campers

[ĄƦçɧąɳɠҾԼ]

what if the camper(s) camp right in front of a spawn pad,

[HabibGoatAss]

how do i deal with campers, there was one in particular "ScrotumOfLove" that was camping 3 maps in a row, so i just wanted to ask how do i deal with them, and what is tastyspleen gonna do.

[Bleach]

 

[DWxchzrles]

personally i like camper- they are easy frags - use different approach each time

[kuku]

"The first step to defeating the camper is admitting that you are powerless over the camper and that your game has become unmanageable.  You next need to admit that there is a 'Higher power' (I suggest bfg)"


habib, your a funny person.

kuku

[uranus]

my motto used to be "if you camp it, they will spawn"... not so much now though, since i converted to mouse from stick.

i see now why many decently skilled players don't camp... it's BORRRING!! although it's still fun to get in a spawn or "camp" kill now then, just for old times sake!   

seriously... looking at now from the other side, or point of view, and like a few here have stated, it just  adds another dimension to the game. So c'mon, after all, it is just a game folks! or is it? 

 

[vibes]

LMAO Habib !

We definatly have to party sometime !

[hieronymous]

Perhaps it is unclear what camping is.

When the term CAMPER is used, most tend to envision some underskilled player (or disgruntled for whatever reason) standing on or next to a coveted item(usually a weapon) BUT this has definitely changed now that there are not 1000's of new players trying the game out but mostly above average players(that is why they still play this game). Although there have always been skilled campers  Pit leader and init2win come to mind.

Camping has many forms -- do you ever stop moving (you are camping- for what are you waiting for ), are you fragging newly spawned players with the weapon they are going towards , are you retracing your steps to protect or get the same item again(armor)

These players of today are usually well trained (far from being a new player) and usually don't realize that camping is rude (or don't care) and thus are not a sideline attraction to the game but the main focus and can easily win and by that they are effecting both the attitude of the game, the server and how others play(camping breeds camping because that is the only way they can muster frags if there is a big fish camping)

Example -- q2dm1 -- we all know the main five lower skill camp spots--in the rail room, in the rl hole, grenades from the top, grenades down the rl hole, and of course rail in the water--but today any great tdm player uses what is skill and proper in that game and brings it to deathmatch where it IS camping, with their heigthened skill  comes a larger area that they can control --so now they can ---camp the entire outside with the rail and rl, camp the megahealth room, camp the inner ring room --


Lots of great players do this ( and surely no one can cast the first stone ) to which they would reply --anything goes or who takes deathmatch seriously or etc etc ---  but it is less honorable and certainly should not be respected --Do you respect the person camping the tube in lab or the rail on q2dm4?


Almost all of the mutant maps have a power position (mega/red armor/ chain/rail all together) why would you ever leave that area everything you are driving toward is there and certainly the other players will drive there too.
This is definitely a grey subject to which each player acts to what they feel is right. Certainly all the pros use this play to be the great players they are. 

kuku has been a great deathmatch player for years who i have seen go up against campers but did not lower his game to camping to have a higher score( which he could have easily done ) and that is a player who deserves respect and a clean server on which to play.

You can say your ROFL and LOL  but ruining other players fun and driving players away from tastyspleen is not a condonable course of action.   Peace and i know i didn't change anything.

[[BTF]Gator]

how do i deal with campers, there was one in particular "ScrotumOfLove" that was camping 3 maps in a row, so i just wanted to ask how do i deal with them, and what is tastyspleen gonna do.
    ,thanks kuku

First this is what Tasty has already done - Supplied the electronical means for you to kill the campers by supplying a server free of charge 24/7/365 on which you and the camper may incarnate or avatarate or instantiate whatever we do when we play a game.  Their part is done.

Secondly, your part - I suggest a well lobbed grenade with 3 clicks expired on it, or perhaps ever a rail-gun would be your best bet to clear up this "problem" whenever you find it. 

