply #141 on: July 12, 2007, 06:55:45 PM »
and bashing Canada and the USA
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« Reply #142 on: July 13, 2007, 08:45:47 AM »
Ideologically, what is the difference between Osama Bin Laden and Eric Robert Rudolph? Or for that matter, Al-Qaeda/Hezbollah and Army of God/National Liberation Front of Tripura?
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« Reply #143 on: July 13, 2007, 11:10:44 AM »
Look, no1 is denying that just as there are Muslim extremists there are also Christian extremists. But the numbers on both sides arent even close. In ever single organization you while have a few people who are completely off the wall nuts. So then when trying to compare the two the question becomes how many on each side and that is where the muslim extremists far surpass the Christian ones. And if anyone would like to argue that point id love to hear it. So I am kind of tired when people try to group a very very minute amount of so-called Christians who think that killing is the way to go with the rest of the sane minded. Now I'm not saying that muslim extremism is the majority of the faith, but it certainly is alot more of a percentage than Christian faith. I read in the paper the other day of a survey taken of Muslims in America, I believe the age was 18-32, and over 1/4 APPROVED the use of suicide bombings in certain cases....you cannont say the same thing for Christians.
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« Reply #144 on: July 13, 2007, 05:38:10 PM »
Look, no1 is denying that just as there are Muslim extremists there are also Christian extremists. But the numbers on both sides arent even close. In ever single organization you while have a few people who are completely off the wall nuts. So then when trying to compare the two the question becomes how many on each side and that is where the muslim extremists far surpass the Christian ones.

Yes; I tried to address this exact situation in an earlier post in this thread.

Let's assume the following is true:

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« Reply #145 on: July 13, 2007, 06:34:07 PM »
Quote from: jesus
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign
      over them, bring hither, and slay them before me

slay them how? with words, swords? slay who?  Jesus didn't really mean kill someone, the bullshit can go on and on :)
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« Reply #146 on: July 13, 2007, 07:01:23 PM »
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« Reply #147 on: July 13, 2007, 07:18:46 PM »
True programmer quadz, your list started with a 0 instead of a 1
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« Reply #148 on: July 16, 2007, 12:48:48 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: July 16, 2007, 12:50:18 PM »
Why would you be ridiculed?

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