Since we are here discussing this conundrum, I also recommend the following advice I gained after many painful years of analysis, psycohotherapy and the study of Zen Botulism and other related theological concepts.

-  When you get angry at a camper, you are actually angry at your father and want to kill him.  The space occupied by the camper represents your mother, which you wish to possess.  So you need to recognise the oedipal implications of your need to kill the camper.
-  Camping is a sin, but you need to treat it like any other sin "love the camper - hate the camping". 
-  Getting killed by the camper is a lot like the Buddhist wheel or cycle of suffering.  The trick is to step off the wheel and not-suffer because of your "desire" to kill or your avoidance of being killed.
-  The first step to defeating the camper is admitting that you are powerless over the camper and that your game has become unmanageable.  You next need to admit that there is a "higher power" (I suggest bfg) that can help you against the camper.  One of the subsequent steps relates to making amends to all the campers you have harmed in the past and also one step fo helping other campers or victims of camping, there's sort of like a sponsporial role you can play.  There are more steps, but I forget them.

Hahhahahah.  What I want to know is how will Tasty level the playing-field for people like me vs the truly skilled. 

Oh and I also like to camp sometimes.  It is fun.

HAHAHHA.

Later,

Habib

We need a POST OF THE MONTH posted somewhere, and this is it!

[QuakeDuke]

what is tastyspleen gonna do.

Are you suggesting Tastyspleen should do something about a playing tactic??

Well, Art, I don't know about kuku but I am. The tactic I suggest Tastyspleen should do is to mandate everyone one stand still whenever I arrive on a map to make it easier for me to get top frag!! So there!

QD

[QuakeDuke]

Hahhahahah.  What I want to know is how will Tasty level the playing-field for people like me vs the truly skilled.

Me too! Me too! Uh... I didn't know q2 was played in a field.

Oh and I also like to camp sometimes.  It is fun.

I guess I'm gonna have to start camping myself - It looks like I'm gonna be stuck with 24.6 dialup forever.....
You think it would help if I changed my handle? Maybe to something like Sloan or PamperedCamper or something?
Help me out Habib, what's a good camper name? Wheeeeee...!!!

QD

[[BTF]DeathStalker]

OMG QuakeDuke LIVES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FirebirdTN]

My nickels worth:

  As an old time player, but relative newcomer to Tastyspleen, I am actually not sure if I have actually seen real "camping" yet.  I only play on the railz servers, though.

  Someone above mentioned that campers rely on the repeat actions of other players to get their frags.  Well, although I don't think I am a camper, I do that too!

I'm not very good, but have somehow managed to pull off staying being about the middle of the road player when a match ends.  One of my strategies, is to keep moving, and hope like hell I don't get fragged by my opponent.  While I am doing this, I study my oponent to see if they move in any sort of repeatable pattern.  If so, their ass is mine, because I can pretty quickly recognize and anticipate a pattern movement.

So, my strategy kind of depends on the same strategy of a camper.

Although maybe in the truer sence of camping, maybe there are spots where its impossible to frag a camper, and they unfairly rack up frags to undeservingly win a match, but I haven't seen it yet.

-Alan

[[BTF] Reflex]

Sometimes,  after a long run on rails..  I  take a smoke break.
I spawn, and take a step back. Works good on some levels.

Just light a smoke, step back, and watch your pad

Would never do it more than 1 map,  but I would deffinately call this camping


and Duke,  PameredCamper,  great name.  Should join CRU with that name

[Om3ga]

campers is what slow me down on ffa

Sometimes,  after a long run on rails..  I  take a smoke break.
I spawn, and take a step back. Works good on some levels.

Just light a smoke, step back, and watch your pad

Would never do it more than 1 map,  but I would deffinately call this camping


and Duke,  PameredCamper,  great name.  Should join CRU with that name

stfu, gayass hippie fag, fo i get my niggies on you?